Black Californians on here....

[murksiderock]

well what happened to the Fillmore is happening to Anacostia now.

I heard there was a Black Area in annapolis but the shyt looks lilly white to me I used to work at the Academy for a project commuted from Glen burnie Annapolis was too white for me.

I'll be honest, alot more black people in Annapolis than I thought there'd be....but there are a LOT of white people too

At work today with this dude from PG County, he basically said its too white for him here, and that black people here are in The Sunken Place one brother was repping Annapolis hard, said they call it "Naptown" and PG dude was like man, these guys are just too different for me out here

But to your point, the shyt that happened to Black San Francisco, is happening to a ton of major cities across the nation. Hyper-gentrification, basically Negro Removal. Granted, I don't think most cities are as aggressive with their anti-blackness in today's climate as SF was (they started this shyt back in the 70s), but you can go from DC to Atlanta to St Louis to Chicago to New York to Miami to many other cities and clearly see the attack on historically black neighborhoods.

Fillmore today is like 15% black, but because it's SF, that makes it one of the blackest hoods in the city, one of the places where you at least see "some" black faces. But it is steeped in so much black history and lore, and there are a couple groups fighting to keep the remaining ownership black people have in SF.

I've been racially profiled in SF, treated like an afterthought, so there is some disdain there, but there is some love I have for The City. I would love for black people to come back there but for SF specifically, I think that ship has sailed. It'll never have a notably large black population again, not in our lifetimes, but the remaining black folk there need to hold on to what they have.

And I would say that for the residents of Anacostia and any area across the US that is seeing aggressive gentrification tactics. If black people helped establish what these areas became, don't willfully run into the night. Keep what's ours and build on it!

 

[murksiderock]

@Wiseborn also DC, SF, Boston, and believe it or not, Atlanta, all have this strange kinship that is hard to describe. Like when I'm in one of those four cities, there are aspects that remind me of the others, and it's hard to describe because accents are all different, slang is different, climate is different, landscape is different....but there is something about those 4 cities that is alike.

 

[Wiseborn]

I'll be honest, alot more black people in Annapolis than I thought there'd be....but there are a LOT of white people too

At work today with this dude from PG County, he basically said its too white for him here, and that black people here are in The Sunken Place one brother was repping Annapolis hard, said they call it "Naptown" and PG dude was like man, these guys are just too different for me out here

But to your point, the shyt that happened to Black San Francisco, is happening to a ton of major cities across the nation. Hyper-gentrification, basically Negro Removal. Granted, I don't think most cities are as aggressive with their anti-blackness in today's climate as SF was (they started this shyt back in the 70s), but you can go from DC to Atlanta to St Louis to Chicago to New York to Miami to many other cities and clearly see the attack on historically black neighborhoods.

Fillmore today is like 15% black, but because it's SF, that makes it one of the blackest hoods in the city, one of the places where you at least see "some" black faces. But it is steeped in so much black history and lore, and there are a couple groups fighting to keep the remaining ownership black people have in SF.

I've been racially profiled in SF, treated like an afterthought, so there is some disdain there, but there is some love I have for The City. I would love for black people to come back there but for SF specifically, I think that ship has sailed. It'll never have a notably large black population again, not in our lifetimes, but the remaining black folk there need to hold on to what they have.

And I would say that for the residents of Anacostia and any area across the US that is seeing aggressive gentrification tactics. If black people helped establish what these areas became, don't willfully run into the night. Keep what's ours and build on it!

where did the people move to I heard Oaktown is gone as far as Black People too and even Richmond and Vallejo is under pressure did most Black people bush the state?

Really can´t blame someone who owned property in Fillmore cac offers me 2 million for a house bought for maybe 50K 50 years ago I´d take it too.

 

[Wiseborn]

@Wiseborn also DC, SF, Boston, and believe it or not, Atlanta, all have this strange kinship that is hard to describe. Like when I'm in one of those four cities, there are aspects that remind me of the others, and it's hard to describe because accents are all different, slang is different, climate is different, landscape is different....but there is something about those 4 cities that is alike.

I knew one dude from Sac town in England and he told me that it was getting pretting Mexicanized like Compton was.

I will say compared to the east coast Cali seems way cleaner than the gritty east coast even Annapolis. I knew like one Black chick from Annapolis I know they got hoods but I never saw them.

 

[murksiderock]

where did the people move to I heard Oaktown is gone as far as Black People too and even Richmond and Vallejo is under pressure did most Black people bush the state?

Really can´t blame someone who owned property in Fillmore cac offers me 2 million for a house bought for maybe 50K 50 years ago I´d take it too.

Well when they first left SF they went to The East Bay, but since the 90s, everybody in The Bay has populated the Central Valley (Sacramento, Stockton, Modesto areas), and Nevada (Reno and Las Vegas).

Generally speaking, Black Californians don't leave far from home. There's also a pipeline of Bay Areans to the Pacific Northwest.

I would say the more recent trend of the post-2010 era, is Bay Areans packing up and heading to The South, but that's kinda been more than just a Bay or California thing, its been a documented phenomena of black people from the Northeast and Midwest heading south, too.

And you're right, I have never been offered half a mil, a million, two million, etc. Ain't no telling what I woulda done, but I can tell you this, most Black San Franciscans today will tell you that if they knew then what they know now, they wouldn't have sold.

And I have an aunt/uncle in South Central LA who have turned down multiple offers for their home within the last 15 years, they keep saying they will not sell to anyone who isn't black. This aunt/uncle are in their 60s, and personally I think they are gonna pass the house off to one of my cousins, its probably in a will or something. But I'm super proud of the fact that they have not sold to these developers.

 

[Mandarin Duck]

Moms born in 58' and was raised in Oceanside.

My grandmother on my mom's side is originally from Texas.

She moved to California as a teenager with her family in '47 to Blythe, then they went to Oceanside.

Starting working at Camp Pendleton where she met my grandfather.

I don't know much about him because he passed away when my mom was a child.

We visited my grandmother's house in Oceanside a lot and just based on my experience there seems to be some history of black folks from Texas moving to that area.

 

[JadeB]

where in ohio? my maternal family had been in ohio since the 1820's. arrived there after the 1816 black codes pushed free black families from virginia out to the midwest.

Akron during my childhood and then Columbus for my teen years

 

[murksiderock]

I knew one dude from Sac town in England and he told me that it was getting pretting Mexicanized like Compton was.

I will say compared to the east coast Cali seems way cleaner than the gritty east coast even Annapolis. I knew like one Black chick from Annapolis I know they got hoods but I never saw them.

Mexicans aren't the fastest growing demo in Sac, its Arabs and Asians. Same with The Bay. Sac has always had alot of Mexicans, California just has a lot of Chicanos period but, there are areas that used to be more black or more white, like Oak Park, Del Paso Heights, Southside Park, these areas did used to have more black people.

The thing with Sacramento though, is that it hasn't had a decline in black population, in a decennial Census, since the 1890 Census. Literally EVERY Census since then, has recorded an increased black population, so with Sac having some areas that used to be blacker that aren't anymore, it isn't because black people are leaving en masse like other California cities.

Sacramento is arguably the most integrated city in the country, it's just that black people spread out to more and more areas across the city.

 

[Taadow]

I’m second generation. My Ma is from SE Arkansas, she left as soon as she got grown in the 60’s.
She moved in with her cousins (on some Living Single chit) in East L.A. who already lived there. I don’t know when
they first got to Cali.

My Pop is from N.O. and when he got out of the Air Force, he moved in with my uncle in East L.A. …
…who was the neighbor of my Ma’s cousins.

 

[JadeB]

Mexicans aren't the fastest growing demo in Sac, its Arabs and Asians. Same with The Bay. Sac has always had alot of Mexicans, California just has a lot of Chicanos period but, there are areas that used to be more black or more white, like Oak Park, Del Paso Heights, Southside Park, these areas did used to have more black people.

The thing with Sacramento though, is that it hasn't had a decline in black population, in a decennial Census, since the 1890 Census. Literally EVERY Census since then, has recorded an increased black population, so with Sac having some areas that used to be blacker that aren't anymore, it isn't because black people are leaving en masse like other California cities.

Sacramento is arguably the most integrated city in the country, it's just that black people spread out to more and more areas across the city.

West Coast cities in general are really integrated compared to the rest of the country. I know it's not the most militant thing and I might get negged for this but I honestly like and appreciate the fact that Black people in this region can live anywhere without significant threats to our well-being. And it's not totally uncommon to see people from different racial groups hanging out with each other (Black-Latino friendships, Black-Asian friendships etc.) which is actually kind of refreshing.

 

[Deezy314619]

Moms born in 58' and was raised in Oceanside.

My grandmother on my mom's side is originally from Texas.

She moved to California as a teenager with her family in '47 to Blythe, then they went to Oceanside.

Starting working at Camp Pendleton where she met my grandfather.

I don't know much about him because he passed away when my mom was a child.

We visited my grandmother's house in Oceanside a lot and just based on my experience there seems to be some history of black folks from Texas moving to that area.

San Diego is where I moved when I came to start in Cali. I’m over it tho think I’ll be moving this year.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

2nd generation. Dad’s parents are from lousiana, mom’s mom from Texas and her dad from Mississippi.

 

[Kasper KArr]

I’m a NYer but shoutout to my Bay Area nikkas Yall some real official cats I enjoyed my time out there when I was at Stanford

@Stir Fry @Hater Eraser

 

[murksiderock]

West Coast cities in general are really integrated compared to the rest of the country. I know it's not the most militant thing and I might get negged for this but I honestly like and appreciate the fact that Black people in this region can live anywhere without significant threats to our well-being. And it's not totally uncommon to see people from different racial groups hanging out with each other (Black-Latino friendships, Black-Asian friendships etc.) which is actually kind of refreshing.

Like anything else, the heavy integration has its benefits and drawbacks. There is a comfortability with other people and cultures, which create a blended culture, that other places don't have. Which again, has its positives and negatives some black West Coasters aren't as comfortable when they get around less integration. The flipside is black people from less integrated areas, there does tend to be a stronger overall connection to blackness that isn't as shared, like black identity is shared on the West Coast.

But black people from those areas also can be uncomfortable in the hyperdiversity and hyperintegration of the West Coast. It's an adjustment either way.

One thing I know I'll miss is the stronger protection of black identity in the South. Which, let me be clear, being out here for so long, I'm not saying that black culture isn't shared out here, because it is. It's just to a lesser degree because the South is the ancestral home of black people in the US. There are more "boundaries" in place, so to speak. And I'm also being clear that we have pride in blackness in California, but everything is blended there, we eat food of other cultures more commonly than black people elsewhere; there are more bilingual/trilingual black people in California than elsewhere; etc. shyt like that.

 

[murksiderock]

The mortality of being a human has recently hit me, too. Like how at some point, the memory of who we are as people, only lasts as long as the people who knew us best. And when those people are gone, every memory of us is gone with them.

My great-grandfather, the one from Missouri, the last people alive who still knew him, are my grandma, who is 72; her brother in Berkeley, who is around five years older; and he has one sibling left, a 98-year old brother who lives in Stockton.

My grandma goes to visit the uncle once a month (he is in an old folks home), and he turned 98 back in December, and broke down crying in a recent visit. My great-grandpa woulda been 100 back on November 1, and one of their sisters also woulda had a birthday in January, and he was basically talking about how much he was missing them, this year.

But that's it, as far as immediate family, my great-grandpa has three people left who knew him, his two kids and a brother. He died 40 years ago, there are probably still some people around who may have known him in some capacity, but his siblings and parents are long gone.

Same for my great-grandma, her only child is my grandma. Her last siblings just died off; her last sister died in Georgia in 2022, and her last brother died in Utah in 2020. No siblings left. And she died 50 years ago, there are even fewer people around who may have known her in some form, so my grandma is like the last person alive who knew her.

This is kinda morbid but it's something that hit me recently, I'm like everyone else, at some point I'll just be someone's memory too.