Best Wrestler Alive Tourney 1st Round --- Kenny Omega vs. Samoa Joe

Cast your vote for the best wrestler alive using the following metrics

Ring work (10)
Mic work/promos (10)
Personality/gimmicks (10)
Overall rating (10)
Number of matches you like from each person

The poll closes after 7 days and if there's a tie the poll extends for an additional 24 hours

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Kenny Omega



Championships and accomplishments

4 Front Wrestling
4FW Junior Heavyweight Championship (1 time)​

All Elite Wrestling
AEW World Tag Team Championship (1 time, Current) with Adam Page

All Japan Pro Wrestling
AJPW World Junior Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

Asistencia Asesoría y Administración
AAA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time, Current)

Canadian Wrestling's Elite
CWE Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Danny Duggan
CWE Tag Team Championship Tournament (2010) – with Danny Duggan

Canadian Wrestling Federation
CWF Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

CBS Sports
Match of the Year (2018) – vs. Kazuchika Okada at NJPW Dominion 6.9

Dramatic Dream Team
DDT Extreme Division Championship (1 time)
DDT KO-D 6-Man Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with Gota Ihashi and Kota Ibushi (1), and Daisuke Sasaki and Kota Ibushi (1)
DDT KO-D Openweight Championship (1 time)
DDT KO-D Tag Team Championship (3 times) – with Kota Ibushi (2) and Michael Nakazawa (1)
Nihonkai Six Man Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Mr. #6 and Riho
King of DDT (2012)
Best Match Award (2012) vs. Kota Ibushi on August 18

Japan Indy Grand Prix
Best Bout Award (2008) vs. Kota Ibushi on August 06
Best Bout Award (2012) vs. Kota Ibushi on August 18
Best Bout Award (2014) with Kota Ibushi vs.Konosuke Takeshyta and Tetsuya Endo on September 28

Jersey All Pro Wrestling
JAPW Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
JAPW Light Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

Main Stream Wrestling
Canadian Unified Junior Heavyweight Championship (3 times)

National Wrestling Alliance
NWA Canadian X Championship (1 time)

New Japan Pro Wrestling
IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Kota Ibushi
NEVER Openweight Six Man Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with Matt Jackson and Nick Jackson
IWGP Intercontinental Championship (1 time)
G1 Climax (2016)
IWGP United States Championship (1 time)
IWGP Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
New Japan Pro-Wrestling Best Bout (2016) vs. Tetsuya Naito on August 13
New Japan Pro-Wrestling Best Bout (2017) vs. Kazuchika Okada on June 11
New Japan Pro-Wrestling MVP (2017)
CEO Tag Team Championship (1 time, current) - with Kota Ibushi

Nikkan Sports
Match of the Year Award (2016) vs. Tetsuya Naito on August 13
Match of the Year Award (2017) vs. Kazuchika Okada on January 4
Match of the Year Award (2018) vs. Kazuchika Okada on June 9
Best Tag Team Award (2010) with Kota Ibushi

Premier Championship Wrestling
PCW Heavyweight Championship (4 times)
PCW Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with Rawskillz (1) and Chris Stevens (1)
Premier Cup (2005, 2007)
Best Finishing Move of the Year (2009) Hadouken
Best Finishing Move of the Year (2010–2011) Croyt's Wrath
Best Mic Skills (2009–2011)[104]
Best News of the Year (2009) Omega captures IWGP gold
Best News of the Year (2010) Omega Becomes Hottest Indy Sensation in the World
Feud of the Year (2008) vs. Mike Angels
Feud of the Year (2010) with The Experience vs. Antonio Scorpio Jr.
Feud of the Year (2011) with The Experience vs. Will Damon
Funniest Moment of the Year (2008–2009) Omega's Invisible Props
Funniest Moment of the Year (2011) Omega Forces Chad Tatum to Suck Rope
Maneuver of the Year (2011) Super Croyt's Wrath with Chris Stevens
Match of the Year (2002) vs. Mentallo
Match of the Year (2003) vs. Robby Royce
Match of the Year (2005) vs. Rawskillz
Match of the Year (2006) vs. A.J. Styles
Match of the Year (2008) vs. Mike Angels
Match of the Year (2010) vs. Davey Richards
Match of the Year (2011) vs. Antonio Scorpio Jr.
Most Likely to Make it in 2009
Most Popular Wrestler of the Year (2003, 2006–2011)
Most Shocking Moment of the Year (2005) Omega signs WWE contract
Most Shocking Moment of the Year (2006) Omega returns from WWE to challenge A.J. Styles
Tag Team of the Year (2011) – with Chris Stevens
Wrestler of the Year (2003, 2007–2011)

Pro Wrestling Guerrilla
PWG World Championship (1 time)
Battle of Los Angeles (2009)

Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI ranked him #1 of the top 500 singles wrestlers in the PWI 500 in 2018
Feud of The Year (2017) vs. Kazuchika Okada
Match of The Year (2017) vs. Kazuchika Okada at Wrestle Kingdom 11
Match of The Year (2018) vs. Kazuchika Okada at Dominion 6.9

Ring of Honor
Feud of the Year (2018) – vs. Cody

SoCal Uncensored
Match of The Year (2017) vs. Tomohiro Ishii (NJPW, July 2)
Match of The Year (2018) with Kota Ibushi vs. The Young Bucks (NJPW, March 25)

Sports Illustrated
Wrestler of the Year (2017)

Tokyo Sports
Best Bout Award (2010) with Kota Ibushi vs. Prince Devitt and Ryusuke Taguchi (NJPW, October 11)
Best Bout Award (2017) vs. Kazuchika Okada (NJPW, January 4)
Best Bout Award (2018) vs. Kazuchika Okada (NJPW, June 9)
Technique Award (2016)

Weekly Pro Wrestling
Best Bout Award (2010) with Kota Ibushi vs. Prince Devitt and Ryusuke Taguchi (NJPW, October 11)
Best Bout Award (2016) vs. Tetsuya Naito (NJPW, August 13)
Best Bout Award (2017) vs. Kazuchika Okada (NJPW, January 4)
Best Foreigner Award (2016, 2017, 2018)
Best Tag Team Award (2010) with Kota Ibushi

Wrestling Observer Newsletter
5 Star Match (2016) vs. Tetsuya Naito on August 13
6 Star Match (2017) vs. Kazuchika Okada on January 4th
6 1/4 Star Match (2017) vs. Kazuchika Okada on June 11
6 Star Match (2017) vs. Kazuchika Okada on August 12
5 3/4 Star Match (2017) vs. Tetsuya Naito on August 13
5 Star Match (2018) vs. Chris Jericho on January 4
5 Star Match (2018) with Kota Ibushi vs. The Young Bucks on March 25
7 Star Match (2018) vs. Kazuchika Okada on June 9
5 Star Match (2018) vs. Tetsuya Naito on July 15
5 Star Match (2018) vs. Hirooki Goto on July 19
5 1/2 Star Match (2018) vs. Tomohiro Ishii on August 4
5 1/2 Star Match (2018) vs. Kota Ibushi on August 11
5 Star Match (2018) with Kota Ibushi vs. Kazuchika Okada and Tomohiro Ishii on September 30
5 Star Match (2018) with Kota Ibushi vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi and Will Ospreay on December 15
5 3/4 Star Match (2019) vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi on January 4
Best Wrestling Maneuver (2016, 2017, 2018) One-Winged Angel
Feud of the Year (2017) vs. Kazuchika Okada
Match of the Year (2017) vs. Kazuchika Okada on January 4
Match of the Year (2018) vs. Kazuchika Okada on June 9
Most Outstanding Wrestler of the Year (2018)
Japanese MVP of the Year (2018)
Wrestler of the Year (2018)

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Samoa Joe



Championships and accomplishments

Ballpark Brawl
Natural Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

Extreme Wrestling Federation
EWF Xtreme 8 Tournament 2006

Independent Wrestling Association Mid-South
Revolution Strong Style Tournament 2004

NXT
NXT Championship (2 times)

Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI ranked him # 4 of the 500 best singles wrestlers in the PWI 500 in 2006
PWI Feud of the Year (2007) vs. Kurt Angle
PWI Most Popular Wrestler of the Year (2006)

Pro Wrestling ZERO1
NWA Intercontinental Tag Team Championship (1 time; reign not recognized by ZERO1) - with Keiji Sakoda

Pure Wrestling Association
PWA Pure Wrestling Championship (1 time)

Ring of Honor
ROH World Championship (1 time)
ROH Pure Championship (1 time)

Total Nonstop Action Wrestling
TNA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
TNA World Tag Team Championship (2 times) 1 solo and 1 with Magnus
TNA X Division Championship (5 times)
TNA Television Championship (1 time)
King of the Mountain 2008
Super X Cup winner 2005
TNA Turkey Bowl 2007
TNA X Division Championship Tournament (2014)
TNA Triple Crown Champion (1 time)

Twin Wrestling Entertainment
TWE Heavyweight Champion (1 time)

Ultimate Pro Wrestling
UPW Heavyweight Champion (1 time)
UPW No Hold Barred Champion (2 times)

United Independent Wrestling Alliance
UIWA Tag Team Champion - (2 times)

Wrestling Observer Newsletter
5 Star Match 2004 vs. CM Punk on October 16
5 Star Match 2005 vs. A.J. Styles and Christopher Daniels at Unbreakable 2005 on September 11
5 Star Match 2005 vs. Kenta Kobashi at Joe vs. Kobashi on October 1
WON Best Brawler (2005, 2006)
WON Match of the Year 2005 vs. Kenta Kobashi at Joe vs. Kobashi on October 1
WON Most Outstanding Wrestler 2005

World Wrestling Entertainment
WWE United States Championship (2 times)

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Fuk Joe

 

It comes down to which you value more in the end: Kenny's wrestling (outside of the US) vs. Joe's promo and aesthetic.

 

This a tough one

 

fukk you OP on some real shyt

 

you know how Cokeboy's motto is it ain't supposed to be good?

well my motto is it ain't supposed to be easy

 

Samoa Joe.

Better body of main event work. Considerable gap in mic work/presentation/promos (though Devil's Sky is a GREAT theme). Can have a 5-star match without a NJPW talent but I do not know if Joe could get something watchable out of a 9-year old girl.

Samoan Submission Machine.

However, Omega is a better wrestler NOW than Joe is. All-time... Joe.

 

Samoa Joe. Outside of the hot streak he had with Okada his NJPW work is vastly overrated and he can't cut a promo to save his life.

 

Joe helped get me into both ROH and TNA, and had plenty of classics in each, but he also has been all banged up and not to the level he once was for over a decade, even though promo wise I think now he’s better than ever.

Kenny is similar in that I was already following NJPW by the time his main event run popped off, but he did make me follow them closer than I had been, and I wouldn’t be watching AEW if not in part because of him. He’s not operating at the same level now that he was then, but I think I’m gonna roll with him based off that run at the top of NJPW and how fun it was.

 

It’s the cleaner for me dog

 

Close matchup but I went with Kenny. Both are worthy and have potential. Joe deserved a better WWE run with more championships than he's gotten.

 

Sorry, I like Omega but he's too animated. I wish he had Joe's moveset but same charisma.

 

Samoa Joe the complete package, Omega is a nerd who wrestles good, cant cut a promo for shyt, lost all his swag when he left NJPW

 

Going with Joe. Not saying he ain't good but I still don't undertand the Kenny Omega hype.

 

You say this as if Omega is far and away a better wrestler than Joe Omega is obviously a better wrestler in the present day, due to Joe clearly being out of his prime, but complete body of work, Joe is better, and never needed 45 minute matches with 72 signatures and finishers to do it.