Bismack Biyombo

[USSInsiders]

If you're starting a team who would you take 1st Biyombo or Whiteside?

Jesus christ. This bum is feasting on teams without true physical bigs and now people seriously have to debate whether a freakishly young and talented (albeit braindead) center with tremendous upside is a better option versus a a better-looking Joel Anthony with equally horrendous hands. Also forgetting the fact he's actually about 28 years old

 

[Malta]

Jesus christ. This bum is feasting on teams without true physical bigs and now people seriously have to debate whether a freakishly young and talented (albeit braindead) center with tremendous upside is a better option versus a a better-looking Joel Anthony with equally horrendous hands. Also forgetting the fact he's actually about 28 years old

You should have said Theo Ratliff


Biyombo is elite defensively, something Joel Anthony never was.

 

[USSInsiders]

You should have said Theo Ratliff


Biyombo is elite defensively, something Joel Anthony never was.

This thread is a massive overreaction. He had a nice game. He's still the same guy he's always been: good shot-blocker, zero offensive game, horrible hands, piss poor free throw shooter (although it appears he's improved a little bit) and he's 28. Of course some dumb team will pay him a lot of money since salaries are going up, but it's not him getting better it's just him being on the national stage and the league being diluted of bigs that play his type of game.

Cavs in 5

 

[IGSaint12]

He's going to the Spurs.

Popovich is going to use his CIA specialty to convince him to sign or they'll find his forged papers and get him deported

Conley
Clarkson
Leonard
Aldridge
Biyombo

 

[NoMorePie]

Lemme just be a really sad. Optimistic spurs fan ​

 

[Tha Gawd Amen]

Hornets let him go cause he offered nothing offensively for the system they want to run now. Dude can't pass, shoot, or do much of anything on the low block. Still hated to see him go but it's whatever.

 

[Malta]

This thread is a massive overreaction. He had a nice game. He's still the same guy he's always been: good shot-blocker, zero offensive game, horrible hands, piss poor free throw shooter (although it appears he's improved a little bit) and he's 28. Of course some dumb team will pay him a lot of money since salaries are going up, but it's not him getting better it's just him being on the national stage and the league being diluted of bigs that play his type of game.

Cavs in 5

He played well all season and he had more than just a "nice game" the Cavs have been the 2nd best rebounding team in the playoffs and owned the glass against the Pistons who have the best rebounder in the league. He's still the same guy? You mean an elite rim protector, because that's what he's been for a minute now. 28 is still prime age if that's what he turns out to be It's not an overreaction to give someone props for a hell of a game, get that bitterness out your heart

 

[tangerine]

wish clips signed this man instead of

 

[USSInsiders]

He played well all season and he had more than just a "nice game" the Cavs have been the 2nd best rebounding team in the playoffs and owned the glass against the Pistons who have the best rebounder in the league. He's still the same guy? You mean an elite rim protector, because that's what he's been for a minute now. 28 is still prime age if that's what he turns out to be It's not an overreaction to give someone props for a hell of a game, get that bitterness out your heart

I won some money thanks to the Raptors performance today because I expected the Raps to bounce-back thanks to being home, but overreactions, especially stupid ones, annoy me. All I saw was the tallest most physical rebounder on the floor getting tons of easy defensive boards because the cavs were triggering and missing lots of perimeter jumpers. There were maybe a handful of sequences where Biyombo made nice offensive boards and got fouled going up, which he should've kicked out and reset anyway.

A rock-handed rim protector is not all that valuable in this era right now. ]This is the same team that got lit up by 20+ points in back to back games and now all of a sudden the Cavs go into chill mode for a game and let the Raps win and we need to give a massive contract to a guy who's not going to get any better and his lying about his age. I just don't get it, but hey, overreactions are a coli tradition and I'm not gonna get in the way of that.

 

[big bun]

SMH at the overrating of Biyombo in here. Y'all need to quit.

 

[Regular_P]

Campaigned for him to be signed by the Knicks when nobody was even touching him last July.

I was doing the same for the Lakers. Instead, they gave Lou Williams 3/$21 million and traded for that bum Hibbert and his max contract.

 

[Malta]

I won some money thanks to the Raptors performance today because I expected the Raps to bounce-back thanks to being home, but overreactions, especially stupid ones, annoy me. All I saw was the tallest most physical rebounder on the floor getting tons of easy defensive boards because the cavs were triggering and missing lots of perimeter jumpers. There were maybe a handful of sequences where Biyombo made nice offensive boards and got fouled going up, which he should've kicked out and reset anyway.

A rock-handed rim protector is not all that valuable in this era right now. ]This is the same team that got lit up by 20+ points in back to back games and now all of a sudden the Cavs go into chill mode for a game and let the Raps win and we need to give a massive contract to a guy who's not going to get any better and his lying about his age. I just don't get it, but hey, overreactions are a coli tradition and I'm not gonna get in the way of that.

So, you gonna mention how you won money but not let anyone hold $10?

He wasn't the tallest player on the floor, he and Tristan are the same height, and Tristan is one of the best rebounders in the league. It's not an "overreaction" to simply acknowledge a great game by someone, everything in this thread is factual, he is statistically one of the best rebounders & defenders in the league and he could / will start for another team. He had 8 offensive rebounds against a team that typically doesn't give up 2nd chances, cot damn.


He was going to get a contract before this game, he started 22 games this season and averaged 7/12/2 60% while providing elite defense, you say there's no place for a dude like this in the league and you're wrong, he'd be the starting center on several teams and immediately improve their defense. If he couldn't make freethrows then yeah you'd have a point about him not being the type of player to have anymore, but he can at a rate that makes it not worth fouling him therefore you can leave him on the floor in close games. You acting like anyone called him a top 10 center

 

[USSInsiders]

So, you gonna mention how you won money but not let anyone hold $10?

He wasn't the tallest player on the floor, he and Tristan are the same height, and Tristan is one of the best rebounders in the league. It's not an "overreaction" to simply acknowledge a great game by someone, everything in this thread is factual, he is statistically one of the best rebounders & defenders in the league and he could / will start for another team. He had 8 offensive rebounds against a team that typically doesn't give up 2nd chances, cot damn.


He was going to get a contract before this game, he started 22 games this season and averaged 7/12/2 60% while providing elite defense, you say there's no place for a dude like this in the league and you're wrong, he'd be the starting center on several teams and immediately improve their defense. If he couldn't make freethrows then yeah you'd have a point about him not being the type of player to have anymore, but he can at a rate that makes it not worth fouling him therefore you can leave him on the floor in close games. You acting like anyone called him a top 10 center

Sadly, the league's big men talent pool is so shallow I could see someone legitimately saying he's a top 10 center. Also read more carefully. I said, "A rock-handed rim protector is not all that valuable in this era right now." There's always a place for guys like Biyombo. When Valuncacness went down, he was the next man up and raped a Heat team that lacked a true center. He had fukking bum ass Justise Winslow d'ing him up in game 7.

You never know when you'll need a rebounding, shot-blocking energy guy like Biyombo, but the league is in a much different place, so I don't think a guy like Biyombo is as valuable as he would've been in an era of isoball. Pace and space is the trendy thing so when we see bigs like Whiteside and Biyombo playing prominent roles it exposes the short memories that people have.

A center that blocks shots and rebounds and doesn't shoot jumpers! Let's give him $20 a year :gladbron

 

[Malta]

Sadly, the league's big men talent pool is so shallow I could see someone legitimately saying he's a top 10 center. Also read more carefully. I said, "A rock-handed rim protector is not all that valuable in this era right now." There's always a place for guys like Biyombo. When Valuncacness went down, he was the next man up and raped a Heat team that lacked a true center. He had fukking bum ass Justise Winslow d'ing him up in game 7.

You never know when you'll need a rebounding, shot-blocking energy guy like Biyombo, but the league is in a much different place, so I don't think a guy like Biyombo is as valuable as he would've been in an era of isoball. Pace and space is the trendy thing so when we see bigs like Whiteside and Biyombo playing prominent roles it exposes the short memories that people have.

A center that blocks shots and rebounds and doesn't shoot jumpers! Let's give him $20 a year :gladbron

Sorry, but what you're saying does not compute for the simple fact the 3 best teams in the playoffs all have offensively challenged defensive bigs, the key is they are all placed next to a PF that can shoot. The Thunder have Adams, the Warriors have Bogut & Ezeli and the Cavs have Thompson, it's not true to say a guy like Biyombo isn't as valuable in the pace and space era because the absolute best all have the same kind of guy playing at the 5. A big man that can defend on switches and play elite interior defense is still just as valuable, every team today has essentially copied the Sheed + Wallace pairing with one outside big and a defensive guy next to him.


Again, nobody has said he's a top 10 center, he deserves some love for the game he had

 

[USSInsiders]

Sorry, but what you're saying does not compute for the simple fact the 3 best teams in the playoffs all have offensively challenged defensive bigs, the key is they are all placed next to a PF that can shoot. The Thunder have Adams, the Warriors have Bogut & Ezeli and the Cavs have Thompson, it's not true to say a guy like Biyombo isn't as valuable in the pace and space era because the absolute best all have the same kind of guy playing at the 5. A big man that can defend on switches and play elite interior defense is still just as valuable, every team today has essentially copied the Sheed + Wallace pairing with one outside big and a defensive guy next to him.


Again, nobody has said he's a top 10 center, he deserves some love for the game he had

"offensively challenged" Bogut is a brilliant passer, great screen setter, great offensive rebounder, has good hands. He fits their system perfectly with his passing and Ezeli comes off the bench, which is exactly what Biyombo should be as a player, a 6th or 7th man.

"offensively challenged" Steven Adams has emerged as a good screen and roll man and offensive rebounder with pretty damn good touch around the basketball, again, someone with good enough hands that can run simple sets and not jeopardize the offense.

Thompon, yeah, he can't really do jack shyt other than putbacks. Sure all of these guys as bigs have their "challenges" but if we were to make a spectrum of "offensively challenged bigs" in this year's playoffs, Biyombo is at the rock bottom. He has NO hands and can't pass. He can't do anything. His only field goal today was a finish off of a lob in garbage time and a struggle hook in garbage time against no defense.

Bolded is all good and well, but when I'm reading people making posts like "build a team with whiteside or biyombo" or talking about big money, I just have to laugh.