Black Excellence: Robert Smith donates 50 million dollars to Cornell School of Engineering.

[CACtain Planet]

Okay I'm on break now. But I did feel that this would turn into a HBCU funding debate that's why I highlighted the bottom part of that article. This program is used to help Black people enroll and go to CORNELL UNIVERSITY. This is Cornell University brehs. This man donated money to his alma mater which he has openly talked about as his best time in life. I don't know to much about FAMU personally to make an opinion on the university; but if this opens up a chance for black people to go to the Ivy League, it should be celebrated.

There's a difference from what Dr.Dre did. That was c00nish to the extreme.

Except this money does nothing to get more black students accepted into Cornell...that's why I brought up FAMU and @CashmereEsquire brought up NC A&T ...the engineering programs at these schools have a great graduation and gainful employment rate for black students which is why a 50 million check would do more wonders for them in there stated mission

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

I understand that but this is why I kinda lose hope..these new blacks believe in the doctrine of no labels..I'm not in the business of telling people how to spend there money but other ethnic groups in this country give back to strengthen there own institutions..even though I hate Donald Sterling, he was right when he said jews lend to each other at 0 percent interest and build credit unions in there own neighborhoods..rich black folk aren't interested in that type of giving..FAMU school of engineering graduates hundreds of black and brown students every year and could use 50 million for improvements and to eventually break away drom FSU..how many black and brown students graduate each year from Cornell school of engineering or from that school period? shyts backwards breh

But that's what his program is for breh. To make more black people go to the Ivy League. I just can't knock that hustle. Outside of Columbia University and Harvard University, The Black population at the Ivy League is under 10 percent. This is needed.

 

[CACtain Planet]

But that's what his program is for breh. To make more black people go to the Ivy League. I just can't knock that hustle. Outside of Columbia University and Harvard University, The Black population at the Ivy League is under 10 percent. This is needed.

How will funding improve the acceptance rate of black students much less black engineering students at Cornell?

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

Except this money does nothing to get more black students accepted into Cornell...that's why I brought up FAMU and @CashmereEsquire brought up NC A&T ...the engineering programs at these schools have a great graduation and gainful employment rate for black students which is why a 50 million check would do more wonders for them in there stated mission

I'm not sure about this. I'm pretty sure the financial cost of going to these Ivy League schools are seen as a deterrent for some educated black people to apply for them. If this scholarship helps remove the financial barrier to attend these universities Maybe it's still worth it. If I remember correctly there was a story about a Alabama student who wanted to go to the Ivy League but cost stopped him from attending. In the end he went to the University of Alabama. I'm sure this scholarship could've helped him.

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

How will funding improve the acceptance rate of black students much less black engineering students at Cornell?

I'm pretty sure a lot of highly educated black people want to go to the Ivy League, but the cost is too erroneous for them. Here's what I was talking about.

College-Bound Student Turns Down All 8 Ivy Leagues for University of Ala.

His main decision was that he could save the student debt by waiting for the Ivy League for graduate school. But if this scholarship was implemented in other Ivy League schools, he wouldn't have to worry about the cost. This is one of many examples I would assume.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I'm not sure about this. I'm pretty sure the financial cost of going to these Ivy League schools are seen as a deterrent for some educated black people to apply for them. If this scholarship helps remove the financial barrier to attend these universities Maybe it's still worth it. If I remember correctly there was a story about a Alabama student who wanted to go to the Ivy League but cost stopped him from attending. In the end he went to the University of Alabama. I'm sure this scholarship could've helped him.

Cornell has a 6 billion endowment with 21k students and FAMU has a 130 mill endowment with a little under 10k students, cornell could give full rides to the top 100 black HS kids and not break a sweat meanwhile schools like FAMU cant afford to give full rides to the top 50 kids in their state without having to cut corners elsewhere

 

[CACtain Planet]

I'm not sure about this. I'm pretty sure the financial cost of going to these Ivy League schools are seen as a deterrent for some educated black people to apply for them. If this scholarship helps remove the financial barrier to attend these universities Maybe it's still worth it. If I remember correctly there was a story about a Alabama student who wanted to go to the Ivy League but cost stopped him from attending. In the end he went to the University of Alabama. I'm sure this scholarship could've helped him.

It's moreso about learning environment in my opinion. If that black student in Alabama got in an Ivy I'm sure they could went to any other school in the country...what's important is acceptance and retention rates of black students..I just don't feel that's an issue of importance at ivys as it pertains to black students

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

Cornell has a 6 billion endowment with 21k students and FAMU has a 130 mill endowment with a little under 10k students, cornell could give full rides to the top 100 black HS kids and not break a sweat meanwhile schools like FAMU cant afford to give full rides to the top 50 kids in their state without having to cut corners elsewhere

Okay I'm not saying Cornell can't do it, but HIS donation was meant to help increase the black people at HIS university. It's HIS university so I just can't fault him for this.

 

[CACtain Planet]

I'm pretty sure a lot of highly educated black people want to go to the Ivy League, but the cost is too erroneous for them. Here's what I was talking about.

College-Bound Student Turns Down All 8 Ivy Leagues for University of Ala.

His main decision was that he could save the student debt by waiting for the Ivy League for graduate school. But if this scholarship was implemented in other Ivy League schools, he wouldn't have to worry about the cost. This is one of many examples I would assume.

I'd have to see the application to acceptance rate of black students at Ivys to really judge it...and besides these schools have billion dollar endowments, they could give all minorities a full ride if they wanted them there

 

[CACtain Planet]

Cornell has a 6 billion endowment with 21k students and FAMU has a 130 mill endowment with a little under 10k students, cornell could give full rides to the top 100 black HS kids and not break a sweat meanwhile schools like FAMU cant afford to give full rides to the top 50 kids in their state without having to cut corners elsewhere

Exactly, I just made this same point

 

[Apollo Creed]

Okay I'm not saying Cornell can't do it, but HIS donation was meant to help increase the black people at HIS university. It's HIS university so I just can't fault him for this.

Him serving on a board to ensure this happens does more than cutting a check especially when as an Ivy league research school cornell isnt hurting for bread. He would been better off using his connections to create a FAMU to Cornell program where you start at fam and finish at cornell or get your bachelors from fam and transition to cornell for an advance degree. Black kids arent getting into ivy leagues because HIGH SCHOOL isnt preparing them not because Ivy leagues need money.

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

It's moreso about learning environment in my opinion. If that black student in Alabama got in an Ivy I'm sure they could went to any other school in the country...what's important is acceptance and retention rates of black students..I just don't feel that's an issue of importance at ivys as it pertains to black students

Okay I have to go back to work, but the Ivy League does a great job in retention rates. University of Alabama is 80 percent CAC. So his environment is about to get worse in my opinion.

If you want to talk about whether school environment is beneficial I understand, and agree but the Ivy League numbers are great for black students.

I'll respond later, thought the rest of the day.

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

Him serving on a board to ensure this happens does more than cutting a check especially when as an Ivy league research school cornell isnt hurting for bread. He would been better off using his connections to create a FAMU to Cornell program where you start at fam and finish at cornell or get your bachelors from fam and transition to cornell for an advance degree. Black kids arent getting into ivy leagues because HIGH SCHOOL isnt preparing them not because Ivy leagues need money.

^^ This is something I can agree with. It would have to be up to Cornell though. But that's a great idea.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Black excellence

 

[Apollo Creed]

^^ This is something I can agree with. It would have to be up to Cornell though. But that's a great idea.

GA Tech has a similar program called GTREP where you start at one school for 2-3 yrs and then you finish at GA Tech and have a G Tech degree. All these "diversity programs" are essentially tax write offs so it doesnt really "cosT" people something they they set this stuff up.