Black barbershops being lied on again.

[Sankofa Alwayz]

I've been to barbershops where the studs cut hair.

These lying fools need to be dragged out back and politely stomped out for this bullshyt.

Almost 40 years on this planet and I've never heard a barber talk that reckless. Too many kids getting cuts in Barbershops at all times of the day.

Be careful lol, goofy nikkas on here might think you’re “homophobic” for saying such things

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

I think the point is that rappers, and maybe current hip hop culture in general, perpetuates some of the most negative stereotypes that exist when it comes to black men, and you don't see many threads about how destructive current hip hop culture is (you see a few, but not many). I think there are a lot of black men who feel so emasculated by society that the hyper masculine/violent/hyper sexual/homophobic persona, that a lot of current rappers have, serves as a security blanket for a collective bruised ego. That's why its so ironic that there would be outrage, on this website, about black men being depicted as hyper masculine, violent, hyper sexual and homophobic. Its as if these extreme characteristics are the last line of defense, for a lot of black men, and to critique these characteristics, eats at that last line of defense. Its almost like, for a lot of you all here, there's nothing wrong with being: hyper masculine, violent, hyper sexual, or homophobic, but there is something wrong with being seen as any of those things. Maybe allowing members of the black community to express their frustrations with straight black men should be looked at as an opportunity to grow, and not as a chipping away at that last line of defense.

How old are you?

 

[BlackMajik]

What kinda garbage ass show?

I can't wait until Atlanta comes back on

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Bruh I've been going to barbershops my whole life and there's no way you'll hear language like that, let alone cussing I'm front of women

It's an unspoken rule in barbershop that you don't cus around kids, women, or older folks.

 

[LurkMoar]

Trash

 

[Piff Perkins]

Do some men talk like that? Yea. Would you hear that type of shyt in the average barber shop, or most? Hell no. If anything the barber shop is one of the few places where storytelling is valued, and brehs would go out their way to describe all that shyt without actually saying anything X-rated. Especially in the presence of a woman in the shop (like that scene), or worse yet a child.

I rarely hear profanity at barber shops. If anything you will hear wild or inappropriate views or opinions, but outright obscene language is rare. I remember brehs in the shop laughing at the Ray Rice video, like it was a Tyson knockout compilation. That shyt was jarring to me. I've heard wild conspiracies or offensive views on shyt. But THAT shyt in the clip? Hell no. Hell if you've gone to a barbershop long enough you've heard a man in the midst of divorcing his wife going over all the shyt she has done to ruin his life WITHOUT him calling her a bytch or saying wild shyt. That's just not how dudes talk about the shop.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

I think the point is that rappers, and maybe current hip hop culture in general, perpetuates some of the most negative stereotypes that exist when it comes to black men, and you don't see many threads about how destructive current hip hop culture is (you see a few, but not many). I think there are a lot of black men who feel so emasculated by society that the hyper masculine/violent/hyper sexual/homophobic persona, that a lot of current rappers have, serves as a security blanket for a collective bruised ego. That's why its so ironic that there would be outrage, on this website, about black men being depicted as hyper masculine, violent, hyper sexual and homophobic. Its as if these extreme characteristics are the last line of defense, for a lot of black men, and to critique these characteristics, eats at that last line of defense. Its almost like, for a lot of you all here, there's nothing wrong with being: hyper masculine, violent, hyper sexual, or homophobic, but there is something wrong with being seen as any of those things. Maybe allowing members of the black community to express their frustrations with straight black men should be looked at as an opportunity to grow, and not as a chipping away at that last line of defense.

 

[Yaboysix]

Ask women who date super butch dykes how they act like a caricature or f Black men just like some of these super femme gay dudes act like caricatures of Black women

Reverse it and put a single straight woman in the space of a bunch of feminine gay men…imagine the things that young Lady will hear…




But yeah… hella exaggerated versions…

 

[Yaboysix]

The only time I heard language like that in a barbershop was when I was getting my hair cut by a lesbian.

Damn!

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

The "let me speak MY truth" when they get called out on se bullshyt. Basically saying "let me lie in peace, please"

 

[Biscayne]

I know yall nikkas aint on a forum with a whole hiphop/rap section and y’all crying about this

This is the least of the black man’s image problems…

This argument would make more sense if there aren’t literally hundreds of threads of riser complaining about the degeneration of hip hop. We can’t complain about multiple things?

 

[Genos]

Brehs will say this is black male misandry then say black women lack accountability

 

[breakfuss]

I think the point is that rappers, and maybe current hip hop culture in general, perpetuates some of the most negative stereotypes that exist when it comes to black men, and you don't see many threads about how destructive current hip hop culture is (you see a few, but not many). I think there are a lot of black men who feel so emasculated by society that the hyper masculine/violent/hyper sexual/homophobic persona, that a lot of current rappers have, serves as a security blanket for a collective bruised ego. That's why its so ironic that there would be outrage, on this website, about black men being depicted as hyper masculine, violent, hyper sexual and homophobic. Its as if these extreme characteristics are the last line of defense, for a lot of black men, and to critique these characteristics, eats at that last line of defense. Its almost like, for a lot of you all here, there's nothing wrong with being: hyper masculine, violent, hyper sexual, or homophobic, but there is something wrong with being seen as any of those things. Maybe allowing members of the black community to express their frustrations with straight black men should be looked at as an opportunity to grow, and not as a chipping away at that last line of defense.

Imma at least give you props for speaking up where you know your take would be unsavory. It's clear rap is a depository for a lot of frustrations among black men. Wrong or right...I'll admit it's cathartic to stunt about who's girl you fukking or how much bread you have or who'll you murk in these imaginary streets. I don't think we should necessarily be glorifying these things but it shouldn't be placed solely at the feet of rap. The media at large is depraved...violence, sex, misogyny or whatever else aren't uniquely "rap problems". Trying to source black plight to a genre of music rings hollow to me.

I understand the point you and @Matt504 are trying to make but it's a cheap shot to do it in a thread where brothers are bothered by the way they're being portrayed in a completely unrelated medium. If you think rap has issues let's discuss it separately from the bs in the OP.

 

[Biscayne]

That's not what I say on here often.

My question is where is this same energy for rap that celebrates the death of Black men, why is THAT entertainment but a barbershop scene is where the line must be drawn, why isn't this also entertainment?

There’s hundreds of threads on here made by black men complaining about degenerate rap made by black men. We can defend our image from multiple angles. When the attack is coming from non-black men(like the barbershop clip in the OP) then these non black men are gonna get our vitriol too.

 

[Piff Perkins]

The "let me speak MY truth" when they get called out on se bullshyt. Basically saying "let me lie in peace, please"

And there it is. So because of these alleged experiences by a small minority of black people, the decision is to portray black barbershops as uncivilized, dangerous spaces for women/gay people/etc. Wild.

This is how agenda writing works and why so many of these black shows and movies are so bad. The art becomes trivial window dressing for the message or agenda. Instead of telling a complete or interesting story, the point is representation for a specific type of black person (gay/queer black man, or single black woman), and condemnation or confrontation with a black trope/stereotype. Usually a straight black man. Often a straight black father.

There’s never anything to truly discuss or question how something made you feel. It’s “this is good, this is bad, react accordingly.” That’s not art. It’s propaganda.