Besides Virgina and NC, Dems should give up trying to win statewide elections in South

GnauzBookOfRhymes

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I do actually. Your thinking is why Republicans run the government.


breh, the difference between winning/losing in those races are rounding errors. that's how close it was. no one would have ever imagined that you'd get within a few points of a dem winning elections in Texas for instance. the votes are there. it's just a matter of turnout. ignoring a state diminishes your possibilities for the future. that money went not just to ads, but building and REBUILDING local networks, political organizations etc, training volunteers for future races etc. many states in the south are seeing HUGE influxes of new residents from places like NY, CA, IL. These are majority Dem voters. Dems won congressional races in TX. All of that money spent by Beto campaign etc, filters down to these local races.

but you don't see that - which is why i said you don't understand politics. it's ironic that you bring up the republicans running the government, but are apparently ignorant of how they managed to get there. they prioritized spending billions on building up their local organizations, took over local/state level governments, thru which they were able to take over the election processes. that by itself delivered more than enough votes in places like Georgia (where something like 1.5 million people were taken off the voter rolls in a span of 2 years).

now, i completely agree that even MORE needs to be invested in the other states, but it can't be to the exclusion of places like TX/GA/AZ and anywhere else there is a Dem that can win - no matter how local/inconsequential the race appears. you keep people engaged/energized by fighting EVERYWHERE.
 

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You do realize elections happen in sequence, right? That engaging people in the political process at the local level helps build infrastructure that bears fruit in future elections? Don't be so myopic breh. We're all disappointed by the outcome of those races, but they were very, very, very close. Future candidates are in the making in those states. Many of them built relationships. We may not see the payoff in 2 years or 4 years, but best believe it makes a difference.

And to breh's point above, sometimes the best defense is a good offense.

He does not realize that. That's the problem.
 

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You both make great points, we should continue investing in congressional districts in these Southern states that Dems can win, but I'm talking statewide elections. IMO we need to solidify the Midwest before we focus on flipping the South, which I believe is an emotional and expensive pipe dream at least for another 10 years.
 

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The last 2 dem candidates lost by 1 point in Florida in the governor race Gillium makes the third
so you concede the state to republicans because of that? no you keep on trying to figure out how to get better turnout. obama managed to win florida twice so the demographics were there for him, so it doesn't require decades of change.

also, jon tester from montana has won 3 consecutive elections with 49% of the vote. should republicans stop spending money trying to defeat him?
 
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South Carolina hadn't voted for a Docratic candidate since 1976 the last 10 Presidential Elections :mindblown:. Every state matters if hick ass Iowa voted for Obama anything is possible

Bro every state doesn't matter. :gucci: We can beat Trump and win back the Senate without the Deep South. We just need the Midwest and the rest of the reliable blue states.
 

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Dems won state seats in the south pretty much everywhere. :umad:
 
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