the rhyme king
truth.com
he did he explain everything to the world in that vibe interview in 1995 the wake up show interview and against all odds the second verse.
Biggie had NOTHING to do with Pac getting Shot in NY
- Thread starter WithTheShit
- Start date
he did he explain everything to the world in that vibe interview in 1995 the wake up show interview and against all odds the second verse.
Yeah it really just depend on how u believe it went down...Pac was paranoid about doin the record in the first place but needed the money...then apparently he either screamed on Jimmy or Pacs tone which may or may not have been intended to be disrespectful came off that way,and the shooters got called at that point
.They wuz all in the same room when Pac took the elevator up I believe,I don't know if he thought Jimmy would tell them he wuz bout to have shot Pac...or if he would've voiced his frustrations and they should've known what wuz comin after that.
Pac had his suspicions and felt they wuznt real friends after that but left it at that in the vibe....that Who Shot Ya record I think changed everything and took it to another level,no matter when it was recorded it was bad taste and they had to know what they wuz doin,but just didn't care after the vibe article
...no reason for Pac to care when he got out.I do think Pac had worked up enuff goodwill to get sum empathy and understanding after goin thru what he just went thru....dude got sent to jail for sex abuse,shot up....came out made a album laughin at the nikkas who did it and anybody down with em
...then a more subdued album where he barely mentioned Big but instead after gettin his money and strategy together threatened Jimmy Henchman on the realest shyt he ever wrote,still now sure why nikkas pretend that was nuthing and he wuz still shook of jimmy and them
Also is still dissin Puffy on that song but not Biggie which is interestin..."Puffy gettin robbed like a bytch to hide the fact he did sum shyt he shouldna did"....which I believe is in reference to crips ownin Puffys pockets at that point if he wanted to keep his nice business man image and not appear to be just another Suge.
Which leads me to believe Pac knew about the bounty on the chains or hit the crips had out on him and deathrow thru puff....which explains why he would run up on Orlando and ask which set he with becuz that set had a bounty out on him personally....explains it better than Pac wuz attacking Orlando for sum other nikka that got his chain snatched weeks ago,or bcuz that was pacs initiation into the bloods
..U gotta think all the crips on deathrow and pacs own crip affiliations,if it was a hit out on Pac,he woulda knew about it...gang members keeping shyt quietly all of a sudden
?On a sidenote Biggie wuz supposedly friends with Snoop according to Snoop at least,and Biggie gassed nikkas up to go shoot up his trailer lol...so maybe Biggie only had love for his day one nikkas
...and all these dudes thinking they was friends and expecting loyalty and gratefulness just expected too much
TheProfessor
Pro
It wasn't because of Pac's tone or his request for extra money. It was because of a Page Six article in the NY Post where Pac said some sh*t about them that they didn't like.
the rhyme king
truth.com
yeah he dissed hatian jack in the daily news that is why they set him up to get beat up originally it wasn't till he reached for his gun that they shot him.
And that thread yesterday did raise a lot of interesting points and parallels on what they did to the panthers with causing infighting,its eerie similarities but u would have to take it all the way back to Hatian Jack,a lot of planning would've had to be involved where really none was needed cuz they could've easily threw Pac in jail and threw the book at em numerous times that's where my doubts come in at...what u think about that?.....But yes I do believe that beef had eeverything to do with Pacs death and in turn Biggies....Pac said himself "witnessed me strapped wit macs knew I wouldn't play that"...implying biggie/puff would've only known it to be a robbery.....but them knowing him personally and knowing he stay strapped they shoulda known just a harmless robbery coulda led to him having to kill sumbody or them killing him...him reaching for his weapon which he didn't have to do got him shot the first time.
And him attacking Orlando over the bounty or hit out in vegas,which again he didn't have to do got him killed
So u could say gettin shot was his fault,and gettin killed was his fault,but how u can blame a nikka for not bein a coward...he picked the way he wanted to go out if he was going to go out which I gotta 
...and Puffy is inderictly responsible at the very least.....with that said they was all kids basically....we all done stupid shyt that could've led to us or sumbody else gettin killed that u look back on like it was petty
...they just wasn't so lucky to not lose casulties behind it....Pac died for not bein like the rest of these rap nikkas who typically play they position to the real big money gangsters and the goons
What fat joe was sayin in that interview was real,rap just ain't safe for battlin and really haven't been for a while,since the beggining really....one as personal as this sumbody wuz bound to die,I thought we had one comin again wit Ja and 50,not sure if Supreme still had power backin up murda inc like he once did or wuz even on the bullshyt anymore...but I thought sumbody wuz probaly gettin bodied tho.
And him attacking Orlando over the bounty or hit out in vegas,which again he didn't have to do got him killed
So u could say gettin shot was his fault,and gettin killed was his fault,but how u can blame a nikka for not bein a coward
...he picked the way he wanted to go out if he was going to go out which I gotta ...and Puffy is inderictly responsible at the very least.....with that said they was all kids basically....we all done stupid shyt that could've led to us or sumbody else gettin killed that u look back on like it was petty...they just wasn't so lucky to not lose casulties behind it....Pac died for not bein like the rest of these rap nikkas who typically play they position to the real big money gangsters and the goonsWhat fat joe was sayin in that interview was real,rap just ain't safe for battlin and really haven't been for a while,since the beggining really....one as personal as this sumbody wuz bound to die,I thought we had one comin again wit Ja and 50,not sure if Supreme still had power backin up murda inc like he once did or wuz even on the bullshyt anymore...but I thought sumbody wuz probaly gettin bodied tho.
I'm sure i remember hearing sumthin about Pac getting agitated Jimmy kept blowing his phone up or not having all the money and Pac got short wit Jimmy.? But yea it coulda been a legit setup from that article too,didn't seem like all that complext of a setup tho...and if getting Pac to showup is the major part of this setup,why would u call him and say u don't have all of his money on u
?...seems like ud leave that out til u make sure he get there,cuz he easily coulda said he wasn't comin after that.
TheProfessor
Pro
Yeah all true. But the set-up was already in place. That's why he was blowing up his phone in the first place -- make sure he showed up.I'm sure i remember hearing sumthin about Pac getting agitated Jimmy kept blowing his phone up or not having all the money and Pac got short wit Jimmy.? But yea it coulda been a legit setup from that article too,didn't seem like all that complext of a setup tho...and if getting Pac to showup is the major part of this setup,why would u call him and say u don't have all of his money on u
TheProfessor
Pro
I think they all did, man. That whole sh*t was just...suspect.