Better finisher: Prime Kyrie Irving vs Prime Tony Parker

[010101]

uncle drew aka. da big jelly
low key started a wave got cats putting all types of language on the ball
slick sweet jelly rolls off the glass look better than anything

tp was effective but not as stylish manu had more sauce to be honest
p.s. young flash had the acrobatic finish patented for real

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[42 Monks]

Say what now?

Parker was hitting 37% on total jumpers in 2002/2003
Parker was hitting 34% on total jumpers in 2003/2004
Parker was hitting 36% on total jumpers in 2004/2005
Parker was hitting 40% on total jumpers in 2005/2006

Parker was hitting 36% on midrange jumpers (308 attempts) in 2002/2003
Parker was hitting 36% on midrange jumpers (302 attempts) in 2003/2004
Parker was hitting 40% on midrange jumpers (345 attempts) in 2004/2005
Parker was hitting 41% on midrange jumpers in (417 attempts) 2005/2006 - on par with a prime Melo

Don't even start with that

You know damn well that a TP jumpshot was a win for any team defending San Antonio

 

[VBM]

 

[ISO]

gp was an old man at that point

GP wasn't flabby until after the Lakers

 

[Kinguno]

Tony the god

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Don't even start with that

You know damn well that a TP jumpshot was a win for any team defending San Antonio

Don't even start with the facts?

Your memory and the reality of his jump shot are two completely different things.

 

[DIMES]

Tony never used his left

 

[DIMES]

Besides magic Parker is the greatest finishing pg I've ever seen he knew every angle and had every floater/runner in the book he was crazy efficient

Mr.me no left

 

[ManBearPig]

Kyrie

 

[42 Monks]

Don't even start with the facts?

Your memory and the reality of his jump shot are two completely different things.

facts in a vacuum

when you worried about Timmy on the release and all the shooters waiting on the 2nd pass, TP taking a jumpshot is and always has been a win when dealing with a Spurs possession

and you over here comparing it to other guys getting whole sets run and shotclocks aired out for them

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

facts in a vacuum

The problem with this is, they actually prove that he had a jumpshot (better than average for a starting PG over most of his career), and was efficient on high volume MD attempts - especially from both elbows. You can't shoot 400+, 16ft+ shots within the arc at 40% and not have a jumpshot. Don't confuse his lack of 3-pt shooting for not being able to shoot, at all. His inside game was his bread and butter, no one can argue that, but his jump shot was a lot better than you're giving him credit for.

 

[42 Monks]

The problem with this is, they actually prove that he had a jumpshot (better than average for a starting PG over most of his career), and was efficient on high volume MD attempts - especially from both elbows. You can't shoot 400+, 16ft+ shots within the arc at 40% and not have a jumpshot. Don't confuse his lack of 3-pt shooting for not being able to shoot, at all. His inside game was his bread and butter, no one can argue that, but his jump shot was a lot better than you're giving him credit for.

It wasn't so good that people wouldn't happily dare him to make it on order to beat his team

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

It wasn't so good that people wouldn't happily dare him to make it on order to beat his team

This is hyperbole.

Teams most definitely weren't treating him like he was a Rondo-type. It was more the fact he could take anyone off the dribble and get to any spot on the floor, rather than defenders actually giving him a cushion and daring him to shoot.

 

[42 Monks]

This is hyperbole.

Teams most definitely weren't treating him like he was a Rondo-type. It was more the fact he could take anyone off the dribble and get to any spot on the floor, rather than defenders actually giving him a cushion and daring him to shoot.

I said early on that Rondo fukked up the standard on what a PG with a suspect jumper looks like in the league. I'd never compare Rondo's inherently broken, fraudulent, gimmicky abomination of a skillset to TP's catalog.

At the same time I'm saying that's what's making TP's finishing even more impressive in retrospect. Even TP didn't want to shoot it. Either Pop wouldn't let him or he was generally shook. You don't take that many runs at the rim at his size for fun. Even if you are the best at it.

 

[mbewane]

Little Known fact:

TP led the league in points in the paint in the '05 - '06 season