Bill Cosby grants interview from prison. Talks regrets of pound cake speech, proclaims innocence.

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It's clear some of yall don't know anything of Cosby's history when it comes to black people. He's always been straight up about wanting black people to "behave" a certain way because of public perception and things.

I believe he's guilty when it comes to some of these women, but calling him a c00n is crazy.
 

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Hey IMPO his “pound cake” speech was spot on. If it hurt anyone’s feelings, oh well..so be it.:manny:. I’ve worked as a social worker, and I know a few others who have as well...we’ve seen it up close and personal and hasn’t told any lies imo...it’s tough love.

Cosby has always been down for the community and he has always put his money where his mouth was. If you’re from Philly then you already know about the number of scholarships he’s given out to black kids there.

He even paid for an SAT prep program at my school back in the day for black kids.i was able to eat off of that before I took the SATs.

I’ve met him a few times, and a few others I know have too. He was always cool.

Allegations aside, he’s good in my book
 
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He didn't. I caught that but should have worded it better. He said that speech wasn't for all Black Americans. Which I agree with. The speech was aimed at younger black people and the hood BUT it was at an award ceremony for the NAACP. None of the people he was talking about were in that building. That audience was made up of upper middle class and rich black people and some "Liberal" whites. Had he pulled up on the block in Philly and gave the same speech I would've respected that. But all he was doing was preaching to the choir instead that room was filled with a whole bunch of people who look down on the average black person anyway so that speech wasn't helping at all fam. .

He didn't just pull up, he TOURED hoods across America saying the EXACT same thing, to the audience he was referring to.......................to standing room only audiences.

posted this before, here he is speaking out an outdoor event in Newark,NJ
his part starts at 8:26


if you do the research, I'd bet that Cosby was in the hood in your state during that tour...and besides talking , he funded all types of grassroots programs everywhere he visited


Giving the speech where he gave it was mostly calling out Black organizations and leadership for paying lip service to trying to reverse the negative trends in the community. They were the first ones to get offended because he was pulling their cards.
When Cosby was out in the hood, the people came out to see him say pretty much the same stuff he said in the poundcake speech. His track record of actually doing things to help Black people made the same people he was airing out receptive to what he was saying.
 

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he wasn’t convicted of rape tho... you have no idea on what you’re talking about....
Aggravated indecent assault is the penetration of the genitals or anus of another person without their consent. Aggravated indecent assault requires only penetration "however slight."

i can say somebody stole from me
and you would say they were convicted of "larceny" not stealing

symantics
 

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Maybe Bill should have heeded his own speech and kept his pants up, his pills to himself and stayed out of white women

:yeshrug:

We can talk about the youth, but apparently this is what our elders are on. And it caught up with him.
Too bad.
 

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The pound cake speech was fukked up, but people using it and saying that it makes it OK for him to go down for rape are enemies of progress.
It’s not ok for him to go down.

But why is it we can do the “don’t blame everything on white people, take accountability” game when it comes to criticizing black folks and the hood

but now we can’t say the same about Cosby’s situation. Which he absolutely brought on himself by practicing a vile lifestyle for decades.
 

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free Cosby

dude is a legend forever based on everything he did for blacks globally.

How could nikkas turn on Bill Cosby out of everybody, he didn't sugarcoat shyt and often presented his ideas in a polarizing fashion, but dude put his money where his mouth was when it came to caring about the progression of black people.

Dude should be deified with other great black figures, and this is how his legacy ends.

He got railroaded.
shouldn't have been fukkin all those white women.
either way the system of white supremacy will take you down even if you do talk down on your own people to try to save yourself
 

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So what convinces you of Bill Cosby's guilt?
In 2000 and 2005 two different women reported to police that Bill Cosby had sexually assaulted them. Neither of them had any way of knowing about each other or about any of the other cases. Because he was Bill Cosby, the D.A.'s decided not to file charges in either case, even though one admitted that the woman's story seemed legitimate and that when he interviewed Cosby he thought he acted and sounded guilty, he just didn't think he'd be able to beat Cosby's lawyers over a conviction. D.A.'s tend to ignore the majority of rape cases, only 2% of reported rapes end in jail time for the accused.

After the D.A. refused to indict, that second woman sued Cosby in civil court. Cosby was forced to give a deposition. In that deposition, under oath, he admitted:

1. That when the woman complained of being under stress, he had given the woman 3 pills, telling her "these will help you relax", without identifying what the pills were
2. That after she began feeling the effects of the pills he had groped her and digitally penetrated her
3. That when her mother later called him and demanded to know what the pills were, he refused to tell her
4. That (according to him but unproven) the pills were Benadryl. Benadryl is not used to relieve stress but has a well known history in date rape cases as it can make some people especially drowsy and have difficulty resisting

That's all bad enough. But this is the killer part. In that same deposition:

1. Cosby admitted that he had illegally procured Quaaludes for over 20 years after their sale was restricted. We're not talking about the 60s/70s, he did it all the way into the 1990s when women didn't even know what the fukk Quaaludes were.
2. Cosby admitted that he procured the Quaaludes in order to give women to have sex with them.
3. Cosby admitted that he never used the Quaadludes himself
4. When asked whether he gave women Quaaludes without their knowledge, his attorneys stopped the deposition and refused to let him answer the question

That's all Cosby's own words, public record. He admitted a long history of drugging women for sex with illegally procured, regulated drugs. Neither Costand nor the other woman had any way of knowing about all those past accusations when they went the police. What are the chances that a woman would accuse a man of drugging and sexual assault and he would just happen to be a guy who had spent his entire adult life drugging women before sex?


By the time the civil case went to trial, Costand's lawyers had found 13 women who testified that Cosby had drugged and sexually assaulted them. Cases from the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. In at least four of the cases there is documented history of the woman reporting the assault to supervisors or others - one of the allegations was recorded by a reporter in the 1980s but he refused to publish it and another was recorded on videotape by Playboy in 1996 but they also refused to release it. These weren't moneygrubbers, many of them testified anonymously at the time and only one filed her own suit. You don't just find 13 different women willing to testify against someone without there being something there, that's insane. And most of these women - especially the ones who told others publicly in the 1980s, 1996, 2000, and 2005, had no idea the other women existed. How do so many people randomly accuse the same guy of sexual assault? Even that shady doctor who supplied Cosby with the Quaaludes said that he nearly punched Cosby out for sexually mistreating a young female friend of his.

That's just too much evidence. His own words alone indict him. Not just the 60 women who have now come forward. (Also damn, how come 90% of those women look like the same person? You can't tell me he didn't have a clear type that he was targeting.)



And the juelzing in defense isn't actually defense. People saying Cosby could get women? Of COURSE Cosby can get women. Lots of rapists can get women. Ted Bundy was a ladies' man, John Wayne Gacy was involved in creepy wife-swapping and prostitution circles, R. Kelly could have any girl he wanted. Rape isn't about lack of sex for many rapists, it's about power. If it was so easy for Cosby to get women, then why was he procuring illegal drugs to give to women for sex? He didn't take the drugs himself, he wasn't going with women who already had the drugs or had any history of using these drugs for sex, and he kept doing it into the 1980s and 1990s when no one else was touching the shyt. He clearly has a fetish about sexually assaulting drugged women. It's silly to deny that with those kind of receipts.




They had zero physical evidence that man raped anyone. Zero. He gave women qualludes to come down from coke at parties in the 70’s. Qualludes are not roofies and don’t have the effect of roofies. Bill didn’t have to rape anyone. He was the fukking man.:leostare: Look at those pictures from the 70’s, those white women were all over him and he looked indifferent. :mindblown:
Cosby wasn't convicted of all those assaults from the 1970s. Cosby was convicted of drugging and sexually assaulting a woman in 2004.

Cosby did not give women the roofies to "come down from coke". He said under oath in his own deposition that he gave it to them for sex and didn't mention coke once.

And Quaaludes aren't roofies but roofies didn't even hit the market until long after Cosby started his career. There were already references from decades ago of quaaludes being used in date rape because they have sedative and decision and memory impairing effects.

You say that Cosby looked indifferent with White women all around him. Yet he's admitted to quaalude-drugged sex with numerous white women. Think about exactly what that implies.

A lot of rapists don't rape because they "have" to rape to have sex. That's not what it's about. You can be the most popular man on campus and still be a rapist. It's about having a fetish for power and control.
 
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It’s not ok for him to go down.

But why is it we can do the “don’t blame everything on white people, take accountability” game when it comes to criticizing black folks and the hood

but now we can’t say the same about Cosby’s situation. Which he absolutely brought on himself by practicing a vile lifestyle for decades.[/QUOTE]


You're right and if Cos just limited himself to Black women he'd be free right now. But It's more of a men's rights issue than a Black issue. Homie was a Black celebrity celebrities especially back then ate. He was around Hef, I can see why he didn't think he was different. Everybody knew how he moved I guess he didn't want to go the groupie route and fukk bytches after the show and keep it moving he wanted to mentor bytches.

That bring up a great point people got into Robin Givens ass for what she did to Mike Tyson. But she was "discovered" by Bill while at Harvard Medical School and she could've easily copped some clout by saying that he "raped" her but she didn't. She gave him some head he gave her a career; That's the issue.

Again it's not the fact that he fukked it's not the fact that he gave hoes "party drugs" it was that everyone knew what was up and now acting different. One chick claimed she was "raped" at Hef's party but she was underaged and came by herself everyone knew what randoms was supposed to do at Playboy Mansion

Beverly Johnson said he "tried her" and said something like I knew it wasn't coke, because I knew what coke felt like. Ms. Trinidad used to sniff and like her character she once went to Mike Tyson's hotel just to give him some p*ssy unsolicted.


It's like the Mike Tyson rape should he have done it No? But shorty came to the room at 3:00am.
 

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Had a old cat tell me they were killing and jailing all of the black legends so they could get biopic rights for cheap and have all the control. Can't help but feel sad when I think about Cosby and R Kelly in prison as I believe both are innocent in totality. Hopefully they can change some young mens lives in there. I used to hate Cosby for that pound cake speech. But now that I am an educator as well,I realized its not easy pulling black people out of that victimhood coc00n that has been built for us.Its a full time job keeping black people from finger pointing. Fingerpointing is useless unless it comes with a solution and plan of action for yourself.
 

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If I remember things correctly, they brought up the pound cake speech when unsealing his documents.

In my mind, that's their way of saying "You've said what we wanted you to say in the past."

A part of me believes he refused a request and now they are making him learn.
 

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In 2000 and 2005 two different women reported to police that Bill Cosby had sexually assaulted them. Neither of them had any way of knowing about each other or about any of the other cases. Because he was Bill Cosby, the D.A.'s decided not to file charges in either case, even though one admitted that the woman's story seemed legitimate and that when he interviewed Cosby he thought he acted and sounded guilty, he just didn't think he'd be able to beat Cosby's lawyers over a conviction. D.A.'s tend to ignore the majority of rape cases, only 2% of reported rapes end in jail time for the accused.

After the D.A. refused to indict, that second woman sued Cosby in civil court. Cosby was forced to give a deposition. In that deposition, under oath, he admitted:

1. That when the woman complained of being under stress, he had given the woman 3 pills, telling her "these will help you relax", without identifying what the pills were
2. That after she began feeling the effects of the pills he had groped her and digitally penetrated her
3. That when her mother later called him and demanded to know what the pills were, he refused to tell her
4. That (according to him but unproven) the pills were Benadryl. Benadryl is not used to relieve stress but has a well known history in date rape cases as it can make some people especially drowsy and have difficulty resisting

That's all bad enough. But this is the killer part. In that same deposition:

1. Cosby admitted that he had illegally procured Quaaludes for over 20 years after their sale was restricted. We're not talking about the 60s/70s, he did it all the way into the 1990s when women didn't even know what the fukk Quaaludes were.
2. Cosby admitted that he procured the Quaaludes in order to give women to have sex with them.
3. Cosby admitted that he never used the Quaadludes himself
4. When asked whether he gave women Quaaludes without their knowledge, his attorneys stopped the deposition and refused to let him answer the question

That's all Cosby's own words, public record. He admitted a long history of drugging women for sex with illegally procured, regulated drugs. Neither Costand nor the other woman had any way of knowing about all those past accusations when they went the police. What are the chances that a woman would accuse a man of drugging and sexual assault and he would just happen to be a guy who had spent his entire adult life drugging women before sex?


By the time the civil case went to trial, Costand's lawyers had found 13 women who testified that Cosby had drugged and sexually assaulted them. Cases from the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. In at least four of the cases there is documented history of the woman reporting the assault to supervisors or others - one of the allegations was recorded by a reporter in the 1980s but he refused to publish it and another was recorded on videotape by Playboy in 1996 but they also refused to release it. These weren't moneygrubbers, many of them testified anonymously at the time and only one filed her own suit. You don't just find 13 different women willing to testify against someone without there being something there, that's insane. And most of these women - especially the ones who told others publicly in the 1980s, 1996, 2000, and 2005, had no idea the other women existed. How do so many people randomly accuse the same guy of sexual assault? Even that shady doctor who supplied Cosby with the Quaaludes said that he nearly punched Cosby out for sexually mistreating a young female friend of his.

That's just too much evidence. His own words alone indict him. Not just the 60 women who have now come forward. (Also damn, how come 90% of those women look like the same person? You can't tell me he didn't have a clear type that he was targeting.)



And the juelzing in defense isn't actually defense. People saying Cosby could get women? Of COURSE Cosby can get women. Lots of rapists can get women. Ted Bundy was a ladies' man, John Wayne Gacy was involved in creepy wife-swapping and prostitution circles, R. Kelly could have any girl he wanted. Rape isn't about lack of sex for many rapists, it's about power. If it was so easy for Cosby to get women, then why was he procuring illegal drugs to give to women for sex? He didn't take the drugs himself, he wasn't going with women who already had the drugs or had any history of using these drugs for sex, and he kept doing it into the 1980s and 1990s when no one else was touching the shyt. He clearly has a fetish about sexually assaulting drugged women. It's silly to deny that with those kind of receipts.





Cosby wasn't convicted of all those assaults from the 1970s. Cosby was convicted of drugging and sexually assaulting a woman in 2004.

Cosby did not give women the roofies to "come down from coke". He said under oath in his own deposition that he gave it to them for sex and didn't mention coke once.

And Quaaludes aren't roofies but roofies didn't even hit the market until long after Cosby started his career. There were already references from decades ago of quaaludes being used in date rape because they have sedative and decision and memory impairing effects.

You say that Cosby looked indifferent with White women all around him. Yet he's admitted to quaalude-drugged sex with numerous white women. Think about exactly what that implies.

A lot of rapists don't rape because they "have" to rape to have sex. That's not what it's about. You can be the most popular man on campus and still be a rapist. It's about having a fetish for power and control.
The problem is evidence. The Fact that the D.A. fell back is an indictment on the legal system because when a cac cop kills a nikka they usually either straight up refuse to try the case or do some kind of Grand Jury to co-sign what they want to do either way. And when they don't try the case or charge it a way to basically throw the case We accept it.

If dude was guilty in 2000, 2004 or whenever an investigation should've been done and he should've been tried then when there was possible Physical evidence But to take a case to trial now for political purposes is insane.

To get Cosby you'll never get Trump because when those chicks sue him he'll never agree to a deposition because no one will trust that a depo will be unsealed at a later date. To get one nikka you fukked it up for a million rapists.

To keep it funky the reason why D.A's don't take most rape cases is because they're messy, chicks back up on their stories all the time even when a dude is really guilty.
 
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