Benny the Butcher not happy with how nerds have taken control of the culture

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dj's are the biggest music nerds. you are the one who didn't get the point you naming nerd gate keepers from day one. dj's :laff:

mixing, scratching, blending, knowing all the breaks. super music nerd shyt

embrace being a nerd don't fight it. the more hip hop tries to be the streets the less real it is. how ironic is that?
And the DJ's are outside at events and parties and shows and clubs, DEALING WITH THE STREETS


Not nerdy nikkas in the house dealing with Twitter and IG... Funk Flex and Kay Slay was outside.. Akademiks was NOT
 

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Some dust rap fans in their 30s listen to Griselda? That's what I said lol. Those are usually white dudes, with some black dudes thrown in. The type of black guys who....post on a rap forum. That's not the streets.

The streets are young dudes getting active out there, who often dictate a lot of where general rap culture goes. They do NOT fukk with Griselda on any level.
The STREETS are OUTSIDE... you either in the streets or you not..

Nerds can be in the streets everyday. Outside amongst the thugs... And they still ain't street dudes, and they ain't thugs, and they ain't hard, and they ain't gangsters... But they still outside every night in the streets


Y'all really don't understand shyt about this culture y'all claim to love
 

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Aite let me rephrase. Outside of a few NY dudes, the streets are not fukking with Griselda.
:mjlol:

These dudes don't have any albums or songs that move the needle like that. Streets are playing Youngboy and that shyt predominantly across the country.

i dont evn love griselda but you are definitely undersellin them

aint you the i work for interscope guy?

must be personal
 

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And there you have it.

Dudes really in here revising history saying the 3 safest rappers in hip hop history, Kid N Play, Will Smith and Hammer were street dudes and getting daps co signing that nonsense. Felt like I was in the twilight zone. As someone who was raised in The South Bronx and 145th/7th ave in Harlem, I'm gonna just assume that my version of "street" is totally different from the average squares version.
Nobody said that... I said THEY WAS IN THE STREETS.... not that they was street guys..

Two different terms... My brother was in the street... I was right with him but selling drugs.. We was in the streets.. I was the street guy
 

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Bad example though, because Tragedy is a career criminal and already a felon during Intelligent Hoodlum era. So, as others said, he's still from that element, he was just using his brain. And even War Report era, his music was still smart gangster, as his moniker states "Intelligent Hoodlum." Being from an element but trying to enlighten your peers is still street. Play was a stick-up kid, but still loved to dance and party and did things to escape that other life. The streets at that time were all about doing other things, positive things, to take you out of the poverty mind state.

But the "streets" and the streets Benny is talking about aren't even the same. The streets is simply outside, the voice of the people, and everyone that it's composed of. No matter the era of the time, the music always reflected it, as it is the voice/mind state of what's going on outside. Everyone in the hood isn't a drug dealer scammer robber. The radio hosts, the DJs, the bboys, the MCs, the park/block parties, the neighborhood, the cars are all apart of the culture. This is who moved the culture forward.

Now, what Benny is talking about has always existed, however, it was based on the people - the people of the culture. The nerds were still the magazine writers (Vibe, Source, XXL, Word Up), the VJs (Video Soul, Rap City, MTV Raps), the talk shows (Teen Summit), the radio hosts, but all of these people were from the neighborhood. They just had degrees.

The culture shifted because the people allowed the money to interfere too much. And now what is determined as being the culture is driven by 0s & 1s, and those who control the 0s & 1s; and not the actual people first. What counts as the streets now is that it exists online, because if it doesn't exist there, you pretty much don't exist. That said, that internet geeks that never been outside still make up his fanbase, so he really can't complain.
 

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Bad example though, because Tragedy is a career criminal and already a felon during Intelligent Hoodlum era. So, as others said, he's still from that element, he was just using his brain. And even War Report era, his music was still smart gangster, as his moniker states "Intelligent Hoodlum." Being from an element but trying to enlighten your peers is still street. Play was a stick-up kid, but still loved to dance and party and did things to escape that other life. The streets at that time were all about doing other things, positive things, to take you out of the poverty mind state.

But the "streets" and the streets Benny is talking about aren't even the same. The streets is simply outside, the voice of the people, and everyone that it's composed of. No matter the era of the time, the music always reflected it, as it is the voice/mind state of what's going on outside. Everyone in the hood isn't a drug dealer scammer robber. The radio hosts, the DJs, the bboys, the MCs, the park/block parties, the neighborhood, the cars are all apart of the culture. This is who moved the culture forward.

Now, what Benny is talking about has always existed, however, it was based on the people - the people of the culture. The nerds were still the magazine writers (Vibe, Source, XXL, Word Up), the VJs (Video Soul, Rap City, MTV Raps), the talk shows (Teen Summit), the radio hosts, but all of these people were from the neighborhood. They just had degrees.

The culture shifted because the people allowed the money to interfere too much. And now what is determined as being the culture is driven by 0s & 1s, and those who control the 0s & 1s; and not the actual people first. What counts as the streets now is that it exists online, because if it doesn't exist there, you pretty much don't exist. That said, that internet geeks that never been outside still make up his fanbase, so he really can't complain.


BINGO! Too many people mistakenly think the "streets" or the "hood" = criminals/criminal activity; when in fact, the streets/hood is mainly "regular" people.
 

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What the fukk he’s wearing though? :dead: Just wear regular clothes instead of looking silly like this with these gay pastel colors and ripped jeans.


 

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And the DJ's are outside at events and parties and shows and clubs, DEALING WITH THE STREETS


Not nerdy nikkas in the house dealing with Twitter and IG... Funk Flex and Kay Slay was outside.. Akademiks was NOT
You still can wrap your head around the fact that because they are nerds they are not weak. A lot of you have that weird 80's pocket protector pint Dexter image of what a nerd is. That's such an outdated concept. Kay Slay was hip hop nerd from graffiti to dj'ing. A technically gifted nerd in 2 elements of hip hop. A good writer practices just like a good DJ. Same as a student studies Doesn't mean he wasn't in the street or outside. The point remains Benny is like a lot of you outdated in his views of what nerds are.
 

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You still can wrap your head around the fact that because they are nerds they are not weak. A lot of you have that weird 80's pocket protector pint Dexter image of what a nerd is. That's such an outdated concept. Kay Slay was hip hop nerd from graffiti to dj'ing. A technically gifted nerd in 2 elements of hip hop. A good writer practices just like a good DJ. Same as a student studies Doesn't mean he wasn't in the street or outside. The point remains Benny is like a lot of you outdated in his views of what nerds are.
Nobody said anything you're saying

The man is simply saying these influencers never left the house nor involved themselves in what the fukk real humans was doing outside in black spaces

Why is this so hard to grasp
 

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The biggest irony is that Benny himself is a huge nerd. nerd: noun. 1. a person who is extremely enthusiastic and knowledgeable about a particular subject, especially one of specialist or niche interest.

There's no rapper one earth that can do 5 syllable rhyme scheme for an entire 16 bar verse (1st verse below) that isn't a huge nerd. Wanting to put words and syllables together in rhyme form is inherently some big time nerd shyt. All good rappers are nerds.

 

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BINGO! Too many people mistakenly think the "streets" or the "hood" = criminals/criminal activity; when in fact, the streets/hood is mainly "regular" people.

Like I said earlier, as someone who was raised in The South Bronx and 145th/7th ave in Harlem, I'm gonna just assume that my version of "street" is totally different from the average squares version. I have never ever in my life heard someone refer to "regular" people as "street." This is that twilight zone bullshyt I was referring to that only a square would say.

Yes, "streets" = criminals/criminal activity. That's why Azie said "stay the fukk out the streets" because he's referring to regular people getting involved in the street life when they have no business jumping into that world. Being from the ghetto or the hood does not make you automatically "street." The old lady coming from church who lives in the hood is not "street."
 

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Like I said earlier, as someone who was raised in The South Bronx and 145th/7th ave in Harlem, I'm gonna just assume that my version of "street" is totally different from the average squares version. I have never ever in my life heard someone refer to "regular" people as "street." This is that twilight zone bullshyt I was referring to that only a square would say.

Dude, "the streets" is essentially the same meaning or usage as to when Nuyoricans use the term "El Barrio" (or Mexicans use the term "Varrio") which basically means "neighborhood" or "hood" for short. Somewhere in recent times, some people tried to make "street" the same thing as a "thug" or "gangster" which is false.


Yes, "streets" = criminals/criminal activity. That's why Azie said "stay the fukk out the streets" because he's referring to regular people getting involved in the street life when they have no business jumping into that world.


No, a criminal can be an element of the "streets" or "hood" the same way a criminal can be an element of the suburbs/upper class. Azie just so happens to represent a criminal element of said "streets" so that's what he sees the "streets" as


Being from the ghetto or the hood does not make you automatically "street." The old lady coming from church who lives in the hood is not "street."

That same old church lady you speak of, represents "the hood" or the "streets" if viewed by someone from the suburbs/elite class.
 

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Nobody said anything you're saying

The man is simply saying these influencers never left the house nor involved themselves in what the fukk real humans was doing outside in black spaces

Why is this so hard to grasp
That's a generational issue. The cool dudes are inside the house streaming. Nothing is hard to grasp besides the fact that calling people nerds isn't a diss anymore. Benny is outdated like his viewpoints. Westside Gunn is a huge nerd and he right next to him. And he better at music. Time to stop pretending being street >>> being a nerd. We just had a whole year of watching street certified rap nikkaz snitch and tell. People still stuck on worshipping Street credibility are lost.
 
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