Yeah to me that Meat Grinder verse is dope, but I keep telling myself not to get too caught up on what Madlib did too with the beat. As far as MC to DJ/producer chemistry goes--thats WHY this is one of the GOAT albums. Madlib and Doom were COMPLETELY on the same page. I doubt they ever even disagreed on one aspect of this back in 2004. fukkin 13 years ago holy fukkin shyt.