Biden Wants Reparations To Include Native Americans

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LMAO None of these pathetic ass american pizza Pan-Africanist who feel so "connected" to Africa can even tell you which ports their ancestors in Africa departed from after being sold.:lolbron: And they don't identify with slavery because it's a "shamefully part of global black history"(bytchass self haters) so they basically have no heritage or lineage. :russ:

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start a movement called blacklivesmatter, hate the term all lives matter, but always include all lives in your struggle brehs :unimpressed:
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Who cares? As long as black people get their cut they can give the NAs some too. Some people just want to be angry at everything.
pointing out that another group of people who have not only recieved tons of reparations but have had a history of enslaving us as pointed out by @Supper throughout this thread do not deserve reparations. Does not mean everyone is mad

some of you nikkas are remedial on this site honestly:mjlol:
 

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This is the main issue that we'd have to address. So many scamming ass Cacs would try and claim ADOS or Native. I already know a few blonde haired and blue eyed $5 Indians. I don't want Cacs to get shyt off of the suffering and sacrifice of our ancestors. So we'd definitely have some vetting to do for anyone that looks questionable.
the darity rules clear this up, if you have ADOS ancestry(both parents, half ados, etc) AND have identified as black in the past 10 or so years. You are ADOS and qualify for reparations

so even if a cac realizes he has slave ancestry he wont be getting shyt nor qualify as being ADOS as he never identified as one
 

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Niether AAs or NAs are getting reparations from Mr crime bill
I actually think he might end up getting something done.

Kennedy was the friendly, liberal President that all the blacks liked, but Lyndon Johnson was the racist, experienced politician that actually got something done.

Maybe Biden will be the Lyndon Johnson to Barack's Kennedy? Racist enough to have some cover, but not so racist that he would completely deny helping.
 
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I don't see how this is a problem.
Indians on reservations get a real raw deal, not everyone got to make casino's that are huge money makers.

Other's are going through rampant alcoholism, high levels of poverty and other sorts of issues unique to reservation life.
The problem with this statement is that it doesn't hold the reservation accountable

Give me a reservation/autonomous zones to build up, I guarantee we would be eating good
The well-being/empowering the people comes before whatever ideology/politics/traditions/religions/isms
 

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No... I'm not concerned about Native Americans. I want reparation for the Blacks in the United States that are the descendants of American slaves.

Also... when Native Americans were getting their reparations from the US government I don't remember the Native Americans saying... "Wait... some of this should also go to the descendants of Black American slave's". They didn't give a fukk about black American slaves.

Including Native Americans in reparations for the descendants of black American slaves would just give the US government a excuse to not give black people what they really deserve. By Including Native Americans it'll open the door for other groups of people to come in saying... "B b but... what about us... we've been mistreated too... we deserve something also"... and then guess what... we are right back to that "People of Color" bullshyt and now the focus is not even on the decendants of black slaves anymore and that's setting the descendants of black slaves up to not really get shyt. It'll be... "Well... the US government only has so much money and land... the goverment can't afford to give all those groups that... thier just going to have to settle for this or NO DEAL"... and once again BLACK PEOPLE GET SCREWED.

This is about the descendants of black American slaves not Native Americans or any other group.

Facts, in fact, they were going hard to make sure black people were removed from the tribe so they couldn't get any of that $$:mjlol:

Cherokee Nation Expels Native Citizens with African Ancestry


Native American Cherokees voted to expel descendants of black slaves from their tribe nation in a special election that has prompted charges of racism, according to returns made public early Sunday.

But a vote of 77 percent to 23 percent, the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma adopted Saturday an amendment to their constitution that strips membership from so-called “Freedmen,” those descended from slaves once owned by Cherokees, blacks who were married to Cherokees and children of mixed-race families.

“The Cherokee people exercised the most basic democratic right, the right to vote,” Chad Smith, Principal Chief of the Cherokee Nation, said in a statement. “Their voice is clear as to who should be citizens of the Cherokee Nation. No one else has the right to make that determination.”
However, opponents of the amendment say it was a racist project designed to deny the distribution of US government funds and tribal revenue to those with African-American heritage, US media reported.

“This is a sad chapter in Cherokee history,” Taylor Keen, a Cherokee tribal council member who opposes the amendment, told the New York Times.

“But this is not my Cherokee Nation. My Cherokee Nation is one that honors all parts of her past.”

Advocates of changing the 141-year-old treaty rules defining who is a Cherokee say the tribal nation has a sovereign right to decide citizenship and that other tribes base membership on blood lines.

The Cherokee Nation, which ranks as the second-largest tribe behind the Navajo, has some 250,000 to 270,000 members and is growing rapidly. Members are entitled to benefits from the US federal government and tribal services, including medical and housing aid and scholarships.

Cherokees, along with several other tribes, held black slaves and allied themselves with the Confederacy during the US civil war. After the war, the federal government in an 1866 treaty ordered the slaves freed.

In 1983, the Cherokee Nation expelled many descendants of slaves as members but a Cherokee tribunal ruled last year that the Freedmen were fully-fledged citizens with voting rights. That court decision prompted Saturday’s special vote.

Native American tribes recognized by the United States government have the right to self-determination and authority similar to US states.

Cherokee Nation Expels Native Citizens with African Ancestry

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What makes the Seminoles different is that blacks – estelusti in the Seminole language of Muscogee – were part of the tribe from the beginning, owning land, serving as interpreters and negotiators with the whites, teaching the others how to grow rice.

“It was an Afro-Indian tribe, a multiethnic reliance,” said anthropologist Joseph Opala of James Madison University in Virginia.

Even their name says so. “Seminole” is a corruption of the Spanish word “cimarron,” meaning “runaway,” he said.

In Florida, the Seminoles still could not completely evade the U.S. Army, which was intent on forcing tribes throughout the American South to move west of the Mississippi in the 1820s and 1830s to make room for white settlers. Hundreds of Seminoles agreed to leave and were taken west by boat across the Gulf of Mexico and then on barges up the Mississippi and Arkansas rivers to Oklahoma.


Some bands battled on deep in the swamps. Today, their ancestors make up the Seminole Tribe of Florida – a tribe that never has signed a peace treaty with the U.S. government.

Relations between black and blood Seminoles were strained during the long era of segregation in America, when, even in Indian territory, blacks went to separate schools.

But for the last 40 years, the Seminoles have lived together mainly in harmony until the federal money came.

Wayne Shaw, chairman of the Seminole general council, takes a lazy drag off his cigarette and shakes his head.

“There’s no such thing as a black Seminole,” he says.

Since the $42 million arrived, the opinion has been heard often in Seminole County, red-dirt scrubland where many of the 15,000 blood and black Seminoles live side by side in houses and shacks, the black Seminoles outnumbered 9-to-1.

From the start, the tribal council decided only blood Seminoles were entitled to a share of the money, which it doles out in small amounts to tribal members who apply for help with expenses such as home repair and school tuition.

Two years ago, the tribal council formalized the distinction between black and blood, changing the tribe’s constitution to double the blood requirement for tribal council representation to one-fourth Indian ancestry.

Federal law gives Indian tribes the right to decide who is a member and who is not. Every tribe’s freedom of action is limited by its treaties with the United States and by its own constitution, which can’t be changed without federal approval.

The treaty of 1866 made black Seminoles full members; and the federal government has refused to ratify the constitutional amendments that effectively banished black Seminoles from the tribe.

The Seminole Nation sued and, in the meantime, held a new election for tribal positions, with only blood Seminoles allowed to vote. Ken Chambers, a half-blood Seminole whose followers wear T-shirts that say “Seminole By Blood,” was elected chief.

https://www.starnewsonline.com/news/20020922/race-money-split-seminole-indians
 
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........we gonna pretend/act like Amerindians--who did get fuked over--didn't have it better than black folks?



even in slavery times, if you had a Amerindian mother you were automatically gifted freedom



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they were even accepted as "whites" in the South as long as they weren't thought to be part black

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There is a reason some afro-descended people started playing the Indian game:aicmon:


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as Indians have been getting forms of reparations:heh: (this article is from the 1950s)



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The Native Americans really are the one muthafukkas that can say they been fukked over more than anyone, they've been damn near put to extinction from cacs


but they got something....
 

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Just because we possibly came before Columbus does not make us natives. Going by that logic the Norse that came to the Americas would be natives too.





Like I said, im not gonna debate woe is me bullshyt between peoples, my ancestors didn't, I wont. Mfs didnt sit around and debate who went thru worst like this modern twitter ass generation.

My point is these arguments saying natives oppressed us too is far to simplified especially when the end result was us helping the white man take their lands. There are 40 millions AfAms and 5 million natives, that ends that discussion.


GTFOH:camby:Indians downfall was their immune system

Why Native Americans Didn't Wipe Out Europeans With Diseases

The Impact of European Diseases on Native Americans | Encyclopedia.com
 

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The Comanche actually attacked, captured, and enslaved many African-Americans free, runaway, and enslaved and sold them to either whites or slave owning native tribes like the Creeks.

Black, White, and Indian

I can't remember right now but one of these western tribes were being rewarded for scalping black folks/runaways, by white people:shaq2:
 
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