CreepyMcCreeperson
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Why do I have a feeling deep down he’s excited about this.
Beto O’Rourke descended from slave owners
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Why do I have a feeling deep down he’s excited about this.
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Why do I have a feeling deep down he’s excited about this.
That makes him just like the great presidents of old.
This is just his camp trying to get out in front of this story before it’s used against him, politics 101
Little does he know, we think all white peoples families owned slaves
Little does he know, we think all white peoples families owned slaves
Eddie Brock
All Star
Only thing that would make me consider voting for this cac is if he’s pro reparations which I know he is not so fukk him 
CreepyMcCreeperson
Veteran
This is just his camp trying to get out in front of this story before it’s used against him, politics 101
Little does he know, we think all white peoples families owned slaves
I don’t, because I know the white elites back then tricked poor whites into fighting to maintain a system that kept them poor. Why hire a white person in the south, when you can own a slave?
Whites tend not to consider things like that when fighting the “heritage, not hate” fight.
Feeling superior trumped economic anxiety.
GoAggieGo.
getting blitzed.
I’d bet that many white politicians, no matter party affiliations, were descendants of slave owners.
Like @Booker T Garvey said, this is more than likely him just trying to get out in front of all this. Question is, does he know what it means and what is he going to do about it?
Like @Booker T Garvey said, this is more than likely him just trying to get out in front of all this. Question is, does he know what it means and what is he going to do about it?
Jhoon
Spontaneous Mishaps and Hijinks
Beto talks a lot and long about many things. Please don’t give him an opportunity to ramble on.
SleezyBigSlim
Banned
fukk Beto. His people knocked on my door to ask for support. I asked them what is he doing for the black community. Silence...
Unless you’re descendants are Quakers
that's looked at as a "racist" question now....seriously. if you are black and not inclusive of LGBT and latino's, you're called a racist now
Dorian Breh
Veteran
Amy is his wife? If you look into his father in law, that's certainly not a surprise...
Dorian Breh
Veteran
I don't really be retroactively forgiving people and shyt, they were adults making those decisions. It's not like 100% of cacs were fooled, some new better and worked as partisans.
I don't forgive cacs today who are ignorant and blame immigrants/blacks for their economic woes rather than their cac bosses outsourcing the jobs so I'm not sticking up for civil war cacs either.
The last thing I would like to note is that you are incorrect in your analysis of the economics.
This might sound a little mjpls but I'm just gonna use neutral language to show how you can argue this because I think it's important to demonstrate that slavery was never a good economic system for anyone, including slave owners, the utility that the slave states got out of slavery was not economic it was for the sense of superiority.
Since industrialization, slavery has always been an inferior economic system.
Wage slavery systems in place in New York and the UK provided labor at significantly lower cost. In traditional slavery your costs are equal to the cost to keep the person alive and able to do the job.
However with wage economics you can pay your laborers based on the market. And back then, as now, that meant you could pay employees less than the amount they would need to survive, which is less than you would have to spend if that person was your slave.
Add to the fact that industrialized labor generally required some semblance of literacy, which you as an slaveowner do not want literate slaves, and the fact is that forced labor contracts (slavery) were an inferior economic model since the invention of the Power Loom.
Excuse the rant but it's dangerous to be ignorant on this matter in my opinion. Slavery has no economic value to any post industrial society even to the oligarchs at the top of the chain.
SuavePrince
All Star
He's an idiot... Yes, that is all I have to say.
CreepyMcCreeperson
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If you purchase a male and female slave, and they produce children, you own their children, and that doesn’t even count the children as a result of slave rape. Considering the slaves had to build their own quarters, and got scraps for food, they weren’t that expensive to maintain, especially considering the amount of work they put in over a lifetime, in addition to the profit from selling them.
The white overseers and workers weren’t being paid a decent wage, which is why they stayed in those positions in the first place. The plantation masters simply tricked them into not challenging them post Bacon’s Rebellion, because they needed them to not feel any connection and empathy with black people.
So no, from a completely logical perspective after calculating figures, it wasn’t economically reasonable to keep slaves. But it’s not like they didn’t try to enslave other groups, it just didn’t work out because we had no allies here.
You capture a Native American, and the tribe rolls up on you. And like I said, Bacon’s Rebellion pretty much sealed the fate of black people becoming the slaves.
Do you have some data on this? I don't believe I've ever heard this argument considering our current economic models are somewhat derived from methods they used during slavery and the crops provided (cotton, tobacco) fueled the industrial age.