Bilas says certain teams thought about boycotting Final Four

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What's with the mindset of "nevermind the full ride scholarship"?

I'm not playing devil's advocate, I'm genuinely interested in this position.

A student accepts a full ride scholarship in exchange for their services as an athlete.

How is this not a form of payment, especially if the student accepted the terms of the agreement ahead of time?

To my understanding, those athletic college students may not make any money off of their image or likeness for any reason, while other people on other scholarships can.

You can check this out for further details: O'Bannon v. NCAA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If that's true, and I think it is, then fundamentally dishonest to begin with.

then look at this too:

 

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the amount of money the ACC has made from the tourney is :whoo:


players should at least get a cut of tourney money....wouldn't be a bad incentive tbh

fukk how unfair it is to teams that don't make it :skip:
 

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As I said if players want to get paid, just don't show up. Imagine on a Saturday if every d1 football team who was playing at 12pm didn't decide to play
To my understanding, those athletic college students may not make any money off of their image or likeness for any reason, while other people on other scholarships can.

You can check this out for further details: O'Bannon v. NCAA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If that's true, and I think it is, then fundamentally dishonest to begin with.

then look at this too:



Were those student-athletes under the misguided impression that they would be able to profit off their likeness prior to accepting the terms of the scholarship? If so, then I would agree that it's fundamentally dishonest. If not, then it's not.
 

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Please pay them/let them get endorsements and all that so we can get another college hoops game, I wish I was a billionaire I'd finance that shyt :wow:
 

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Were those student-athletes under the misguided impression that they would be able to profit off their likeness prior to accepting the terms of the scholarship? If so, then I would agree that it's fundamentally dishonest. If not, then it's not.

They were under the misguided impression that scholarships would last as long as they do at school, but if you watched the youtube video, you will see that they can cut your scholarship at the drop of a hat, leaving you with nothing.
Or when the scholarship doesn't cover room & board amongst other things, your left with nothing. But like you said, they signed the agreement so its OK.
I disagree with that notion, but if that's your argument, tell it to the judge that ruled in favour of o'bannon and not the ncaa
 

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They were under the misguided impression that scholarships would last as long as they do at school, but if you watched the youtube video, you will see that they can cut your scholarship at the drop of a hat, leaving you with nothing.
Or when the scholarship doesn't cover room & board amongst other things, your left with nothing. But like you said, they signed the agreement so its OK.
I disagree with that notion, but if that's your argument, tell it to the judge that ruled in favour of o'bannon and not the ncaa


I've known a number of college athletes and never heard of a full-ride scholarship that didn't cover room and board. Not saying it doesn't exist, it's just likely not something common enough to be used as a talking point.

And yes, a scholarship can be lost, just like a job. If anything, that strengthens the position of a scholarship as compensation for services rendered, no?
 

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I've known a number of college athletes and never heard of a full-ride scholarship that didn't cover room and board. Not saying it doesn't exist, it's just likely not something common enough to be used as a talking point.

And yes, a scholarship can be lost, just like a job. If anything, that strengthens the position of a scholarship as compensation for services rendered, no
?

That all depends on the circumstances in which you lose it. If you get hurt at work or during work, should one lose their job or scholarship?
 

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That all depends on the circumstances in which you lose it. If you get hurt at work or during work, should one lose their job or scholarship?

That's a good point. I had a friend who played volleyball on scholarship in college and got injured. She didn't lose her scholarship but if I recall there was some potential bullshyt about her eligibility. I don't think one should lose their job or scholarship if they're injured whilst performing duties required of the role, so yea that's a problem.
 

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:sas1: Maybe now folks will understand the importance of collective bargaining and unions

:salute:Northwestern for taking a stand.

In any industry, as long as the workers are all separate entities voicing different concerns, they'll never be able to force ownership to meet their demands.
 

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:sas1: Maybe now folks will understand the importance of collective bargaining and unions

:salute:Northwestern for taking a stand.

In any industry, as long as the workers are all separate entities voicing different concerns, they'll never be able to force ownership to meet their demands.

Unions in athletics kinda work though, everywhere else :mjcry:
 
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