Better Artists/MC's Than Kanye West

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Did u just say color is irrelevant in hip hop??? :mindblown:

The genre founded on black culture is a genre in which color is irrelevant?? :mindblown:

O lawd again u just exposed yourself for the non black fool u are

Understand something here

Hip hop is a culture and genre created by blacks for blacks
If ur not black ur opinion means absollute sht when it comes to our music

Its like a cac trying to be a voice in merengue

Ur not black so u thinking u can even speak on our music is laughable in and of itself..because again our music isnt for u...its for us

Sure u can listen to it..but because u are not black ur opinion on our music will never hold as much weight as a black man's because hip hop is ours not yours

And no matter how many times u try to tell urself otherwise it will never be otherwise.
Hip hop is for blacks, made by blacks and lives by blacks
U not being black destroys any credibility u think u have in our music

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im mexican but i know my place.
but, kanye is better than pac
mexicans get mad at me when i tell em that tho
 

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Dumb, dumb motherfukker lol.

Pretty much all the real HipHoppas and the pioneers and legends agree Hip Hop is not racially restrictive you idiot. Of course it is a black culture, but it is where you are judged upon your skill and content of your character not solely race. You are EXTREMELY ignorant about Hip Hop, you have NO credibility whatsoever to talk about it...

Are you legitimately saying you know more about Hip Hop than Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa and KRS-One? And you have authority over them? Is this your view point?



Eleventh Principle

The hip-hop community exists as an international culture of consciousness that provides all races, tribes, religions and styles of people a foundation for the communication of their best ideas and works. Hip Hop Kulture is united as one multi-skilled, multi-cultural, multi-faith, multi-racial people committed to the establishment and the development of peace.

Twelfth Principle
Hip Hop Kulture does not intentionally or voluntarily participate in any form of hate, deceit, prejudice or theft at any time. At no time shall Hip Hop Kulture engage in any violent war within itself. Those who intentionally violate the principles of this Declaration of Peace or intentionally reject its advice, forfeit by their own actions the protections set forth herein

You are a very ignorant and foolish child, who doesn't understand Hip Hop, you are just attracted to feminine rappers because it's a way you can lust after males under the guise of music. Hence why you love skirt wearing Kanye, Young Thug who wears skirts and calls men his hubbies and Drake who you call Papi. Everything about you is extremely see through.

You should learn about Hip Hop before you even contemplate trying to talk or debate with me...


Are u gon disagree with Lord Jamar and the great Minister Farrakhan about the role of the white man in the lives of blacks and how it transfers to hip hop, while ignoring how much reverence The great minister Farrakhan gets from hip hop legends across the board



The great minister saying we need to kill dese cacs :ohlawd:

O but are u gon tell me that dnt mean sht

Dnt kid urself homie

This hip hop sht is black and black it shall remain
 

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Are u gon disagree with Lord Jamar and the great Minister Farrakhan about the role of the white man in the lives of blacks and how it transfers to hip hop, while ignoring how much reverence The great minister Farrakhan gets from hip hop legends across the board



The great minister saying we need to kill dese cacs :ohlawd:

O but are u gon tell me that dnt mean sht

Dnt kid urself homie

This hip hop sht is black and black it shall remain


Lmao, you are an idiot, Lord Jamar has no authority over Bam, Kool Herc, KRS-One and so on. Best believe that. And if you know about Farrahkhan, which you don't seem to, he says any white person who is righteous you have no right to call him a devil, and you judge upon the content of character, going deeper he said Elijah's philosophy from Master Fard was a psychological tool to balance the mentalities of people with low self esteem and inferiority complex's. You don't know what you are talking about, one can highlight the racial crimes, injustices, discrimination and so on without being racist yourself. You don't know Hip Hop like that, or any depth about what you speak about. Racist devils should be dealt with, but YOU are a racist devil in yourself, Farrahkhan recognizes their can be devil people of all races.

First of all, let me tell you that the music (beats) that makes up hip-hop, comes from different nationalities and races, especially from black people, and if you think I am a brother who don`t know what he is talking about, just check out many of the music, beats, grooves and sounds that many of your rappers use to make their records or rap over. Hip-hop music in general is colorless and not racist. - Afrika Bambaataa

It comes from many categories in music, for example: Hip-hop music is made up from other forms of music like funk, soul, rhythm & blues, jazz, rock heavy metal, salsa, soca (calypso), TV shows, kiddie shows, horror movies, techno, pop, disco, african, arabic, reggae -etc. . . . and if you use any records from these categories, you will see that the music is made by people from different races or nationalities from all over the planet - Afrika Bambaataa

Everyone needs to check up on their own roots and culture and seek the real truths on life on this so-called planet Earth. Knowledge, wisdom, and understanding, facts and truths about black, brown, red, yellow and white people and not that brainwash white supremacy shyt that white people in power have taught all over the world and to their own people of the so called planet Earth. - Afrika Bambaataa

But ultimately everything you are saying is a deflection tactic to try distract from the fact there are many better MC's and artists than Kanye, it's pure desperation because you KNOW you don't wanna talk about skill and music.
 

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Lmao, you are an idiot, Lord Jamar has no authority over Bam, Kool Herc, KRS-One and so on. Best believe that. And if you know about Farrahkhan, which you don't seem to, he says any white person who is righteous you have no right to call him a devil, and you judge upon the content of character, going deeper he said Elijah's philosophy from Master Fard was a psychological tool to balance the mentalities of people with low self esteem and inferiority complex's. You don't know what you are talking about, one can highlight the racial crimes, injustices, discrimination and so on without being racist yourself. You don't know Hip Hop like that, or any depth about what you speak about. Racist devils should be dealt with, but YOU are a racist devil in yourself, Farrahkhan recognizes their can be devil people of all races.

First of all, let me tell you that the music (beats) that makes up hip-hop, comes from different nationalities and races, especially from black people, and if you think I am a brother who don`t know what he is talking about, just check out many of the music, beats, grooves and sounds that many of your rappers use to make their records or rap over. Hip-hop music in general is colorless and not racist. - Afrika Bambaataa

It comes from many categories in music, for example: Hip-hop music is made up from other forms of music like funk, soul, rhythm & blues, jazz, rock heavy metal, salsa, soca (calypso), TV shows, kiddie shows, horror movies, techno, pop, disco, african, arabic, reggae -etc. . . . and if you use any records from these categories, you will see that the music is made by people from different races or nationalities from all over the planet - Afrika Bambaataa

Everyone needs to check up on their own roots and culture and seek the real truths on life on this so-called planet Earth. Knowledge, wisdom, and understanding, facts and truths about black, brown, red, yellow and white people and not that brainwash white supremacy shyt that white people in power have taught all over the world and to their own people of the so called planet Earth. - Afrika Bambaataa

But ultimately everything you are saying is a deflection tactic to try distract from the fact there are many better MC's and artists than Kanye, it's pure desperation because you KNOW you don't wanna talk about skill and music.
First off
Blacks cant be racist

Second of all
Nothingu said negates the fact that hip hop is a genre and culture made for black people
So if its made for black people
Blacks should have more of an authority on what counts in our culture than cacs

Nothing u said negates this

Third of all :sas2:

What are the elements that Kanye lacks in his lyrics compared to the other rappers u listed? :sas2:
 

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First off
Blacks cant be racist

Second of all
Nothingu said negates the fact that hip hop is a genre and culture made for black people
So if its made for black people
Blacks should have more of an authority on what counts in our culture than cacs

Nothing u said negates this

Third of all :sas2:

What are the elements that Kanye lacks in his lyrics compared to the other rappers u listed? :sas2:

Anybody can be racist, anything else is a fallacy and copout. Racism is discrimination, blacks can't be systematically racist in the U.S but these are two different things. Everything I said is facts, how are YOU going to tell the people that pioneered and created Hip Hop about THEIR culture? It's theirs far more than it is yours. They make the rules. Many pioneers contributed to the Hip Hop Declaration Of Peace, have you even read it? Do you practise it? Certainly not. And knowledge and character defines a person, not their race. There are devils and righteous among every race, this is the nature of human beings. There is historic and systematic oppression of black people throughout U.S and many countries/the world infact and one of Hip Hop's goals is to fight for JUSTICE and EQUALITY. Now your assignment for the day is to research those terms and come to a better understanding of shyt before you even attempt to engage with someone on a drastically and dramatically higher knowledge and intellectual level than yourself.

How is technique not an element? How is flow I mentioned not an element of rapping? Are you serious? Or just COMPLETELY ignorant to EVERYTHING regarding Hip Hop?.
 

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true.
im mexican but i know my place.
but, kanye is better than pac
mexicans get mad at me when i tell em that tho
In what regards is kanye better than pac? lyrically? overall? I really havent listened to too much Kanye since Graduation, but I cant see him coming close to Pacs soul :usure:
 

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Quality, potency, depth, technique, really it's a long answer because his lyrics lack a lot. Even compared to a Jay Z, if you take Jay Z lyrics from Reasonable Doubt they will surpass every album Kanye has done on that basis. You can do this with NUMEROUS rappers projects, that's why he's lacking lyrical ability.
@The Ruler 09

This was ur answer

To which i said..
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Those are not elements..
those are terms used to determine how u feel about how an artists uses the elements of lyricism..not actual elements


Its not a long answer its a simple question.

What elements is Kanye lacking in his lyrics when compared to other rappers
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And yes those are not elements...are u slow?

How is quality an element of lyrics u dumbfukk?

That and the other 3 terms u randomly blurted out are merely subjective gauges to how u feel about the elements the artist uses and how he uses em

Try again u ilogical foolish dumbfukk? Or do u not know how to answer questions objectively clown?
 

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@The Ruler 09

This was ur answer

To which i said..
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Those are not elements..
those are terms used to determine how u feel about how an artists uses the elements of lyricism..not actual elements


Its not a long answer its a simple question.

What elements is Kanye lacking in his lyrics when compared to other rappers
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And yes those are not elements...are u slow?

How is quality an element of lyrics u dumbfukk?

That and the other 3 terms u randomly blurted out are merely subjective gauges to how u feel about the elements the artist uses and how he uses em

Try again u ilogical foolish dumbfukk? Or do u not know how to answer questions objectively clown?

Lol you just want to argue and argue, because you have NO substance...

Element Definition
  1. 1.
    an essential or characteristic part of
You just said flow isn't a part of MC'in or Hip Hop. Exposed even more...
 

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Lol you just want to argue and argue, because you have NO substance...

Element Definition
  1. 1.
    an essential or characteristic part of
You just said flow isn't a part of MC'in or Hip Hop. Exposed even more...
Nikka u didnt even say flow in ur post...are u fcking slow u dumb nikka :mindblown:

What in the hell are u talking about :mindblown:

And how can a rapper lack flow?

When ur rapping ur flowing its like saying a rapper lacks lyrics

to which the question then will be

What elements is ____ rapper lacking in his flow when compared to other rappers?
 

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Nikka u didnt even say flow in ur post...are u fcking slow u dumb nikka :mindblown:

What in the hell are u talking about :mindblown:

And how can a rapper lack flow?

When ur rapping ur flowing its like saying a rapper lacks lyrics

to which the question then will be

What elements is ____ rapper lacking in his flow when compared to other rappers?

Idiot, go back and read the thread, I DID mention flow. fukking bytch ass liar lol.
 
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