Bill Cosby grants interview from prison. Talks regrets of pound cake speech, proclaims innocence.

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You don't need to be nikkadamus to know that Weinstein is about to walk. When Bill was going to trial there was a story almost every day until the trial, Protests outside the courthouse all of that. Weinstein was hemmed up years ago and still no trail yet we did hear that there was some "problems" with one or two of his accusers stories (I'm talking about the ones who are going to testify) They even got one of his victims to shut up by putting out her UA rape.

Dude's got Brafman the jew lawyer who'll destroy your case like the Hoyas. He got Diddy off and they recovered the gun at the scene
 

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The problem is evidence. The Fact that the D.A. fell back is an indictment on the legal system because when a cac cop kills a nikka they usually either straight up refuse to try the case or do some kind of Grand Jury to co-sign what they want to do either way. And when they don't try the case or charge it a way to basically throw the case We accept it.

If dude was guilty in 2000, 2004 or whenever an investigation should've been done and he should've been tried then when there was possible Physical evidence But to take a case to trial now for political purposes is insane.

To get Cosby you'll never get Trump because when those chicks sue him he'll never agree to a deposition because no one will trust that a depo will be unsealed at a later date. To get one nikka you fukked it up for a million rapists.

To keep it funky the reason why D.A's don't take most rape cases is because they're messy, chicks back up on their stories all the time even when a dude is really guilty.
What are you even talking about "physical evidence"? He admitted under oath to drugging her. He admitted to groping and digitally penetrating her. What possible physical evidence do you think would have made the case any different in 2004?

You're right about rape cases though. I was showing earlier how only 2% of men accused of rape ever serve jail time. Even when the women report, most of the time the D.A. don't take the case, and most of the time they do take the case they don't get a conviction, and most of the time they get a conviction they still don't serve time. Rape cases have the worst conviction rates of any felony.
 

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I mentioned marry a white person and move into a white neighborhood because that's what the average disciple of respectability politics does. :mjpls:They are brainwashed and deluded enough to look at the world as a fair equal place and they think black people in poverty are choosing to get left behind. :duck:

But once you are on a Cosby level, marrying a white woman would actually be to his detriment. Think about it, do you really really think Obama would have got elected if he was married to a cac? fukk no. :what:

The number one rule of respectability politics that whites abide by is don't fukk with white women. :ufdup:This is why Cosby is in jail. If all of Cosby's victims were black women, grown women, he would not be in prison. :usure:The only reason R Kelly in jail because he was a pedophile, he'd be free if he only victimized grown black women the way Cosby allegedly did whiteys.

I'm not here to shyt on Cosby legacy. shyt, I wear Coogi sweaters so much more because cacs get mad because they associate Coogi sweaters with Cosby more than Biggie even though Cosby :lolbron:never actually wore a damn Coogi in his life. But leave it up to cacs to ignore the details and run off feelings of prejudice. :hhh:

I think its horrible that white folks destroyed Cosby legacy. But let's be real, Bill regret repping respectability politics so hard now that he's sees that wealth privilege is also a lie being locked up like any old regular wrongfully accused black man.:usure:

This guy may disagree

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What are you even talking about "physical evidence"? He admitted under oath to drugging her. He admitted to groping and digitally penetrating her. What possible physical evidence do you think would have made the case any different in 2004?

You're right about rape cases though. I was showing earlier how only 2% of men accused of rape ever serve jail time. Even when the women report, most of the time the D.A. don't take the case, and most of the time they do take the case they don't get a conviction, and most of the time they get a conviction they still don't serve time. Rape cases have the worst conviction rates of any felony.


You know when you get arrested you get Mirandized i.e. You have the right to remain sllent anywords you say maybe used against you in a court of law.

Basically Cosby got the opposite They told him Just tell us what happened and we won't use it to convict you. It's the similar to a Grand Jury investigation where you can't plead the fifth.

Again I'm talking about the law, If they tell you to self snitch and they won't convict then they do that's a bigger problem than a situation where a chick going over a nikka's house in the middle of the night.
 

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What are you even talking about "physical evidence"? He admitted under oath to drugging her. He admitted to groping and digitally penetrating her. What possible physical evidence do you think would have made the case any different in 2004?

You're right about rape cases though. I was showing earlier how only 2% of men accused of rape ever serve jail time. Even when the women report, most of the time the D.A. don't take the case, and most of the time they do take the case they don't get a conviction, and most of the time they get a conviction they still don't serve time. Rape cases have the worst conviction rates of any felony.
BTW I what I mean by Physical evidence I mean just that.

There's a reason why they tell women not to wash when raped. Semen and Hairs prove sexual contact happened, I don't know how but tears on the vagina means it's rape (or something like that) Even though women sometimes get wet they can tell the difference between a rape and consent.

What you're saying is get a nikka to confess and that's all the evidence you need. The Innocence Project says otherwise, Nikkas get tripped up in interrogation rooms all the time.
 

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We tried to warn him...:manny: but it's the black youth that is the problem not saying nothing about the white men in the shadows targeting us for bullshyt, bet you he believes it now...:mjpls:



that's my thing as well, he's only covering half of our struggles as if everything that happens to Black people is Black peoples faults.

Why doesn't he talk about the white supremacist country that we live in and everything it's done to Blacks and is still doing to Blacks in this country till this day.
 

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You know when you get arrested you get Mirandized i.e. You have the right to remain sllent anywords you say maybe used against you in a court of law.

Basically Cosby got the opposite They told him Just tell us what happened and we won't use it to convict you. It's the similar to a Grand Jury investigation where you can't plead the fifth.

Again I'm talking about the law, If they tell you to self snitch and they won't convict then they do that's a bigger problem than a situation where a chick going over a nikka's house in the middle of the night.
I'm not talking about the law. I'm talking about whether or not I think he's guilty. From all that shyt I showed earlier including his own words it looks like he's guilty as fukk, and not just of that one but of dozens of them. Why the hell you think his lawyer shut him up halfway through? I wasn't giving my opinion on a legal verdict.

All I was saying is that I think he was guilty, but that doesn't take away acknowledging all the good shyt he did for American culture and exposing positive Black examples to mainstream media. People can be scumbags in their personal lives and still have positive effects in their public life.





BTW I what I mean by Physical evidence I mean just that.

There's a reason why they tell women not to wash when raped. Semen and Hairs prove sexual contact happened, I don't know how but tears on the vagina means it's rape (or something like that) Even though women sometimes get wet they can tell the difference between a rape and consent.

What you're saying is get a nikka to confess and that's all the evidence you need. The Innocence Project says otherwise, Nikkas get tripped up in interrogation rooms all the time.
I'm confused. He admits to digitally penetrating her after he gave her pills. That's no interrogation-room trip-up, he has NEVER denied that he did such a thing. And he was convicted of digitally penetrating her after he gave her pills.

Even if she walked into the police station the moment she woke up, what physical evidence could they find that would convince you? Why would there be tears in the vagina from him twiddling his finger around while she was drugged up?
 

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Thry made an example of him. Sad shyt all around. Drugging women is a no no though. Can’t defend that.
 

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In 2000 and 2005 two different women reported to police that Bill Cosby had sexually assaulted them. Neither of them had any way of knowing about each other or about any of the other cases. Because he was Bill Cosby, the D.A.'s decided not to file charges in either case, even though one admitted that the woman's story seemed legitimate and that when he interviewed Cosby he thought he acted and sounded guilty, he just didn't think he'd be able to beat Cosby's lawyers over a conviction. D.A.'s tend to ignore the majority of rape cases, only 2% of reported rapes end in jail time for the accused.

After the D.A. refused to indict, that second woman sued Cosby in civil court. Cosby was forced to give a deposition. In that deposition, under oath, he admitted:

1. That when the woman complained of being under stress, he had given the woman 3 pills, telling her "these will help you relax", without identifying what the pills were
2. That after she began feeling the effects of the pills he had groped her and digitally penetrated her
3. That when her mother later called him and demanded to know what the pills were, he refused to tell her
4. That (according to him but unproven) the pills were Benadryl. Benadryl is not used to relieve stress but has a well known history in date rape cases as it can make some people especially drowsy and have difficulty resisting

That's all bad enough. But this is the killer part. In that same deposition:

1. Cosby admitted that he had illegally procured Quaaludes for over 20 years after their sale was restricted. We're not talking about the 60s/70s, he did it all the way into the 1990s when women didn't even know what the fukk Quaaludes were.
2. Cosby admitted that he procured the Quaaludes in order to give women to have sex with them.
3. Cosby admitted that he never used the Quaadludes himself
4. When asked whether he gave women Quaaludes without their knowledge, his attorneys stopped the deposition and refused to let him answer the question

That's all Cosby's own words, public record. He admitted a long history of drugging women for sex with illegally procured, regulated drugs. Neither Costand nor the other woman had any way of knowing about all those past accusations when they went the police. What are the chances that a woman would accuse a man of drugging and sexual assault and he would just happen to be a guy who had spent his entire adult life drugging women before sex?


By the time the civil case went to trial, Costand's lawyers had found 13 women who testified that Cosby had drugged and sexually assaulted them. Cases from the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. In at least four of the cases there is documented history of the woman reporting the assault to supervisors or others - one of the allegations was recorded by a reporter in the 1980s but he refused to publish it and another was recorded on videotape by Playboy in 1996 but they also refused to release it. These weren't moneygrubbers, many of them testified anonymously at the time and only one filed her own suit. You don't just find 13 different women willing to testify against someone without there being something there, that's insane. And most of these women - especially the ones who told others publicly in the 1980s, 1996, 2000, and 2005, had no idea the other women existed. How do so many people randomly accuse the same guy of sexual assault? Even that shady doctor who supplied Cosby with the Quaaludes said that he nearly punched Cosby out for sexually mistreating a young female friend of his.

That's just too much evidence. His own words alone indict him. Not just the 60 women who have now come forward. (Also damn, how come 90% of those women look like the same person? You can't tell me he didn't have a clear type that he was targeting.)



And the juelzing in defense isn't actually defense. People saying Cosby could get women? Of COURSE Cosby can get women. Lots of rapists can get women. Ted Bundy was a ladies' man, John Wayne Gacy was involved in creepy wife-swapping and prostitution circles, R. Kelly could have any girl he wanted. Rape isn't about lack of sex for many rapists, it's about power. If it was so easy for Cosby to get women, then why was he procuring illegal drugs to give to women for sex? He didn't take the drugs himself, he wasn't going with women who already had the drugs or had any history of using these drugs for sex, and he kept doing it into the 1980s and 1990s when no one else was touching the shyt. He clearly has a fetish about sexually assaulting drugged women. It's silly to deny that with those kind of receipts.





Cosby wasn't convicted of all those assaults from the 1970s. Cosby was convicted of drugging and sexually assaulting a woman in 2004.

Cosby did not give women the roofies to "come down from coke". He said under oath in his own deposition that he gave it to them for sex and didn't mention coke once.

And Quaaludes aren't roofies but roofies didn't even hit the market until long after Cosby started his career. There were already references from decades ago of quaaludes being used in date rape because they have sedative and decision and memory impairing effects.

You say that Cosby looked indifferent with White women all around him. Yet he's admitted to quaalude-drugged sex with numerous white women. Think about exactly what that implies.

A lot of rapists don't rape because they "have" to rape to have sex. That's not what it's about. You can be the most popular man on campus and still be a rapist. It's about having a fetish for power and control.
Thanks for the reply. I don't agree with your interpretation of the facts but at least you are coming with facts rather than just blindly putting out statements.

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Brock Turner is a free man while Bill Cosby is rotting. And nikkas are up in here defending them under the guise of fairness but don’t take in account all the high profile sex assault cases by cacs and never see jail time. fukk all you c00ns justifying Cosby being jail. fukk those white hoes too.
 

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I'm not talking about the law. I'm talking about whether or not I think he's guilty. From all that shyt I showed earlier including his own words it looks like he's guilty as fukk, and not just of that one but of dozens of them. Why the hell you think his lawyer shut him up halfway through? I wasn't giving my opinion on a legal verdict.

All I was saying is that I think he was guilty, but that doesn't take away acknowledging all the good shyt he did for American culture and exposing positive Black examples to mainstream media. People can be scumbags in their personal lives and still have positive effects in their public life.

Like you said Rape is a hard thing to be convicted of and there's a reason for that. I mean you could move the goalposts legally to any sex that women don't want after the fact is rape too but that would have repercussions for society.




I'm confused. He admits to digitally penetrating her after he gave her pills. That's no interrogation-room trip-up, he has NEVER denied that he did such a thing. And he was convicted of digitally penetrating her after he gave her pills.

Even if she walked into the police station the moment she woke up, what physical evidence could they find that would convince you? Why would there be tears in the vagina from him twiddling his finger around while she was drugged up?

Look I don't know exactly how they prove rape from consensual sex but there's been a standard that has been agreed upon, All I'm saying is lets stick to that to avoid slippery slopes and even having common sense prevail.

You know kidnapping especially of children used to be an automatic death sentence till they changed it.
 

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Giving the speech where he gave it was mostly calling out Black organizations and leadership for paying lip service to trying to reverse the negative trends in the community. They were the first ones to get offended because he was pulling their cards.

I disagree here. He has never attacked Black organizations. He attacks what he sees as negative behavior in the Black community. To be honest, I know where Cosby was coming from despite the poorer parts of the delivery. The reason I think a lot of Black folks didn't like that speech though is they saw it giving a battery pack to reactionary forces who blame things like Trayvon Martin on Black cultural issues and want to justify anything/wash their hands of us. In this context appearing on Bill O'Reilly was probably a mistake. 90% of White folks who remember the speech and quote it don't know or give a damn about his tour or work afterwards. That isn't Cosby's fault, but it is context.

If the same speech had been primarily only circulating amongst Black folks and not blown up in the majority media, I doubt there would have been real controversy.

In any case he addressed this and even got Cornel West's backing in a 2004 interview with Tavis Smiley


Bill Cosby Interview on the Tavis Smiley Show May 26, 2004 (transcript)


Excerpts:

Cosby: The mistake I made was not in clarifying that I wasn't talking about “all.” I think that unless it's later on, I think I said prior to this, the 50% dropout. I think I said that prior to this, “50% dropout in school.” Very, very important, because with that, that means 50% of our African American males, from grade 9 through 12, in certain parts of the city, have no education.

Now I'm also listening to what is a new language, and it's a new language in the area, and it's only good for the people you come in contact living in that area. It's no good on Wall Street. It's no good at Temple University. It's no good filing and understanding an employment waiver or blank.

What I'm saying here, and the mistake I made was… In saying that there are people who are striving and working in the lower economic area, the people who are not holding up their end is quite obvious to me. And that happens to be those people who don't have a clue in terms of what education, learning standard English, math, and graduating from school, what that has for them in terms of empowerment.

Tavis: But there are a lot of folk who say that, because Cosby said it, the right wing is gonna take it and use it as ammunition--

Cosby: I don't give me a blank about those right-wing white people! They can't do any more to us than they've already started with. They can't try to throw us back any farther than they've tried to throw us back. And they're doing a very good job of it.

But by the same token, for God's sake, turn around and let's have some meetings and say, “Brother, um, let me explain to you. You're the father of so-forth and so-on. Brother, you gotta rein them in, man. You gotta go talk to 'em.” “Oh, what do I do, man? I got a son, he won't listen to me, but--” “Well, hey, brother, that's your son.”


Cornel West chimed in...

Cornel West: And there's no doubt in my mind, when you look at who Cosby is, where he comes from in Philadelphia, that he's speaking out of great compassion and trying to get folk to get on the right track, 'cause we've got some brothers and sisters who are not doing the right things, just like in times in our own lives, we don't do the right thing. We need to be corrected lovingly.

He is trying to speak honestly and freely and lovingly, and I think that's a very positive thing. We know Bill Cosby's not on the right wing. He's not Clarence Thomas, he's not Ward Connelly. We know him to be someone who, over 50 years, his 40 years in his artistic career, to be in deep solidarity with the black people's struggle, and people's struggle as a whole.
 
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What are you even talking about "physical evidence"? He admitted under oath to drugging her. He admitted to groping and digitally penetrating her. What possible physical evidence do you think would have made the case any different in 2004?

You're right about rape cases though. I was showing earlier how only 2% of men accused of rape ever serve jail time. Even when the women report, most of the time the D.A. don't take the case, and most of the time they do take the case they don't get a conviction, and most of the time they get a conviction they still don't serve time. Rape cases have the worst conviction rates of any felony.

False.
 
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