Benny the Butcher not happy with how nerds have taken control of the culture

[boskey]

Like I said earlier, as someone who was raised in The South Bronx and 145th/7th ave in Harlem, I'm gonna just assume that my version of "street" is totally different from the average squares version. I have never ever in my life heard someone refer to "regular" people as "street." This is that twilight zone bullshyt I was referring to that only a square would say.

Yes, "streets" = criminals/criminal activity. That's why Azie said "stay the fukk out the streets" because he's referring to regular people getting involved in the street life when they have no business jumping into that world. Being from the ghetto or the hood does not make you automatically "street." The old lady coming from church who lives in the hood is not "street."

BINGO! Too many people mistakenly think the "streets" or the "hood" = criminals/criminal activity; when in fact, the streets/hood is mainly "regular" people.

I agree with both points made, but I think when Benny talks about "the streets" he is literally talking about the criminal/prison element. That's the most common theme in his music: "If you didn't do it, then you can't really relate". He's a Jay Z baby, he still swears by that outdated "mouthpiece for the hustlers" mantra

 

[Plankton]

Dude, "the streets" is essentially the same meaning or usage as to when Nuyoricans use the term "El Barrio" (or Mexicans use the term "Varrio") which basically means "neighborhood" or "hood" for short. Somewhere in recent times, some people tried to make "street" the same thing as a "thug" or "gangster" which is false.





No, a criminal can be an element of the "streets" or "hood" the same way a criminal can be an element of the suburbs/upper class. Azie just so happens to represent a criminal element of said "streets" so that's what he sees the "streets" as




That same old church lady you speak of, represents "the hood" or the "streets" if viewed by someone from the suburbs/elite class.

Where are you from again? You always avoided answering that question for years. I've said my location twice in this thread and numerous times throughout the years yet no one knows where you were raised. I've watched you speak on my city like a some pompous self appointed expert but you obviously aren't from NYC. So where are you from? Can you finally answer that question? I need to know because I can't take someone raised as a square serious telling me what the definition of "street" is. And if you refuse to tell me where you were raised then your definition of "street" is null and void.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Like I said earlier, as someone who was raised in The South Bronx and 145th/7th ave in Harlem, I'm gonna just assume that my version of "street" is totally different from the average squares version. I have never ever in my life heard someone refer to "regular" people as "street." This is that twilight zone bullshyt I was referring to that only a square would say.

Yes, "streets" = criminals/criminal activity. That's why Azie said "stay the fukk out the streets" because he's referring to regular people getting involved in the street life when they have no business jumping into that world. Being from the ghetto or the hood does not make you automatically "street." The old lady coming from church who lives in the hood is not "street."

Facts.

A lot of people who talk "streets" on here, ain't ever been to actual streets.

We were running around in Mott Haven (Mitchel, Patterson, Millbrook, etc.) in the South Bronx during the peak crack era, and all over Harlem and Uptown, as kids. THAT'S the streets, to us. Dudes on here listen to records and think they know what the streets are. Or that if you're from these areas, that makes you "street". It doesn't work like that. And their posts expose them. So you can see who was really there and who wasn't.

 

[DaHNIC82]

dj's are the biggest music nerds. you are the one who didn't get the point you naming nerd gate keepers from day one. dj's

mixing, scratching, blending, knowing all the breaks. super music nerd shyt

embrace being a nerd don't fight it. the more hip hop tries to be the streets the less real it is. how ironic is that?

DJs weren't no fukking nerds. They were the plugs to the streets and the bridge for the music.

So DJ Kay Slay was a nerd? Kid Capri? Doo wop? Jam master Jay? You comparing those guys to Aldin Ross and Akademiks?

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

breaking out a dictionary to rebuttal a rapper is insane

never change coli

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Meanwhile Beastie Boys who looked like punk rockers were commercially bigger then Rakim and Run DMC. Fresh Prince and Kid n Play were commercially bigger then Rakim. Heavy D went platinum 3 times while Rakim only want platinum once because Heavy D was commercially bigger than Rakim. Fat Boys went platinum before Paid In Full and had a box office successful movie. And though the Fat Boys were from the hood there image was not that of street dudes. They had ( As Bernie Mac would refer it as) that 'fun rap' image. So you bringing up Rakim is irrelevant when commercially bigger artists did not have a street image look confirming the street image was not the dominant image prior to 93.

dude, all of the people you mentioned outside of the Beastie Boys were from the "streets."




I didn't bring up Rakim because of his sales or appeal to "whites", I mentioned him because while he was dropping jewels, he still was being influenced by the so-called "street cats" because both elements existed in the same spaces. The same for KRS and RZA/Wutang



being artistic, intelligent, conscious, and having knowledge of self are things that exist(ed) in the streets/hood along with criminality

You are the one playing dumb knowing damn well that The Message song in 82 portrayed poverty and being in the streets as a goal to move away from not embrace. Hip Hop didn't embrace poverty living and being in the streets till gangster/drug dealer rap took off on a whole new level commercially in 93. Prior to that the street image was not dominant.

Do you actually realize what Melle Mel was doing in real life which was a reflection of his everyday social habits and surroundings?

 

[Starburst]

Is this nikka ever happy about anything? I

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Benny The Washington needs to realized that Grizelda attracts "real hip hop" freckled faced Enyce in 2025 wearing cacs and funny style brehs, of course that majority hang off his nuthairs. Is that a bad thing...heaven's no. Is it funny, possibly.

Does it help you make a good living....yes so why he's bytching ? Dude had more anticipated albums since the second coming and all of them flopped, he forever aggy about pointless shyt and that is enough to kill a casual, and compared to Boldy and em, dude is just washed.

Mans will forever be known to have three dope features and bullshyt albums.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

This is a very hard pill to swallow for most rappers

Reminds me of when Ras Kass was frustrated ages ago, where most of the "Nature of the Threat" was swinging their pale arms all over the place at his shows. Its the breaks sadly, hell dude said it himself back in the days and honestly in these dire times, you need to take what you can get from dweebs to dopefiends:

Make a radio hit - heads criticize it;
Underground classic - nobody buys it:
So, rap is fukked
And everything blowing up sounds redundant
But money talks and bullshyt does 9 flat in the hundred
And goddamn if I don't slam my wallets in danger
So I'm coming out like unborn babies with hangers

 

[FlimFlam]

idk i would be outside from sunup to sundown where in some cases grew to become infamous neighborhoods. But i was playing basketball n chasing around ladies etc. I had to come here for that to become "the streets"

You can pretty much just look at people and catch the tone what kinda shyt they on. everyone "outside " aint peers.

such a concept would have to live in a place like the coli cause thats some insiders club lingo. Street nikkas would reject that notion.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Where are you from again? You always avoided answering that question for years. I've said my location twice in this thread and numerous times throughout the years yet no one knows where you were raised. I've watched you speak on my city like a some pompous self appointed expert but you obviously aren't from NYC. So where are you from? Can you finally answer that question? I need to know because I can't take someone raised as a square serious telling me what the definition of "street" is. And if you refuse to tell me where you were raised then your definition of "street" is null and void.

Dude, your knowledge is limited. I didn't want to go back and forth with you in this thread because I remember flaming you in this thread

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/lord-jamar-demolishes-krs-ones-claim-of-latinos-pioneering-hip-hop.1039474/page-14

....

 

[Plankton]

Cool story bro but that has absolutely nothing to do with the question I asked. And you purposely avoiding answering is very telling.


Miss me with that " I didn't want to go back and forth with you in this thread" nonsense because you took the time to search and post videos for me, so just saying where you were born and raised should be much easier. So just say it.



Here..... I'll ask the question again.


Where are you from again? You always avoided answering that question for years. I've said my location twice in this thread and numerous times throughout the years yet no one knows where you were raised. Can you finally answer that question? I need to know because I can't take someone raised as a square serious telling me what the definition of "street" is. And if you refuse to tell me where you were raised then your definition of "street" is null and void.

 

[Plankton]

Pay close attention people

Twice I asked @IllmaticDelta where was he born and raised because he's in here going hard portraying someone who is qualified to speak on what is "street."


and instead of answering he posts this

Dude, your knowledge is limited. I didn't want to go back and forth with you in this thread because I remember flaming you in this thread

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/lord-jamar-demolishes-krs-ones-claim-of-latinos-pioneering-hip-hop.1039474/page-14

....

Now keep in mind, this was a distraction to avoid answering. And he says clear as day I didn't want to go back and forth with you in this thread

But then what does he do after I ask him a second time to tell us where he was born and raised?...He ups the old thread he linked as if he wants to go back and forth with me in that thread yet he just said he doesn't want to go back and forth with me in this thread , all because I asked where was he born and raised.




Who the fukk does this?

Why can't he just answer the question? LOL. I've never in my life seen someone so avoiding of just saying where he was born and raised. That is not normal and he's been avoiding answering for years. Dude is obviously not from any hood. I wouldn't be surprised if he was born and raised in Europe somewhere.

 

[maxamusa]

thread turned brazy.....


a 50 year old @Plankton pulling @IllmaticDelta 's card on some west coast WHERE U FROM bold big lettered paragraph shyt on a message board....in some oxymoronic paradox of benny talking about internet brehs took over....can't make this shyt up

 

[Hood Critic]

thread turned brazy.....


a 50 year old @Plankton pulling @IllmaticDelta 's card on some west coast WHERE U FROM bold big lettered paragraph shyt on a message board....in some oxymoronic paradox of benny talking about internet brehs took over....can't make this shyt up

Only thing left is for him to ask him where his granny stay.