GoddamnyamanProf
Countdown to Armageddon
Lmao at that janky ass timeline, half them dudes you listed werent even in the league then
You dont know what the fukk youre talking about
Better Player...LeBron Or Hakeem?
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You dont know what the fukk youre talking about
Lord_Chief_Rocka
Superstar
What are you shaking your head At? Hakeem was an incredible athlete
As I said, Hakeem was incredible and I might put him as high as #5 all-time.
But ya'll acting like his playoff history was two years long.
He won 8 playoff series those two years...and only 8 more in the other 16 years of his career combined.
Outside of two Finals runs when there wasn't a dominant team in the league, he could only win one playoff series every other year. This is the guy who everyone talks about like he could take out anyone single-handed.
By comparison, Lebron has already won THIRTY series in just 13 years. Lebron has won as many series for Cleveland alone as Hakeem did for the Rockets, and in half the time.
11 out of 18 years, the Dream never made it out of the first round. 14 out of 18, he didn't make it past the second.
Warriors, Mavs, Lakers, Sonics, Jazz, Clippers - nearly everyone in the West got a chance to beat Haleem, and not always their best teams. In 1992 he missed the playoffs despite Thorpe having an all-star year and Kenny Smith/Vernon Maxwell in their prime putting in 31 and 11 as the starting backcourt. That team got beat out by weak Laker and Clipper squads for the last spot.
And ya'all are exaggerating how weak his teams were because you forget how weak ALL rosters were back then.
That was the expansion era with six expansion teams in seven years, and the league wasn't stacked to begin with. Great teams of that era had a star, a good complement, and maybe 1-2 decent role players.
Look at any team other than the stacked Bulls and you'll see they didn't go deep at all. Who was the 4th best player on the Sonics or the Jazz? Malone kept Hakeem out of the Finals two straight years when his sidekicks were Stockton/Hornacek at a combined 70 years old.
I ain't casting shade because Hakeem was a beast on both ends. But he needed help just like everyone else.
But ya'll acting like his playoff history was two years long.
He won 8 playoff series those two years...and only 8 more in the other 16 years of his career combined.
Outside of two Finals runs when there wasn't a dominant team in the league, he could only win one playoff series every other year. This is the guy who everyone talks about like he could take out anyone single-handed.
By comparison, Lebron has already won THIRTY series in just 13 years. Lebron has won as many series for Cleveland alone as Hakeem did for the Rockets, and in half the time.
11 out of 18 years, the Dream never made it out of the first round. 14 out of 18, he didn't make it past the second.
Warriors, Mavs, Lakers, Sonics, Jazz, Clippers - nearly everyone in the West got a chance to beat Haleem, and not always their best teams. In 1992 he missed the playoffs despite Thorpe having an all-star year and Kenny Smith/Vernon Maxwell in their prime putting in 31 and 11 as the starting backcourt. That team got beat out by weak Laker and Clipper squads for the last spot.
And ya'all are exaggerating how weak his teams were because you forget how weak ALL rosters were back then.
That was the expansion era with six expansion teams in seven years, and the league wasn't stacked to begin with. Great teams of that era had a star, a good complement, and maybe 1-2 decent role players.
Look at any team other than the stacked Bulls and you'll see they didn't go deep at all. Who was the 4th best player on the Sonics or the Jazz? Malone kept Hakeem out of the Finals two straight years when his sidekicks were Stockton/Hornacek at a combined 70 years old.
I ain't casting shade because Hakeem was a beast on both ends. But he needed help just like everyone else.
BRON PLAYS IN A shytTY EAST
AND BUILT SUPER TEAMS...
GIVE HAKEEM THE HEAT AND CAVS TEAMS
AND HE WINS 6 STRAIGHT.
is this like one of those old people threads where everything in the 90s was better?
give a 90s superstar player stacked team and he will win 6 straight?
so how come hakeem never went to the finals when barkley joined them?
isn't superstar supposed to elevate everyone's game? 
give a 90s superstar player stacked team and he will win 6 straight?
so how come hakeem never went to the finals when barkley joined them?
isn't superstar supposed to elevate everyone's game? 
People say dumb shyt like this when bron has carried trash teams
exactly, also look at his 1987 season, this was known as a garbage western conference where lakers had easy road to the finals. Hakeem won 42 games in the season and he lost to the 39 win sonics. And then he lost to the sonics again in 89 playoffs. That's average team consisting of Xavier McDaniel and Dale Ellis. Meanwhile Bron beating stronger teams like pistons and taking the mighty celtics to game 7 with the garbage roster he had.
And I love how a team that's 1 injury away from starting Shump, JR, TT, and Love along Bron as the starting five is a "Super Team!"
Or a team that was starting corpse-Bibby and Joel Anthony at the same time.
Or a team starting Chalmers, old Battier, and Dexter Pittman (or Ronnie Turiaf, or Joel Anthony) at the same time.
Did we ever hear that the 1996-1998 Bulls wins don't count when the Bulls were starting 3/5 of the All-NBA 1st-team AND had solid, big players at the other two spots AND had a fantastic bench with guys who could lead other teams coming in as 6th men?
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
I don't get where the myth about Hakeem singlehanded won 2 championships
Drexler was pretty much Wade in 2012-2014. He wasnt in position to win the MVP but he was definitely still an All Star type player. No Drexler= no ring in 1995
95 had no star power outside Dream but every position was valuable.
Hakeem: best player in the NBA
Thorpe: borderline all star... better than Horace Grant and Charles Oakley who were All Stars that year
Horry: Do it all type of player. Very clutch, stretches the floor hakeem and was tall as hell.
Maxwell: maybe was inconstant but he was a load to handle for the opposition when he gets it going. one of the main reasons why the Rockets came back after being down 2-1 against the Suns
jet: clutch shooting PG and could average like 16/7 on a weaker team. and he was sharing his minutes with Sam
so how come hakeem never went to the finals when barkley joined them?
is your dementia kicking in? The rockets with barkley were all their mid 30s I.E past their prime what were they going to win exactly? Had the rockets added barkley and drexler in 89 the argument would be different
Playaz Eyez
Veteran
is this like one of those old people threads where everything in the 90s was better?
give a 90s superstar player stacked team and he will win 6 straight?
so how come hakeem never went to the finals when barkley joined them?
Cause Hakeem, Barkley, and Clyde were all 33-35 and starting to decline you dope
Cause Hakeem, Barkley, and Clyde were all 33-35 and starting to decline you dope
That's not the point you fukking fukks. I used barkley example because I see guys over here claiming that hakeem would win 6 in a row if he played for the stacked team. SO here we go, in 96-97 season Hakeem averaged 23, Clyde 18 and Barkley 19. That's a pretty damn stacked team for the 90s standards. Even at the age of 33 or 34 they were averaging great numbers. All three played in the all star game that year, didnt make it to the finals, therefore it's a good example of Hakeem not winning it all with a stacked team
if that was Bron at the age of 33 playing with those guys yall would be crying about superteam shyt, I guarantee.
U said Kawhi was better than LeBron.
It's obvious that you like dude and you're a fukking retard.
WHO FINISHED SECOND IN MVP VOTING LAST YEAR??
REMIND ME FOLKS