Bill Maher and Cornel West arguing about voting for Hillary Clinton

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Dr. West is correct that Hillary is a neo-liebral and Shshe will owe the big money interests in her administration.

Barney Frank is also correct that you need to have balance of outsiders and insiders of DC to get policy done.

Alex Wagner made the great point that liberals/progressives are terrible at running for office at local and state levels... if you want to get healthcare and minimum wage up, win state houses and governor mansions.
She ignores the fact that the reason they are so terrible is because of the money in politics. Whenever a progressive candidate runs, they are up against both the republican and democratic establishment.
 

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that your neoliberalism created :umad:

neoliberal policies + identity politics is the mainstream Democratic party. That shyt created Trump and will create many more :mjlol:

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You need bipartisan support to spiral the black family; up and further down like good head.
 

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One of my main problems with Bernie was that he didn't believe in his own movement enough to not run as an independent, then he sharks the Dems for resources, which is a fukking SNAKE thing to do, then when he loses (cause the Wikileaks forms didn't show any wrong doing) he runs back to being an independent

Yeah Bernie, the DNC wasn't gonna bet it all on a race horse they've never used before and no amount of hype is changing that calculus.

It's not that he didn't believe in it, it's just that he knew he couldn't get that huge media push he needed by being an independent. Now that he has lost, he is going back...which pretty much means he won't be pushing his progressive platform anymore...which is sad...

Like I keep saying...Bernie tried to do the exact same thing that Trump did to the republicans...it's just that the dems had to seasoned a candidate...where the republicans had low energy, lying ted, and little marco...
 

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I dunno. I kinda agree with him. Im not voting period, and I don't buy the liberal scare tactics about a trump presidency.
 

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Cornel had them all tight as fukk :russ:

I don't even like him that much, but he won this argument easily :salute:

It's nonsense how the Democrat establishment don't seem to understand that the population of Bernie supporters that are not voting for Hillary were not Democrats in the first place. It's a huge waste of time and energy. Leftists never gonna feel Hillary :yeshrug:
 
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