Bernie Sanders: The Democratic Capitalist?

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Bernie Sanders As Democratic Capitalist

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Senator Bernie Sanders, 2016 Democratic presidential hopeful, speaks during a campaign rally at the Florida State Fairgrounds Expo Hall in Tampa, Florida., Photographer: Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg.



Not surprisingly, there is no more important issue to me than the economy. Not only are there obvious benefits to growth in terms of material comforts, but it is also conducive to the creation of a society in which people are tolerant, generous, and cooperative. When folks struggle, they are prone to feeling angry and suspicious. Those experiencing joblessness become demoralized as they try to deal with the loss of control over their lives and their inability to provide for loved ones. This is hardly an environment in which it is easy to resolve political and social conflict. Things are contentious enough as it is.

This isn’t just speculation on my part. There is a long-standing scientific literature studying the non-monetary cost of unemployment. To cite just one recent paper:

For the unemployed, the nonpecuniary costs of unemployment are several times as large as those resulting from lower incomes, while the indirect effect at the population level is 15 times as large. For those who are still employed, a one percentage point increase in local unemployment has an impact on well-being roughly equivalent to a 4% decline in household income (Helliwell, John F., and Haifang Huang. “New measures of the costs of unemployment: Evidence from the subjective well being of 3.3 million Americans.” Economic Inquiry 52.4 (2014).

What that says in very scholarly language is that there is an extremely large negative impact above and beyond the loss of income not only to those without jobs, but even those who are still employed. Chronic unemployment and underemployment breed resentment and depression.


On the other hand, if we create jobs and generate decent wages, then we have a situation in which a) the scale of political and social problems will have been reduced and b) those that remain can be addressed in a more stable and fair-minded environment. Economic security encourages goodwill and political cooperation. Pre-WWII Germany, Italy, and Japan, each of which suffered much more than the US during the Great Depression, offer sobering contrasts.

It is within that context that I evaluate presidential candidates. I wouldn’t say that I’m a one-issue voter, but I definitely worry about economic policies first. To be honest, however, there is typically very little difference from one to another, even across party lines. That said, this year, we seem to have an outlier, someone who claims to be something radical: a “democratic socialist.” I am speaking, of course, of Bernie Sanders.

Examining both his statements and the background of his advisers, I would gauge that those in the Sanders campaign believe that 1) the economy struggles to generate sufficient demand to hire everyone who is willing to work, 2) there are built-in tendencies toward periodic crisis, and 3) the capitalist economy needs to avoid accumulations of power to operate properly. I explained the first two in some detail in a previous post where I described those scholars who support Sanders as Business-Cycle Economists and others as Establishment Economists (Evaluating Bernie Sanders’ Evaluators). To summarize, those in the latter group believe that interest rates automatically adjust to make sure that demand rises until we reach full employment. Meanwhile, Business-Cycle Economists not only reject the idea that such adjustments occur, but argue that households and businesses don’t really care all that much about interest rates anyway in the midst of an economic slump.

I did not, however, say much about the third, which is in some ways even more fundamental and representative of Sanders’ general economic and political philosophy. The basic idea is this. If individuals or small groups are able to accumulate power, both the democratic and capitalist processes are short circuited. Consider this. Capitalism properly understood is an anti-business system. Adam Smith, the Father of Capitalism, wrote:

People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.

In other words, you can’t trust business people any further than you can throw them. They are greedy (not that this differentiates them from anyone else) and they aren’t stupid. They know that they can make a lot more money if they can collude with other business owners or otherwise trick or take advantage of their customers. They will therefore try to do so (or at least some will). Constantly. And remember, this is from one of capitalism’s most ardent supporters!


Smith thus wants a method of preventing firms from having the power to succeed in these endeavors. His answer: competition. Make sure there are enough businesses in a particular industry to not only make it difficult for them to collude (it’s harder to get 100 people to agree on something than two), but also to ensure that entrepreneurs have to assume that if they don’t make the best deal possible for their customers, someone else will. Then they are forced to please their clientele if they want to get rich. This is the Invisible Hand: entrepreneurs acting in their own self interest inadvertently promote the self interest of others. But only if there is sufficient competition.

So what, one might say, we already have a free-market system. The problem is that free markets and competitive markets are not the same thing and there are many industries in which significant accumulations of power have already take place. An increasing number of studies have pointed to this disturbing trend, traceable in part to the government’s reluctance to enforce antitrust laws or fund those agencies charged with monitoring industry concentration (Cornered: The New Monopoly Capitalism and the Economics of Destruction, Are US Industries Becoming More Concentrated?, Too much of a good thing). Ironically, part of the justification for this hands-off policy has been that to do otherwise interferes with the free market! That this distorted view often comes directly from those benefitting from the decreased competition is not surprising. While in public they are sounding the trumpet call for capitalism, in private they are hoping to cripple the Invisible Hand.

This appears to be a key issue for the Sanders campaign. He has said repeatedly that too big to fail is too big to exist (Too Big To Fail). And while he has been most vocal in this regard with respect to the financial sector, Sanders seems to also believe that this is a key problem in sectors like pharmaceuticals (Fighting to Lower Prescription Drug Prices), internet providers (Bernie Sanders Asks FCC to Investigate Cable and Broadband Prices), and the media (Bernie Sanders on why Big Media Shouldn’t Get Bigger). At least on the surface, Sanders’ policies appear to be closely in line with what was most important to Adam Smith!

Of course, what someone says and what they do aren’t necessarily the same thing. It is for that reason that the University of Chicago’s George J. Stigler Center created a capture index to show the source of contributions to each of the presidential hopefuls (Is Bernie Sanders the Most Pro-Market Candidate?). The basic idea is that individuals and groups donate to the candidate that they think will most benefit them. Thus, if someone is getting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry, that is a better indicator of their likely policy choices than their position papers. Or, as Professor Guy Rolnik of the University of Chicago observes, “As an economist, I tend to believe in what we call ‘revealed preferences.’ Donations from industries are a better measure of their interest than the candidates promises and rhetoric.”

Here are the results of that research:

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The comparison among the candidates is striking. Rolnik concludes,

…the rules of the game are determined by the sheer power of the vested interests. Energy, agriculture, healthcare, finance, insurance, defense—there is a reason why they spend billions of dollars on lobbying at the federal, state, and congress levels. They are the people influencing the rules of the game and shaping the discourse and narrative in these industries…If we want to move into a more competitive market system, we should support the political revolution of Bernie Sanders.

That a University of Chicago economist should write a blog post suggesting that the “democratic socialist” is the most pro-market candidate is…I’m not quite sure what word to use here. Bizarre? Ironic? Shocking? Unexpected, at the very least. But there you have it.


Concentration and, therefore, the accumulation of power has not been limited to business firms, however. Household income, too, is ending up in fewer and fewer hands. In a market, it’s not one person one vote, it’s one dollar one vote. This means that one of the consequences of this transformation has been that the decisions regarding what is to be produced and in what quantities is being taken out of the hands of the average consumer, where supporters of capitalism intended it to be (economists call this ideal situation “consumer sovereignty”).

While Sanders is not unique among the candidates in lamenting the erosion of the middle class (all of them now appear to concede that this is an issue), it nevertheless occupies a key place in his platform. Sanders’ issues page singles out, for example, Income And Wealth Inequality, Getting Big Money Out of Politics and Restoring Democracy, Creating Decent Paying Jobs, andA Living Wage. And consistent with the theory behind the Stigler Center’scapture index, the beneficiaries of these policies–Main Street rather than Wall Street–also seem to be those from whom Sanders receives the bulk of his donations.


And so in summary, one can characterize Sanders’ economic policies as being focused on generating demand and therefore jobs; guarding against the crises that are systemic in market capitalism; and reversing the trend of monopolization in America’s industries and concentrations of wealth. Is that what he means by democratic socialism? I guess it must be since it’s consistent with both his policy statements and the Stigler Center’s capture index. But to be honest, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. The modifier “democratic” is fair enough as he promises to break up concentrations of power and ensure that the people are restored as the real decision makers. The rest of his platform, however, seems much more capitalistic than socialistic. To be fair, there are some issues where he is recommending a stronger role for government. That said, Adam Smith, too, thought there were functions of society that made more sense left to the public sector. But on the big questions, it is difficult to see where the Father of Capitalism would have taken strong issue with the democratic socialist from Vermont.

Perhaps Bernie Sanders should start calling himself a democratic capitalist instead.


I do agree with the article, Bernie is far more aligned with being a democratic capitalist than a democratic socialist. :manny:
 

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That's what I want actually. I am a capitalist that doesn't believe in corporate welfare. I believe there could be an invisible helping hand to help businesses stay afloat for the economy, but not be aphids to the treasury. I also believe that if we help corporations, it is not to help them deregulate at the expense of the people who have to buy their products or work their jobs. I'm for limited intervention, but the people also deserve it if that is to keep the economy afloat.

If your product costs X, then your workers
(unless it is a very high end product or part and based on number of workers) should eventually be able to afford it. I want business slightly separate from the overall economy. They should pay their fair percentage in taxes, with very few subsidies, and any subsidies should counteract any tax breaks you may get. You can't keep having it all.

That way, I can hire people to produce light rails and maintain our highways that are things that both help the economy in the long run, as people can migrate and get to jobs, while also having a set of contraction workers (and the people that feed and house them) flush with cash to help the local businesses. The help to these local businesses helps everyone who supplies them, and the money keeps moving upwards in a concentrated fashion.

I'm not into giving a lot of free shyt, outside of health care to keep my workers productive and mentally stable. Education too, as far as vocational skills, and some degrees for positions that are needed.
 

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That's what I want actually. I am a capitalist that doesn't believe in corporate welfare. I believe there could be an invisible helping hand to help businesses stay afloat for the economy, but not be aphids to the treasury. I also believe that if we help corporations, it is not to help them deregulate at the expense of the people who have to buy their products or work their jobs. I'm for limited intervention, but the people also deserve it if that is to keep the economy afloat.

If your product costs X, then your workers
(unless it is a very high end product or part and based on number of workers) should eventually be able to afford it. I want business slightly separate from the overall economy. They should pay their fair percentage in taxes, with very few subsidies, and any subsidies should counteract any tax breaks you may get. You can't keep having it all.

That way, I can hire people to produce light rails and maintain our highways that are things that both help the economy in the long run, as people can migrate and get to jobs, while also having a set of contraction workers (and the people that feed and house them) flush with cash to help the local businesses. The help to these local businesses helps everyone who supplies them, and the money keeps moving upwards in a concentrated fashion.

I'm not into giving a lot of free shyt, outside of health care to keep my workers productive and mentally stable. Education too, as far as vocational skills, and some degrees for positions that are needed.
Agreed :ehh: I just hate when greed comes into play. I'm not against corporations, but if you are too big to fail, then you shouldn't be in business.
 

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Sanders believes in legitimate free market capitalism that doesn't exploit one group for the sake of the other.

I wonder his opinion of wage slavery
 

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Sanders believes in legitimate free market capitalism that doesn't exploit one group for the sake of the other.

I wonder his opinion of wage slavery
I will agree with your point, hopefully, without the threat of being sandbagged for letting my enthusiasm look like dikkriding. Capitalism is still the greatest system in the world. It's just that America has polluted it with a lot of corruption and fast tracking the already wealthy, at the expense of the working people. Capitalism gets people off of their asses to compete and work, but there must be either jobs or entrepreneurship at the end of the rainbow of the American dream for it to perpetuate, and this is where corporate welfare keeps failing.

Politicians under the current system use the threat of wage slavery to secure votes, promising change, when all they want to do is bathe in the money from that corruption, with the added premium of conviction. As Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Al Franken, Claire McCaskill, Sherrod Brown, Ann Klobuchar, Barbara Boxer and a few other fake progressives will tell you; faux conviction adds a higher sell out price.

Bernie's not the first to challenge this system, but the masses are tried of the Rebel Alliance becoming double agents. The days of corporate welfare must end, so we won't continue having boom/bust cycles, where the busts are bigger and more lasting that the booms. QE has floated this next boom, and led the sellouts to believe that Wall Street can float the people who keep getting crashed on. It could, but less people believe in ot, and only they are really profiting from it, because every crash makes more people broke, jobless, and worried.

A refocus on pure(ish) capitalism, with slower growth following Keynesian principles, is advised.
 

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Capitalism is the only system I've found that has the right incentives for personal and professional growth, innovation, and perpetually booming economies. It is limitless, but needs to start looking to the stars soon, as the world isn't big enough for it. Every other system relies on the growth of the people to start moving. Hybrid systems are welcome, but nothing can push man like making more money and competition.

Rigging the game is what gets me fukked up about it. Rigging is not inevitable either. Rigging relies on the same flaws of man that cripples Socialism or Communism...getting something for producing less. There's a happy medium, for our current situation, after mass corruption, somewhere; but capitalism will always be in the front.
 
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