Robert Horry breh?
Bill Russell is the GOAT (EDIT: Phil Jackson would choose him over Jordan)
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on most of those championship celtic squads russell led the team in rebounds (by a wide margin) but he was usually like 4th or 5th in scoring, 2nd or 3rd in assists.
on the championship bulls teams, jordan always led the team in scoring (by a wide margin), was always 2nd in assists, and about 3rd or 4th in rebounding.
all due respect to russell but scoring is more important than rebounding. the world's best scorer is more valuable than the world's best rebounder.
on the championship bulls teams, jordan always led the team in scoring (by a wide margin), was always 2nd in assists, and about 3rd or 4th in rebounding.
all due respect to russell but scoring is more important than rebounding. the world's best scorer is more valuable than the world's best rebounder.
This dude made a thread calling as a Celtic homer Bill Russell the GOAT. Not Larry Bird, but fukking Bill Russell.
I don't think Bill Russell is the greatest ever either, but it's not like he isn't one of the greatest to ever do it. But then again maybe you're just one of the many people on here who lack any knowledge in any NBA history before 1985
It is but you can't use that as a reason to say he's betterIs West the goat cause he's the NBA logo
That's one reason out the many I gave.
West being the logo is not an adequate comparison because the NBA would be dumb as hell to change its logo (for business/marketing purposes) for each great superstar. If the league could change its logo without losing brand recognition, I'm sure it would've by now. The Finals MVP trophy was a previously unnamed accolade and the league decided in 2009, out of all of the HOFers that played in the league, to name it after Russell. As explained, the NBA didn't give out a FMVP until Russell's final season. The fact that they named it after Russell (and not the record holder) is very telling. In essence, naming the FMVP trophy after Russell is the league compensating Russell for his years of dominance in the Finals that went uncredited.
Robert Horry breh?
Perhaps I took it too far with that comparison but the point remains that Jordan was not the first option on offense nor was he that team's best player.
What does that have to do with one being better than the other
Nevermind breh
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Ya think?
Offense wins games. Defense wins championships. Case in point: Russell and the Boston Celtics.
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It's obvious Bill Russell is the Greatest player ever
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What does that have to do with one being better than the other
Nevermind breh
OK, one more time: The FMVP goes to the best individual player of the NBA Finals. The FMVP didn't exist until Russell's final season. Russell went to 12 finals and won 11 championships (mainly because of his play). Jordan, who played long afterwards, became the record-holder with 6 FMVPs. The fact that the NBA (Stern), after both players had long retired, decided to name the trophy after Russell (not Jordan, the record holder) denotes that the league considers Russell the best individual performer in the Finals in the league's history. Otherwise, why wouldn't the record holder have it named after him? Thus, one can easily deduce that had the FMVP trophy existed during Russell's time, he would've won just as many (if not more) than Jordan.
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bulls were the best defensive team in the league too. 6 rings buddy.
- bill russell walked onto a team that already had bob cousy on it, the league MVP.
- jordan walked onto a bottom feeder. a desolate franchise with no other good players.
i wonder how many rings jordan would have won if the bulls already had moses malone in 84
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rebounding is more important than scoring?
i'm sorry does the scoreboard measure points or rebounds?
Do you not know that the Celtics never went to the NBA Finals BEFORE Russell joined? When Russell arrived, the Celtics started winning (he won in his rookie year). This is obvious.