Best Rap Single of the 90s Tournament: 1992

[DANJ!]

I was on the west coast in the Bay Area when Come Clean dropped and it didn't get radio day play out here...but just seeing it on the video shows it was apparent it was a big deal on the east coast. I loved it and copped the single.
"Regional", as far as I'm concerned, doesn't apply to 90s east coast artists that were getting video play.
Captain Save a Ho was regional b/c I never saw that video on Rap City and I can't imagine it was getting played on daytime radio on the East or by the mix shows.

Right! Even in that respect, that's another thing that I think gets overlooked. That was still a time when lots of music wasn't per se 'regional', but certain songs hit harder in certain areas than others... you had your mega-hit records that got play pretty much everywhere, and the rest were just all over the place. And that wasn't just in hip-hop, but also in R&B, before every radio playlist started being the same toward the mid/late-90s. Same way West Coast dudes can say "ah they ain't showin' love to 4-Tay out in New York", I'm sure a dude from NY could say "they ain't playin' no Jeru" in Cali... that's what makes it funny when only only one side of the country is accused of "bias".

 

[mobbinfms]

Right! Even in that respect, that's another thing that I think gets overlooked. That was still a time when lots of music wasn't per se 'regional', but certain songs hit harder in certain areas than others... you had your mega-hit records that got play pretty much everywhere, and the rest were just all over the place. And that wasn't just in hip-hop, but also in R&B, before every radio playlist started being the same toward the mid/late-90s. Same way West Coast dudes can say "ah they ain't showin' love to 4-Tay out in New York", I'm sure a dude from NY could say "they ain't playin' no Jeru" in Cali... that's what makes it funny when only only one side of the country is accused of "bias".

The video shows equalized everything. I'm sure by 95 you were seeing the video for Sprinkle Me for example.
Even in 94 you probably saw a write up on E-40 in the Source. So the magazines helped to level the playing field too.
Radio was really the only "regional" aspect of rap.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

You always say "I already know that", but you post like you don't, so...
.

its because youre always jumping the gun tryna argue with me about some chit that I'm not even talking about. and youre doing it again in this post.

I gave you a pass this time around because I see how my post was confusing, but you still in here tryna stir the pot.

i see what youre tryna do tho. youre a sneaky ass poster. that's why i don't really rock wit you like that, despite our common interests.

Sometimes, shyt has nothin' to do with coastal bias or any of that conspiracy theory stuff people always do when they don't see every single demographic there is being catered to. If YOU don't think Come Clean was a top 8 song of '93, cool... but there's probably others who do... even more than those who think some shyt like Baby Got Back is a top 8 song of 92, lol. I've never heard ANYONE say that, it's a track people remember and might have fun and laugh about, but I've seen no one in real life or online or anywhere say some shyt like "yeah, and can't forget about Baby Got Back!" when discussing this era of hip-hop. I definitely remember when Come Clean dropped and was a street-level hit that even got radio play- this really happened. Not Rump Shaker or Jump radio play, but it did break radio. Some of y'all are obsessed with the coastal shyt tho', breh. I always compare it to how white people are super-sensitive about "reverse racism" and will literally find ANY opportunity to "point it out", no matter how far-fetched.

i never said "baby got back" was top anything. FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, all I was saying is that there should be more options, especially if youre gonna take up spots on personal favorite dark-horse picks.
AND FOR THE RECORD, theres definitely people in here that would've voted for "baby got back" as there were people calling it a top 5 GOAT single in the other thread that was supposed to be a setup for this one. but i guess their votes don't count. meanwhile, theres songs in this poll that nobody mentioned at all. THATS BIAS. CLEAR AS DAY. and i don't even care like that, cuz i already said my last words in here, but I'm not gonna sit back while you try to make me look crazy.

and you don't know what i think about "come clean". that could be my favorite song for all you know. i never even gave my personal opinion on the song. that's the whole point of my argument. YALL ARE THE ONES boosting your personal favorites. NOT ME. theres no legitimate argument you can make for that to be a consensus top 8 single in '93.

i already know that it was a street-level east coast hit. again, youre not telling me anything that i dont already know. we prolly got the song before you down in b'more. hip-hop is bigger than just that tho.

I'm from philly, so the whole "reverse-racism" comparison doesn't make sense being directed at me. save that rhetoric for the southerners and west coast posters that you try to lie to. coastal bias was HEAVY in the '90s and it still exists today, regarding '90s topics.

Right! Even in that respect, that's another thing that I think gets overlooked. That was still a time when lots of music wasn't per se 'regional', but certain songs hit harder in certain areas than others... you had your mega-hit records that got play pretty much everywhere, and the rest were just all over the place. And that wasn't just in hip-hop, but also in R&B, before every radio playlist started being the same toward the mid/late-90s. Same way West Coast dudes can say "ah they ain't showin' love to 4-Tay out in New York", I'm sure a dude from NY could say "they ain't playin' no Jeru" in Cali... that's what makes it funny when only only one side of the country is accused of "bias".

its bias in this instance when you do a tournament on an international message board and include regional east coast hits, while omitting nationally regarded classics from other regions, let alone their regional stuff.

again, its not my tournament, and i was done here until you pulled me back in with this nonsense.

i mean, if the idea was for this to be east coast-centric, that's cool but don't try to mask it as something else. just let it be known from the door.​

I was on the west coast in the Bay Area when Come Clean dropped and it didn't get radio day play out here...but just seeing it on the video shows it was apparent it was a big deal on the east coast. I loved it and copped the single.
"Regional", as far as I'm concerned, doesn't apply to 90s east coast artists that were getting video play.
Captain Save a Ho was regional b/c I never saw that video on Rap City and I can't imagine it was getting played on daytime radio on the East or by the mix shows.

most of the videos on rap city were regional.
if its not poppin with the public outside of its coast, its regional.
if it doesn't make it out of its city/state, its local.

i guess "captain save a ho" was underground or something. i didn't see that video until this decade.​

 

[DANJ!]

its because youre always jumping the gun tryna argue with me about some chit that I'm not even talking about. and youre doing it again in this post.

I gave you a pass this time around because I see how my post was confusing, but you still in here tryna stir the pot.

i see what youre tryna do tho. youre a sneaky ass poster. that's why i don't really rock wit you like that, despite our common interests.


i never said "baby got back" was top anything. FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, all I was saying is that there should be more options, especially if youre gonna take up spots on personal favorite dark-horse picks.
AND FOR THE RECORD, theres definitely people in here that would've voted for "baby got back" as there were people calling it a top 5 GOAT single in the other thread that was supposed to be a setup for this one. but i guess their votes don't count. meanwhile, theres songs in this poll that nobody mentioned at all. THATS BIAS. CLEAR AS DAY. and i don't even care like that, cuz i already said my last words in here, but I'm not gonna sit back while you try to make me look crazy.

and you don't know what i think about "come clean". that could be my favorite song for all you know. i never even gave my personal opinion on the song. that's the whole point of my argument. YALL ARE THE ONES boosting your personal favorites. NOT ME. theres no legitimate argument you can make for that to be a consensus top 8 single in '93.

i already know that it was a street-level east coast hit. again, youre not telling me anything that i dont already know. we prolly got the song before you down in b'more. hip-hop is bigger than just that tho.

I'm from philly, so the whole "reverse-racism" comparison doesn't make sense being directed at me. save that rhetoric for the southerners and west coast posters that you try to lie to. coastal bias was HEAVY in the '90s and it still exists today, regarding '90s topics.

Stopppppppp!

What you want me to say, breh- everybody doesn't have a soft spot for the cornier aspects of early-'90s rap. Nothin' sneaky about that, everything ain't a lowkey plot, man. Gotta relaaax, it's a debate. You were a casual at the time, no sweat... but everybody wasn't. I think these things are leaning more towards both groups, whereas you feel it should cater to the casuals, which of course would leave songs like "93 Til" and "Come Clean" out, which is kinda absurd for the people who were really plugged in during that time period.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Stopppppppp!

What you want me to say, breh- everybody doesn't have a soft spot for the cornier aspects of early-'90s rap. Nothin' sneaky about that, everything ain't a lowkey plot, man. Gotta relaaax, it's a debate. You were a casual at the time, no sweat... but everybody wasn't. I think these things are leaning more towards both groups, whereas you feel it should cater to the casuals.

youre trying to ignore the whole point of my post and trying to deflect by painting me as some sort of casual fan freedom fighter, as if you know what i voted for. that's cool. i know how to cut-n-paste. AGAIN, there was a thread that was supposed to setup this poll.
hopefully, this is my last post in here, cuz i really don't care about this chit. but you in here tryna play somebody.

like i said in the previous post:
i never said "baby got back" was top anything. FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, all I was saying is that there should be more options, especially if youre gonna take up spots on personal favorite dark-horse picks.
AND FOR THE RECORD, theres definitely people in here that would've voted for "baby got back" as there were people calling it a top 5 GOAT single in the other thread that was supposed to be a setup for this one. but i guess their votes don't count. meanwhile, theres songs in this poll that nobody mentioned at all. THATS BIAS. CLEAR AS DAY. and i don't even care like that, cuz i already said my last words in here, but I'm not gonna sit back while you try to make me look crazy.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Another east coast bias thread,with a weak list. #corny
Lmao at halftime being on the list

 

[No Homo]

my bad... anywayz if T.R.O.Y. doesn't win this imma just give up

yup

 

[Zero]

I guess when '93 gets here you gonna lobby for Shoop...

Yall killin this nikka