black christians...why is this ok??

[ridedolo]

very true and as a black believer in Christ, I don't support or go to these government approved "churches" But this is happening in every aspect of black society. White supremacy is closely tied to civil rights, HBCU's, black law firms, black charities, black music & arts etc...

very true. blacks need to truly wake up because our spirituality leads to our action or inaction.

 

[Neil Tyson]

 

[Marco Andretti]

Wrong and wrong. Dumb nikkas shouldn't post

Why are black Christians in America Christians? Just curious of your opinion ..

 

[Scientific Playa]

Spelman University thinking its a "black college" but they don't know that it was funded white supremacist John Rockefeller

10-4 on most of your post but disagree with the Rockefeller part.

Rockefeller's wife whom he dearly loved came from a family of abolitionists and they used to attend black churches when they lived in Cleveland.

In 1882 the two women returned to Massachusetts to bid for more money and were introduced to wealthy Northern Baptist businessman John D. Rockefeller at a church conference in Ohio.[2] Rockefeller was impressed by Packard's vision. In April 1884, Rockefeller visited the school. By this time, the seminary had 600 students and 16 faculty members. It was surviving on generous donations by the black community in Atlanta, the efforts of volunteer teachers, and gifts of supplies; many Atlanta black churches, philanthropists, and black community groups raised and donated money to settle the debt on the property that had been acquired.[9] Rockefeller was so impressed that he settled the debt on the property.[10] Rockefeller's wife, Laura Spelman Rockefeller; her sister, Lucy Spelman; and their parents, Harvey Buel and Lucy Henry Spelman, were also supportive of the school. The Spelmans were longtime activists in the abolitionist movement. Thus, in 1884 the name of the school was changed to the Spelman Seminary in honor of Laura Spelman, John D. Rockefeller's wife,[2] and her parents, who were longtime activists in the anti-slavery movement. Rockefeller also donated the funds for what is currently the oldest building on campus, Rockefeller Hall, which was constructed in 1886.

Spelman College - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[BlaKcMoney]

Not so sure about the Oliver o Howard stories. When he was the general of Vermont, he was known for trying to avoid killing. Just saying

no problem bro, we can converse without immediately agreeing so ill post a couple reasons why i say that. Howard slaughtered many native americans and was responsible for putting black people back on plantations in the south, begining the era of "sharecropping" or post civil war slavery.

Known as the "Christian general" because he tried to base his policy decisions on his deep religious piety,[1] he was given charge of the Freedmen's Bureau in mid-1865, with the mission of integrating the freed slaves into Southern society and politics during the second phase of the Reconstruction Era. Howard took charge of labor policy, setting up a system that required free slaves to work on former plantation land under pay scales fixed by the Bureau, on terms negotiated by the Bureau with white land owners. Howard's Bureau was primarily responsible for the legal affairs of the freedmen.

The school named after him is continuing his work by "integrating" free black into white supremacist society by "requiring" them to work for modern day plantations aka corporations on pay scales agreed to by the white corporation/plantation owners and the government.

After 1874, Howard commanded troops in the West, conducting a famous campaign against the Nez Perce tribe. Utley (1987) concludes that his leadership against theApaches in 1872, against the Nez Perce in 1877, the Bannocks and Paiutes in 1878, and against the Sheepeaters in 1879 all add up to a lengthy record, although he did not fight as much as George Custer and Nelson Miles.[2]

The conflict, fought between June–October 1877, stemmed from the refusal of several bands of the Nez Perce, dubbed "non-treaty Indians", to give up their ancestral lands in the Pacific Northwest and move to an Indian reservation in Idaho. This forced removal was in violation of the 1855 Treaty of Walla Walla, which granted the tribe 7.5 million acres in their ancestral lands and the right to hunt and fish in lands ceded to the government.

Oliver Howard was involved in many civil war and post war campaigns that included killing and controlling blacks and native americans. Why are black people going to a school dedicated in honor to a genocidal racist who "solution" for black people was to force them back on plantations into slavery?

 

[Thsnnor]

i would have made this thread if he was hosting the NOI's saviors day. (should be noted that such a thing would never be allowed) but still.

can you address the content in the OP though? is it appropriate for Greg Kelly to host the show?

I'll address your question. As a Christian my main responsibility is to spread the Gospel and the hope the resurrection of Jesus Christ gives.

What is represented by what you have posted is more towards the political arena as the Gospel isn't being talked about neither is the hope the resurrection gives.

This would fall under an abuse as when people think of Christians this is NOT it.

Don't judge worldviews by abuses.

 

[ridedolo]

I'll address your question. As a Christian my main responsibility is to spread the Gospel and the hope the resurrection of Jesus Christ gives.

What is represented by what you have posted is more towards the political arena as the Gospel isn't being talked about neither is the hope the resurrection gives.

This would fall under an abuse as when people think of Christians this is NOT it.

Don't judge worldviews by abuses.

thanks for your response.

so why dont black christians unite to have this guy fired as the host? why are so many complicit in this with either their participation or silence, given his racist and sexually depraved background? why is he allowed to represent your faith?

 

[Saiyajin]

Lol @ someone who believes in religion trying to kick knowledge

do you believe in evolution?

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

no problem bro, we can converse without immediately agreeing so ill post a couple reasons why i say that. Howard slaughtered many native americans and was responsible for putting black people back on plantations in the south, begining the era of "sharecropping" or post civil war slavery.



The school named after him is continuing his work by "integrating" free black into white supremacist society by "requiring" them to work for modern day plantations aka corporations on pay scales agreed to by the white corporation/plantation owners and the government.



Oliver Howard was involved in many civil war and post war campaigns that included killing and controlling blacks and native americans. Why are black people going to a school dedicated in honor to a genocidal racist who "solution" for black people was to force them back on plantations into slavery?

Fair enough. Can't argue with that.

 

[Thsnnor]

thanks for your response.

so why dont black christians unite to have this guy fired as the host? why are so many complicit in this with either their participation or silence, given his racist and sexually depraved background? why is he allowed to represent your faith?

Usually you can see what the agenda is by the event going on. It's like the event has people who attend church getting together in order to have politics as the main issue instead of God.

It's an election year sohh everyone believes and represents their "christian" faith while going contrary to the Bible. True Christians know a person by the fruit they bear. Denouncing him would be adding another name to the list of those who lead people in a false direction.

 

[ridedolo]

Usually you can see what the agenda is by the event going on. It's like the event has people who attend church getting together in order to have politics as the main issue instead of God.

It's an election year sohh everyone believes and represents their "christian" faith while going contrary to the Bible. True Christians know a person by the fruit they bear. Denouncing him would be adding another name to the list of those who lead people in a false direction.

im not sure i understand you.

the event in question is gospel fest. its a christian celebration. how is this a political event?

 

[BlaKcMoney]

10-4 on most of your post but disagree with the Rockefeller part.

Rockefeller's wife whom he dearly loved came from a family of abolitionists and they used to attend black churches when they lived in Cleveland.

In 1882 the two women returned to Massachusetts to bid for more money and were introduced to wealthy Northern Baptist businessman John D. Rockefeller at a church conference in Ohio.[2] Rockefeller was impressed by Packard's vision. In April 1884, Rockefeller visited the school. By this time, the seminary had 600 students and 16 faculty members. It was surviving on generous donations by the black community in Atlanta, the efforts of volunteer teachers, and gifts of supplies; many Atlanta black churches, philanthropists, and black community groups raised and donated money to settle the debt on the property that had been acquired.[9] Rockefeller was so impressed that he settled the debt on the property.[10] Rockefeller's wife, Laura Spelman Rockefeller; her sister, Lucy Spelman; and their parents, Harvey Buel and Lucy Henry Spelman, were also supportive of the school. The Spelmans were longtime activists in the abolitionist movement. Thus, in 1884 the name of the school was changed to the Spelman Seminary in honor of Laura Spelman, John D. Rockefeller's wife,[2] and her parents, who were longtime activists in the anti-slavery movement. Rockefeller also donated the funds for what is currently the oldest building on campus, Rockefeller Hall, which was constructed in 1886.

Spelman College - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the Bush family was also apart of the underground railroad and were abolitionists even though they were racists. Its the same way rich racist white people funded, founded and or joined certain civil rights groups so that they could control the ultimate direction and goals of the organization. Whenever there is a freedom movement for black people, racist whites will be involved to make sure that "freedom" has limits. I will pull up some info and go deeper into this but i understand where you are coming from because the enemy is a master at posing as an ally.

 

[Thsnnor]

im not sure i understand you.

the event in question is gospel fest. its a christian celebration. how is this a political event?

Ignore the name and what is advertised. Look at the content and see what is represented. You noticed who was there and the background connection. Something seemed off as it should cause that ain't right what is going on.

 

[Koba St]

do you believe in evolution?

Yes

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I'm not against Christianity because Jesus/God is white. I don't give a fukk if he looks like Malcolm X. I'm against it because You have to be a special kind of stupid to actually believe all of this bullshyt.

So you mean it's stupid to believe we aren't just here by coincidence?