Black filmmaker justifies hiring whites for projects

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:stopitslime:The key word here is your friends. How many of them nikkas was serious about a film career in the first place? How much time had they put in to their craft before you approached them with your ideas? The fact that you even solicited your friends first instead of some nikkas who actually do it for real :mjtf:

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If you actually took the time to read my whole post you would see at the bottom where I said a majority of these ideas were their ideas and yes many of them had experience on some level doing this just not in the capacity of what they were trying to do.


I don't even know what the bolded means? Am I supposed to run out and hire people when we don't have a budget?? Should Lebron have not gave Rich Paul a chance with this mentality?


Again, not trying to be funny, but what projects have you put together? Cuz I am doing this independently out my own pocket not being backed by anyone else or a corporation. You don't have the money to do it how it's "Supposed" to be done all the time. Sometimes you gotta just get out there and make it happen.
 

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shyt, I understand. I have tried to get so much shyt off the ground with my homies and for one reason or another someone is always bullshytting. Eventually you get tired of trying to make shyt work so you reach out to someone not in your circle cuz getting the project done correctly is more important than forcing a half assed effort out your boy.

Same concept with Tariq and what he's saying. He would rather have people get the job done right cuz people will still pop shyt with a all black cast anyway if the results are unprofessional.
nikka using your unqualified nikkas isn't the same thing FOH.
 

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Well tell me where to get the QUALIFIED nikkas in RDU? Are you an expert or another arm chair entrepreneur.
nikka I don't a give a fukk if you do your project or not. I was speaking on one part I posted about. My bank account says I'm an expert at getting money how bout that nikka? Guess you want to see it too but you'll just have to think I'm lying to make yourself feel better.
 

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nikka I don't a give a fukk if you do your project or not. I was speaking on one part I posted about. My bank account says I'm an expert at getting money how bout that nikka? Guess you want to see it too but you'll just have to think I'm lying to make yourself feel better.

The fact you feel the need to bring up your bank account lets me know your full of shyt. The one thing I learned from years of doing this is the bullshytters love to bring up money when no one asked them too. And you felt the need to write that last sentence cuz even you know you are full of shyt, people doing shyt wouldn't have to write that last sentence. cuz they wouldn't care.
 
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The fact you feel the need to bring up your bank account lets me know your full of shyt. The one thing I learned from years of doing this is the bullshytters love to bring up money when nobody is talking about it.
fukk outta here clown you asked me if I was an expert. I answered your question now you go into bytch mode talking about feeling the need to mention money. It was relevant to the question you asked because that's what I'm an expert at. Your bytch tactics don't work on me. Try that bullshyt on some low level nikka.
 

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:russell:

If you actually took the time to read my whole post you would see at the bottom where I said a majority of these ideas were their ideas and yes many of them had experience on some level doing this just not in the capacity of what they were trying to do.


I don't even know what the bolded means? Am I supposed to run out and hire people when we don't have a budget?? Should Lebron have not gave Rich Paul a chance with this mentality?

If your project is worthwhile a lot of professionals and especially film students will waive their rates, especially in a Z market where there aren't many projects and options to begin with. It's the truth :yeshrug: Did you attempt to post any crew calls when it became apparent your homies weren't up to par?


Again, not trying to be funny, but what projects have you put together? Cuz I am doing this independently out my own pocket not being backed by anyone else or a corporation. You don't have the money to do it how it's "Supposed" to be done all the time. Sometimes you gotta just get out there and make it happen.

I've produced/directed/shot/edited dozens of music videos and short films and I currently run a black film organization in San Francisco. I know of what I speak.

And yeah I've been there, at the end of the day though doing any creative enterprise is all about connections. You may not have the circle to get your projects off the ground now which is why you have to forge a better network by doing favors for the professionals you'll ask for favors down the road. When you're not already plugged in, that's how it works.
 

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White supremacists are white people and he diss them not stop. So basically these white people that work for him and with him must don't like white supremacists their selves

Any mothafukka will smile for a check. It ain't a good look for somebody who literally peddles pro black cinema but won't hire a black film crew.
 

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fukk outta here clown you asked me if I was an expert. I answered your question now you go into bytch mode talking about feeling the need to mention money. It was relevant to the question you answered because that's what I'm an expert at. Your bytch tactics don't work on me. Try that bullshyt on some low level nikka.

You aren't even a entrepreneur, you just a nikka talking shyt on a message board. :mjlol:

Looking at you getting mad and defensive, I ain't know fronting on message boards was an expertise.
 

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Any mothafukka will smile for a check. It ain't a good look for somebody who literally peddles pro black cinema but won't hire a black film crew.

So is it a bad look for a white supremacist to hire a black man to film white people talking about how bad black people are?

And would that black man that's filming it be considered a c00n or can he still be a pro black man that will smile for a check?
 

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The filmmaker says that the only 2 choices are hiring qualified SWS white pros OR hiring a "bunch of Black folks because they are Black".
No other options.
even in LOS ANGELES
and even after several projects

You're saying that there's a third option, hiring qualified Black film professionals???


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The white man's ice camera is colder according to the film maker .


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If your project is worthwhile a lot of professionals and especially film students will waive their rates, especially in a Z market where there aren't many projects and options to begin with. It's the truth :yeshrug: Did you attempt to post any crew calls when it became apparent your homies weren't up to par?




I've produced/directed/shot/edited dozens of music videos and short films and I currently run a black film organization in San Francisco. I know of what I speak.

And yeah I've been there, at the end of the day though doing any creative enterprise is all about connections. You may not have the circle to get your projects off the ground now which is why you have to forge a better network by doing favors for the professionals you'll ask for favors down the road. When you're not already plugged in, that's how it works.


I have done the networking with universities and colleges and yes I have met people. Keep in mind these are experiences from the past 20 years so some of the shyt I'm mentioning is 15-20 years ago. And not every single project I do has this happened but I understand the necessity of getting a project done vs having the crew you wish.

Since you have a resume, you know the struggle. A lot of people expect you to pick up camera and not make mistakes.
 

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You aren't even a entrepreneur, you just a nikka talking shyt on a message board. :mjlol:

Looking at you getting mad and defensive, I ain't know fronting on message boards was an expertise.
Whatever your low level ass needs to feel better sir makes me no difference. I'm getting mad and defensive because I responded to your post and incorrect statements? The mind of a bytch at work smh. I just replied to your questions don't see how that is mad and defensive. Like I said your bytch babble doesn't work on me ole can't succeed in life ass nikka
 

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So is it a bad look for a white supremacist to hire a black man to film white people talking about how bad black people are?

And would that black man that's filming it be considered a c00n or can he still be a pro black man that will smile for a check?

Speaking for myself I wouldn't take such a project. That is why reading the script/treatment before you accept working on a project is a must.
 
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