Bill Belichick Decaying Before Our Eyes Breh
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I love how Pats fans downplay Brady, yet Belichick receives a pass for blowing SB 52, seemingly.on purpose.
Billy B said Im backkkkkkk 
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Nah, you don't get it. Bill made up for that fireable offense the very next year when he won the Super Bowl all by himself by shutting down the vaunted Rams offense.
This dude saying Tom had Randy (who caught the potential game winning TD with 2:42 to go in SB42 before Bill's defense blew it) and Wes (who actually had the ball in his hands, unlike Asante, to ice SB46) while saying nothing of Bill giving Tom the 31st ranked defense in 2011, yet, he still had them in position to win the game. It was a fukkin miracle they were in the Super Bowl that year.
You people need to stop with these stupid rhetorical questions.
No one is saying Tom did it all by himself. We know he had a really good defense.
Again, no one is saying Tom did it all by yourself. We know he had a really good defense. But all you Belichick dikkriders can do is repeat the same generic "good defense won those games" line and intentionally miss the big picture:
Brady's ability to perform well and elevate those receiving corps, lead the locker room, and be clutch in the postseason was able to cover up Bill's shytty drafting, shytty personality (that many players have talked about), and cheapness, and mediocre-ass coaching staffs, thus allowing Bill Belichick's defenses to shine. The only reason Brady was even "a game manager" back then was because he didn't have much to work with on offense.
Belichicks defenses weren't able to amount to anything significant in his other 11 seasons without Brady. Why? Because then his other flaws were no longer masked by Tom those years. If the Pats carried Brady those years, then why hasn't Bill been able to carry other QBs to titles the same way?
I feel like I'm wasting my time explaining this basic ass common sense logicI'm sick
I will always disagree with brining up his tenure as a Browns head coach. It's revisionist history to not acknowledge that there was no salary cap and free agency when he first arrived there, and the ownership was sabotaging because they wanted to move.
The quarterback is easily the most important position in sports, and there is no denying that. I'll make a larger post later, but we can breakdown season by season between the two and who may have been more valuable during those years.
My issue with people discrediting Belichick is that they only say, "He hasn't won without Brady" and act like comparing his Browns tenure to his Patriots tenure is apples to apples, when it's not.
Pre 2007-2008, would you say it was more Belichick or Brady? This is the question where I can't always have a conversation with people (not you) that want to use revisionist history and say is was more Brady than Belichick/defense.
Nah, you don't get it. Bill made up for that fireable offense the very next year when he won the Super Bowl all by himself by shutting down the vaunted Rams offense.
This dude saying Tom had Randy (who caught the potential game winning TD with 2:42 to go in SB42 before Bill's defense blew it) and Wes (who actually had the ball in his hands, unlike Asante, to ice SB46) while saying nothing of Bill giving Tom the 31st ranked defense in 2011, yet, he still had them in position to win the game. It was a fukkin miracle they were in the Super Bowl that year.
Super Bowl 42 Patriots were in that game at all because of the DEFENSE, Patriots scored 14 points in the entire game. Offense(that was built around scoring and led the NFL in nearly every category) didn’t show up, defense had given up 10 points until there was 35 seconds left in the game and 2011 the patriots defense was ranked 31 where? In yards
that’s what you nikkaz use to fit the narrative? Only stat that matter is points and Patriots were ranked #15 in points allowed. At the end of the game having the most yards doesn’t win you the game having the most points do.You can’t score 14 points and Blame the defense for losing it. Game was 10-7 Giants late in the 4th quarter and you’re blaming the defense?
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I don't know a single Patriots fan that gives Belichick a "pass" for Super Bowl 52, not one.
I do know MANY Patriots fans that give him a lot of crap for that performance, yet seemingly just shrug off the last Super Bowl performance against the Rams.
This is so false. I always hear about him holding the historic Rams offense to 3 pts, while benching Butler, is rarely brought up these days. You are downplaying that event. He sabotaged his own team, in the biggest game of the year.
We still don’t know what Butler did AND a lot of the team Success has to do with Beli not giving preferential treatment to any player and the team following rules. If you’re late or miss practices or violate team rules you’re not gonna play.
I still don’t give him a pass for benching Butler but STILL in “Bill we trust”. We not winning 6 of them without Bill and Brady would’ve been Colt McCoy if he was drafted into another situation.
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The fact is, Brady won a Super Bowl the year after leaving Bill on a franchise that hadn't made the playoffs in 13 years and the Pats have been mediocre since he left with train wreck offenses. Fair or not, that's been Beli's M.O. without Brady during his coaching career.
The fact is, Brady won a Super Bowl the year after leaving Bill on a franchise that hadn't made the playoffs in 13 years and the Pats have been mediocre since he left with train wreck offenses. Fair or not, that's been Beli's M.O. without Brady during his coaching career.
That is true, and on a surface level, I see why people automatically go to Brady being more important than Belichick, but in reality, it's not as black and white as "Brady won without Bill". That is my biggest issue with this debate. It's not all black and white like that.
Disgraceful ass bullshyt to post something like this.
Do you even think Brady is good, then?
It's funny, comments like this are why Belichick's legacy gets scrutiny. You can't keep acting Brady is some scrub without Bill... and then get surprised when people shyt on Bill for how he looks without Brady
Brady wouldve been Colt McCoy if drafted by another team? This is so disrespectful and dismissive. You Patriots fans are some true turncoats. All because of some stupid combine, when Brady was voted team MVP of a top 5 team that was a college powehouse, who was filled with future NFL talent. All because the same stupid scouts who thought that Spergonn Wynn was actually talented, overreacted to a poor 40 time.