Biden will announce a six-pronged plan to get COVID under control today

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Just wait until people find out about the Patriot Act lol.

That's my only stance on this, everyone was willing to give up whatever in the name of security post 9/11, and that turned out to be fukking terrible....

Just further sets precedent on other stuff..(everyone should be vaccinated unless you're a fukking idiot...but I think idiots should have free reign to kill themselves...:yeshrug:)
 

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I aint mad at this....force these muthafukkas to get it or make life miserable for em

I had a family member go to the ER recently for something not covid related and couldnt even be seen because its filled with unvaxxed people taking up all the beds.
 

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I aint mad at this....force these muthafukkas to get it or make life miserable for em

I had a family member go to the ER recently for something not covid related and couldnt even be seen because its filled with unvaxxed people taking up all the beds.

Yup and for an anecdotal observation, it's gonna be like this until at least March I'd guess....

Our ER is just fukked up right now....we have so many covid cases we're making muhfukkas wait out in cars as long as their oxygen level is over 94.....
 

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Nah. They always had the stick.

And you think at some point they'll stop using it?

I don't know where you stand on it but if someone says you have a choice in a matter, but if you don't make the choice they want, they'll force you to, they you never had a choice. In my opinion, anyway. Let's drop the pretenses.

So I guess you're right. But we can stop the bs...
 

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Like I said already. I already know its real and Ive had people I know whom were vaccinated and unvaccinated die . Theres people whom beat it like a common cold without a vaccine last year and theres people whom are struggling with it now. It all depends on the body.


We speaking on the Vaccines specifically and peoples concerns because it doesn't 100 percent guarantee safety like many people are pushing the narrative to believe. Especially since that vaccinated people are also spreaders and they also have flu like side effects like Covid symptoms:

Vaccinated people with "breakthrough" COVID-19 Delta infections carry as much virus as the unvaccinated: study - CBS News


Ughh... The media has a bad habit of reporting on papers that haven't been peer reviewed. The study that they referenced used PCR to measure viral loads but PCR tests can’t differentiate between antibody-neutralised virions (or broken down viral debris) vs infectious particles. That was actually a common complaint from other virologists and immunologists who have looked it over but nevertheless that paper made it's rounds in the news for a week.

Thanks to that we have "vaccinated are spreaders too" argument.
 

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And you think at some point they'll stop using it?

I don't know where you stand on it but if someone says you have a choice in a matter, but if you don't make the choice they want, they'll force you to, they you never had a choice. In my opinion, anyway. Let's drop the pretenses.

So I guess you're right. But we can stop the bs...

I’m vaccinated so these mandates don’t impact me yet. I’m a little hesitant to take a booster . And definitely side eyeing the government if that will become mandated as well.

but yeah… we don’t have the freedoms we think we have. A lot of this push back is performative when you take in to account the history of this country and world governments in general.

they’ve always had the power and are constantly using on a bunch of issue. Covid is making it more obvious.
 

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Jacobson vs Massachusetts

ARGUED
Dec 6, 1904

DECIDED
Feb 20, 1905

Facts of the case
A Massachusetts law allowed cities to require residents to be vaccinated against smallpox. Cambridge adopted such an ordinance, with some exceptions. Jacobson refused to comply with the requirement and was fined five dollars.

Question
Did the mandatory vaccination law violate Jacobson's Fourteenth Amendment right to liberty?

Conclusion
The Court held that the law was a legitimate exercise of the state's police power to protect the public health and safety of its citizens. Local boards of health determined when mandatory vaccinations were needed, thus making the requirement neither unreasonable nor arbitrarily imposed
.


I'm not a lawyer so I'll just call up @The Hon. Stringer Bell for this :hubie:
 

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I said the same thing weeks ago.. Americans for the most part are PUZZY. Especially CACs They would much rather get a AR 15 and go on a mass shooting killing innocents at schools or in supermarkets instead of going to these politicians and these Tyranny's thats causing hell for you.

Facts. Gun owners that are scared of busting shots at the financial oppressors, are just cowards.
 

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These people are idiots. What blows me about all this is... OF ALL THE THE ISSUES TO TAKE A STAND ON, THIS IS THE ONE THEY CHOOSE?!?! :mindblown: Imagine having this same smoke for universal healthcare, racism, or fair wages. My goodness the progress we could have made.

It's selfishness to have superficial items and not take a stand for something of substance.
 

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Jacobson vs Massachusetts

ARGUED
Dec 6, 1904

DECIDED
Feb 20, 1905

Facts of the case
A Massachusetts law allowed cities to require residents to be vaccinated against smallpox. Cambridge adopted such an ordinance, with some exceptions. Jacobson refused to comply with the requirement and was fined five dollars.

Question
Did the mandatory vaccination law violate Jacobson's Fourteenth Amendment right to liberty?

Conclusion
The Court held that the law was a legitimate exercise of the state's police power to protect the public health and safety of its citizens. Local boards of health determined when mandatory vaccinations were needed, thus making the requirement neither unreasonable nor arbitrarily imposed
.


I'm not a lawyer so I'll just call up @The Hon. Stringer Bell for this :hubie:

From a legal perspective this has been decided multiple times. Look at how other governments around the world are responding to this. Anti-vaxxers are heading towards forced quarantines or whatever other measures governments can legally enforce.
 

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And yet they will still be mandated by OSHA.

Issues related to vaccinations and testing for COVID-19 in the workplace must be negotiated with the APWU. At this time the APWU opposes the mandating of COVID-19 vaccinations in relation to U.S. postal workers.
 
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