Bernie Stans....do ya'll seriously think he'll win the general?

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A Bernie nomination would drive some democratic voters to vote republican, republican voters would never vote for bernie
 

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lol. Once again. Presidential campaigns do not equate the day to day political structure of either parties. When the senate meets, they do not get together, sit around a table, and ask Hillary and or Ted Cruz to lead them.




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you're saying obvious dumb shyt.

Im saying that Cruz is loved by the GOP establishment.

period.
 
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I don't think you realize how unpopular Bernies ideas are across the spectrum.

And personally don't I don't think some of his ideas are good for the country.

The presidency isn't made to be an activist position nor will he ever achieve what amounts to social change through law.

Actually the opposite is true. Sanders policy views are popular across the board.
 
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A Bernie nomination would drive some democratic voters to vote republican, republican voters would never vote for bernie

Once again, absolutely no evidence of this. There are more democrats who would vote for Trump if Hillary is the nominee.

Sanders right now has the independents flocking to vote for him. Independents hate Hillary.
 

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Actually the opposite is true. Sanders policy views are popular across the board.
They're not.

Anyone who says this has no concept of the average man on the street.

That "liberal bubble" is so self-defeating :mjlol:

I see it all the time. Y'all swear ya'll know better than the rest of the world and the ivory tower of higher education tries to reinforce that the rest of the world agrees with you and if they don't, that they "should"

nah man...liberal ideas are NOT popular across the board. Especially economically.

The world has seen the most liberal societies STRUGGINGL in the last 5 year ys.
 
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you're saying obvious dumb shyt.

Im saying that Cruz is loved by the GOP establishment.

period.

You'd still be wrong. You don't even understand the difference between a candidate to executive office and the legislative function of a political party :russ:

No fukking shyt the base loves Cruz. They love Trump too. The base hates the establishment, why do you think Eric Cantor got btfo by an underfunded tea-party-er?

Holy hell some of you are ignorant as fukk, look at the Scalia thread. People don't realize that McConnell and the GOP can block any Obama nomination to the court, or just outright refuse to bring it to the floor.
 

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You'd still be wrong. You don't even understand the difference between a candidate to executive office and the legislative function of a political party :russ:

No fukking shyt the base loves Cruz. They love Trump too. The base hates the establishment, why do you think Eric Cantor got btfo by an underfunded tea-party-er?

Holy hell some of you are ignorant as fukk, look at the Scalia thread. People don't realize that McConnell and the GOP can block any Obama nomination to the court, or just outright refuse to bring it to the floor.
Bruh, who ever said I called that into question??????????????????????

I'm talking about the fukking election.

Man get off my dikk.

I simply said Cruz is loved.

What the fukk is so controversial here??????
 

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They're not.

Anyone who says this has no concept of the average man on the street.

That "liberal bubble" is so self-defeating :mjlol:

I see it all the time. Y'all swear ya'll know better than the rest of the world and the ivory tower of higher education tries to reinforce that the rest of the world agrees with you and if they don't, that they "should"

nah man...liberal ideas are NOT popular across the board. Especially economically.

The world has seen the most liberal societies STRUGGINGL in the last 5 year ys.


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I've worked two campaigns, first for my friend's dad running for district judge as a democrat in the 518, then switched over and volunteered for Astorino (who also was a POS) if only due to my extreme dislike of Cuomo. I know the city is a liberal echo chamber if you are familiar at all with NYS or NYC politics, but holy shyt do you guys actually interact with anyone elsewhere in the country? The vast majority of white people are really uppity and ready to vote an R candidate into office. The majority of Americans oppose Obamacare, oppose Obama's foreign policy, his approval has been underwater/lame duck status for a long time now. The "silent majority" of white ppl/eg the republican base are running in droves to Trump/Cruz b/c they are pissed about the 2012 turnover when they took the majority and then didn't fight Obama on anything. There are a lot more energized voters on the right than the left, and the majority on the right is more extreme than the majority on the left.

Just look at the DNC itself: it's broke:

DNC craves tax dollars for convention

And it's two candidates are a terrible/incompetent career politician with trust issues whose likely going to have to drop out anyway seeing as she is facing indictment for breaking the law, and a 75 yr old jewish guy who represents the whitest electorate of America and is left of the democratic base. NH and Iowa do not represent the dem base at all. The DNC is already actively trying to sabotage Sanders with its delegate shenanigans, biased debate setups, debates only on obscure nights and with softball pro-Hillary questions because even they think he won't win. They are probably begging Biden to run behind closed doors.


Bruh, who ever said I called that into question??????????????????????

I'm talking about the fukking election.

Man get off my dikk.

I simply said Cruz is loved.

What the fukk is so controversial here??????
LIS breh, I've actually had to work under the framework of both the parties. The party and its voters aren't synonyms. You said "Cruz represents the GOP", which in a logical sense obviously isn't true in terms of how the party functions. He's not even in first place among the republican electorate, nor does he have much power at all in the legislature. The majority of them are still pissed at him over the shutdown.
 

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:bryan::bryan:

I've worked two campaigns,.

*sigh*

I don't give a flying fukk.


first for my friend's dad running for district judge as a democrat in the 518, then switched over and volunteered for Astorino (who also was a POS) if only due to my extreme dislike of Cuomo. I know the city is a liberal echo chamber if you are familiar at all with NYS or NYC politics, but holy shyt do you guys actually interact with anyone elsewhere in the country? The vast majority of white people are really uppity and ready to vote an R candidate into office. The majority of Americans oppose Obamacare, oppose Obama's foreign policy, his approval has been underwater/lame duck status for a long time now. The "silent majority" of white ppl/eg the republican base are running in droves to Trump/Cruz b/c they are pissed about the 2012 turnover when they took the majority and then didn't fight Obama on anything. There are a lot more energized voters on the right than the left, and the majority on the right is more extreme than the majority on the left.

Just look at the DNC itself: it's broke:

DNC craves tax dollars for convention

And it's two candidates are a terrible/incompetent career politician with trust issues whose likely going to have to drop out anyway seeing as she is facing indictment for breaking the law, and a 75 yr old jewish guy who represents the whitest electorate of America and is left of the democratic base. NH and Iowa do not represent the dem base at all. The DNC is already actively trying to sabotage Sanders with its delegate shenanigans, biased debate setups, debates only on obscure nights and with softball pro-Hillary questions because even they think he won't win. They are probably begging Biden to run behind closed doors.

More empty shyt that everyone knows, and doesn't address my point.
LIS breh, I've actually had to work under the framework of both the parties. The party and its voters aren't synonyms. You said "Cruz represents the GOP", which in a logical sense obviously isn't true in terms of how the party functions. He's not even in first place among the republican electorate, nor does he have much power at all in the legislature. The majority of them are still pissed at him over the shutdown

Yo

Are you just trying to flex right now? To prove that you know something?

All i've said is that Cruz represents a majority of republicans, I don't give fukk WHY they do, but they do.

And this isn't even about power, cause power doesn't determine who runs for POTUS out of the Congress.

Yo. Just stop replying to me. You tried to stunt with your weakass door knocking skills talking about "i campaigned" as if i'm supposed to be impressed.

Don't waste all that energy sharing shyt we dont know already. :camby:
 

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All i've said is that Cruz represents a majority of republicans

And this isn't even about power, cause power doesn't determine who runs for POTUS out of the Congress.
No you didn't. You said Rubio and Cruz "lead" the GOP, which I just tried to point out wasn't true, then got whiny with passive. aggressive. female. posturing. and backtracked :whoa: with quote trees claiming you were talking about the majority of republicans, even though the "majority" of republicans and the GOP/RNC aren't even the same thing. You also think presidential candidates control the parties :russ: as if in 2012 suddenly GOP leadership gave up what they were doing and yielded the reigns to Mitt Romney.


Yo. Just stop replying to me.
Stop posting retarded shyt and I won't be inclined to respond to it. :troll::troll::troll:
 
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They're not.

Anyone who says this has no concept of the average man on the street.

That "liberal bubble" is so self-defeating :mjlol:

I see it all the time. Y'all swear ya'll know better than the rest of the world and the ivory tower of higher education tries to reinforce that the rest of the world agrees with you and if they don't, that they "should"

nah man...liberal ideas are NOT popular across the board. Especially economically.

The world has seen the most liberal societies STRUGGINGL in the last 5 year ys.

My Generation ( Millenials ) love Bernie. Young Black people also love his ideas.
 

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No you didn't. You said Rubio and Cruz "lead" the GOP, which I just tried to point out wasn't true, then got whiny with passive. aggressive. female. posturing. and backtracked :whoa: with quote trees claiming you were talking about the majority of republicans, even though the "majority" of republicans and the GOP/RNC aren't even the same thing. You also think presidential candidates control the parties :russ: as if in 2012 suddenly GOP leadership gave up what they were doing and yielded the reigns to Mitt Romney.



Stop posting retarded shyt and I won't be inclined to respond to it. :troll::troll::troll:
You fukking idiot.

I NEVER said that.

I'm talking about their favorability as candidates.

Stop being such a aspy-spectrum literalist.
 
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