With all the fugazi shyt people did before with the shipping, not sold, buying own cds and giving them out, or trashing them etc. That didn’t really matter cause you’re only fooling a list. Same with digital sales, it’s just pointless lists only wild stans and industry people care about in 2025. But with streams, you are stealing money from other artists . Cause the pie is there, streams just determine who gets what slice. Which is fukked up and hopefully charged in court for fraud
Billboard announces new rules for digital sales and prices
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smooth round numbers every week and beating drake by 500 albums randomly
this shyt is all fake
nikka selling Cassettes like it’s 1995 in BIG 2025
CASSETTES, Vinyl with Multiple(White, Black, Blue) variants by color and weight… yet Drake is the one manipulating the numbers.
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spliz
SplizThaDon
To even remotely insinuate physicals are easier to manipulate than streams is pure retarded. It’s not even worth a response. fukk physicals tho. Actual PURCHASES. Even digital. She actually SELLS more.
nicki just follows Travis.They need to just look at what Travis and Nicki Minaj do, and set the rules above that and everything is covered
Pure Water
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nikka selling Cassettes like it’s 1995 in BIG 2025
The cassettes are $20. 2.4x more than the requirement. What probably selling the most out of the physicals are the vinyls.
Pure Water
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While streams are easy to manipulate, so are physicals. Both are really easy to manipulate.
Drake (not saying that he did) is rich enough to where if he wanted to purchase 50k copies of his album across different distributions, it would be nothing to him.
spliz
SplizThaDon
Streams have no business being counted as sales whatsoever. I can steal an album tomorrow and listen to it 5,000 times. That don't mean I bought it. I can buy and album and only listen to it once. Or not listen to it at all. I still bought the shyt.
Pure Water
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It's just the new way of the world. People do not buy music anymore. Billboard is also not about to give up their bread and butter either. Regarding your analogy with stealing an album and listening to it 5k times, it's not the same. People do pay for the streaming services. You pay 10-20 dollars a month to listen to an unlimited amount of music. It makes sense for Billboard to count a certain amount of streams as a purchase. A single person streaming one album often doesn't even equate one album sale (1500 streams = 1 album sale).
The numbers makes sense to me. People are going to game the system, but people have always gamed the system.
iliketurtles
Do Right And Kill Everything
Shambles. Drake changing the game
iliketurtles
Do Right And Kill Everything
Lol kbot has been selling 15k for the past 3 months shyt is botted. If your gonna back an industry plant atleast do it with a good artist
spliz
SplizThaDon
Son I been streaming since the Zune so it ain’t nothing new to me. Streaming was always a convenience thing. It’s a retarded practice to make it replace actually buying music. They make it harder for people to find and buy music at this point. My analogy is great. Cause it’s essentially saying the amount of times u listen to a song counts as a sale. That’s stupid. We pay $10.99 a month for access to unlimited music. ONE album cost more than that when sales mattered. And I’m supposed to compare these new cat’s “sales” to people who actually sold music? fukk outta here. It’s all a scam. U don’t own it cause u ain’t buying it. They can remove it from streaming tomorrow. Change songs around. Change lyrics. All kinda shyt within the drop of a hat and u have ZERO control over it. shyt it was real bad when cats like Jay Z didn’t even allow his music on certain streaming platforms. The music industry is the only industry who counts streaming as a sale. nikkas is making up rules as they go, that’s why they keep changing, there was def cheating in the physical era. But all in all. A sale was still a sale. Somebody actually bought that shyt. All comparisons with these artists to the past and “broken records” are stupid af. That’s why it’s barely any superstars now. People tend to care more about an artist they actually invest in.
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New rules wiped out NAV album from 82k of fake sales to 18k. Weeknd was lucky to spot before these rules took effect.
I saw that,
I was like how is Nav doing 80k with 70k of them being sales and 12k streaming, having a bigger debut than Durk who had 1k sales and 63k streaming. I was thinking that the split should be quite similar between those artists, and of course...
I don't get it, if you make money like Travis with his bundles I kinda get it. That's 100 bucks a piece for a cheap shirt is crazy money when you sell 400k of them, and promoting them with an album is good business. But should not be counted as album sales. But this other shyt that Nicki Minaj, Nav and them do is for no other reason than to boost their ego. Do they even make money from applying those tricks. Or like Sza releasing a new album as the deluxe. That's almost like hustling backwards if that doesn't mean that you've added a new album under your contract.
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