Biggie seemed like such a humble guy. Who The F was behind 'Long Kiss Goodnight' ?

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All of this is true however, the initial origin of the beef is all Pac. Biggie and Pac beef only started because of Pac. Literally he was the main the culprit and caused the tension, whether or not Suge put the battery in his back or not, if Pac says nothing about Biggie, there is no beef. Pac was acting like a lunatic. Biggie didn't handle it great either (Making the diss records, going to LA months after Pac's death) but him being pissed at some guy that was suppose to be cool with him, dissing him, because he has this big conspiracy theory shyt he made up in his head and through hearsay, makes sense. Pac could've merely talked to Biggie and get his side but instead chose to run with emotions, forth hand info from jail house snitches and Suge Knight
This...... Pac did start it ... His whole issue with Haitian jack/Jimmy henchman morphed into an issue with big n them ...baring in mind tupac was told by a good few nikkas to stay away from them but pac never took no notice as usual:hhh:.... Pac wanted to identify with that street element that them nikkas were really about.... Until they flipped on him ..... Then pac start lashing out at everyone suge n them bloods Deffo were putting a battery in pacs back ....:wow:then puffy took biggie down a dangerous path by some of the moves he took ... Now we left with 2 dead rap nikkas dead over shyt that could have easily been avoided :mjcry:
 

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All I know is this, if you my boy and you run the city and I get set up .

:stopitslime: see this the shyt im talking about you tupac fans...making shyt up and running with it like its facts when its not...when pac got shot biggie was nobody he didnt run shyt...he was coming out since his 1st album dropped a few months before pac got shot...so save that "bbbbut biggie never warned pac" when it has been proven biggie and mike tyson warned him...but of course you guys will ignore that part
 

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mobb deeps song came out after pac was already dead
was made before, but he never heard it.
they were saving it for their album
u gotta understand, no one expected pac to die
also, theres no deadline on when you have to response.
same way pac was using it for his album, as mobb used it for theirs, biggie was gonna do the same

Nah, "drop a gem" was out before Pac passed. I heard it on mixtapes. Specifically a Doo Wop one
 

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prodigy wrote in his own book drop a gem was getting airplay and on mixtapes in august

after pac died mobb deep told radio stations to stop spinning it

This is a fact...i remember the night it premiered....also remember Hot 97 talking to Hav over the phone and the song getting deaded out of rotation. I know Stretch was playing it at the time overnights, and Flex was too.
 

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hit em up was not on all eyez on me
gansta party made no reference to biggie or bad boy lyrically
only in the video, vwhere he falsely tells the world that biggie and puff set him up to get shot lmao
funny how he directly implicates biggie and puff for a crime that had nothing to do with it
even if you go with pacs dumb theory that they knew beforehand, anyone watching that video would think they were the masterminds behind it lol
he was puttin on a show man
NY87 was released as a diss towards bad boy in 95 when Snoop and DPG got their trailer shot up because Biggie claimed they were disrespecting NY. That was Pac's first on wax diss towards bad boy.
And Biggie and Puffy released an ambiguous song that could have been interpreted as a diss towards Pac getting shot in NY. So technically Biggie and Puffy started to feel cocky when Pac was thrown to prison, despite what @FreshAIG is saying. And those actions mirrored that of when Pac died and Suge got locked up.

Thing is y'all Biggie stans love to re-write history and paint Biggie as an innocent rapper (when he was a serial cheater, women beater, and a dead beat father) and Pac as a Godzilla type monster.
 

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so its ok for nikkas to come to nyc to make a diss video and the king of ny cant say anything about it? some of you guys are clowns man...if ny nikkas went to la to do a diss video and someone from the west said something on the radio and they got shot at its ok but since its ny nikkas doing it now thats the problem? who raised you nikkas? smh
NY NY wasn't a diss record at first but after they got shot at it became just that. And don't forget Biggie said "Pac and DPG" was filming a "diss record" and that lie almost got snoop and them killed. Ironically, Biggie almost got people killed for being stupid and reckless despite Biggie stans claiming Pac was that type of guy.
 

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nikkas really justifying disrespecting the dead:mjlol:

i really dont understand this logic...if you have beef with another nikka who disrespected you publicly and he die you all of a sudden supposed to care about the guy? just cause its pac your favorite rapper that you like doesnt mean he's exempt from people dissing him who he had beef with...like theres a moral code for tupac only...if you from the hood the hood nikkas you beefing with aint going to buy your family groceries when you die...the logic is funny with this...motherfukkers in chicago still be dissing the dead opps shyt is regular hood shyt
 
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i really dont understand this logic...if you have beef with another nikka who disrespected you publicly and he die you all of a sudden supposed to care about the guy? just cause its pac your favorite rapper that you like doesnt mean he's exempt from people dissing him who he had beef with...like theres a moral code for tupac only...if you from the hood the hood nikkas you beefing with aint going to buy your family groceries when you die...the logic is funny with this...motherfukkers in chicago still be dissing the dead opps shyt is regular hood shyt
u dont have to care about the nikka or say RIP or anything.. but make a diss track after he's dead? Its not that hard to just not talk about him anymore.

the fact that youre using chiraq rappers who are clearly not all the way there as an example of why its ok to diss a dead person speaks for itself
 

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u dont have to care about the nikka or say RIP or anything.. but make a diss track after he's dead? Its not that hard to just not talk about him anymore.

the fact that youre using chiraq rappers who are clearly not all the way there as an example of why its ok to diss a dead person speaks for itself

nah im just speaking hood politics...and the diss was made before...i understand what you mean but real talk just cause my enemy died i really wouldnt give a fukk
 

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I dunno, that "two pacs" line on Brooklyn's Finest was pretty direct.. but it was trash as fukk. What type of man gonna admit some nikka fukked your wife like that? :scust:

:what:

it was a faith diss- for putting herself inna stupid situation


it wasnt a admission !!!
if
fay has twinz she'll problaly have two pac, get it 2pacs
 

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And all I'm saying is he sent goons to clap at nikkas he was supposed to be cool with and have a good relationship with. All for some fake ass East/West beef. Snoop gets hit in them trailers. Blood is on Biggie's hands. And Snoop ain't do shyt to Biggie.

:snoop:

breh

how many times are you gonna be disingenuous with this incident
in many posts ive attempted to explain to you - biggie went on Angie hot 97 show & said (2pac and DPG) NOT snoop who he was cool with



which makes your outlook on this situation misleading
 
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