Black Gentrification

[Wink Beaufield]

Where you at? I live in dc. Friend of mind recently bought in capital height s or district heights I can’t remember

Fort Davis. This area is in the cut but close to everything.

 

[BigMan]

Fort Davis. This area is in the cut but close to everything.

Is that dc or Maryland

 

[invalid]

Gentrification creates nothing but chaos and destruction...

If we keeping it real, middle class- upper middle class black kids being raised in a gentrifying hoods is only going to make alot of those kids get involved in the street life.

I've been pondering if whether or not maintaining homogeneity in black neighborhoods would create stability.
The fact of the matter is that black wealth is tenuous no matter if your are poor or rich.
And influx of middle class blacks in poor black neighborhoods will be adversely felt by poor black residents.
And an influx of poor/working class blacks in middle class black neighborhoods will be adversely felt by middle class black residents.
In the past, segregation and restrictive covenants were the sole reason why a diverse demographic of blacks could survive in the same neighborhoods.
They couldn't go anywhere else so market conditions were a bit different then they are today.
So I wonder if it would be better economically for the two demographics to maintain their own communities without much overlap.
I don't think for one bit that maintaining a separation of blacks people is good for the overall health and unity of our community.
But I think its important that we consider building up our own middle class enclaves instead of reintroducing ourselves into impoverished communities.

That’s dope. Many of the blocks in the area look very like empty lots. I notice empty lots seem to be everywhere in many of the run down or gentrifying black areas. Lots of room to build.

Bronzeville has always been a tale of two cities.

 

[AlainLocke]

I've been pondering if whether or not maintaining homogeneity in black neighborhoods would create stability.
The fact of the matter is that black wealth is tenuous no matter if your are poor or rich.
And influx of middle class blacks in poor black neighborhoods will be adversely felt by poor black residents.
And an influx of poor/working class blacks in middle class black neighborhoods will be adversely felt by middle class black residents.
In the past, segregation and restrictive covenants were the sole reason why a diverse demographic of blacks could survive in the same neighborhoods.
They couldn't go anywhere else so market conditions were a bit different then they are today.
So I wonder if it would be better economically for the two demographics to maintain their own communities without much overlap.
I don't think for one bit that maintaining a separation of blacks people is good for the overall health and unity of our community.
But I think its important that we consider building up our own middle class enclaves instead of reintroducing ourselves into impoverished communities.



Bronzeville has always been a tale of two cities.

What people don't understand about capitalism and wealth is that it is a zero sum game...

The existence of wealthy people hurts poor people period...

Wealthy people don't help anybody....

Wealthy people are parasites...wealthy people are a cancer...

They grow and grow and grow and destroy everything...they the suck up more resources than everybody else...

They take shyt they don't need from the people that actually need the shyt...

So the idea that a bunch of Black middle class people...they not even on the level of a White middle class....they are basically just poor people with slightly above average incomes...

Are gonna come in and better the lives of poor Black people is a fallacy...

Does Walmart come in and help the business of Mom and Pop shops...

Does Amazon existence help the business of midlevel online retailers....


Poor people should unequivocally oppose middle class and upper middle class and rich people coming into the their neighborhoods...

They should burn their houses down...sabotage new developments...all that...

All they gonna do is consume and eat their neighborhoods alive...and the poor people are eventually gonna have to leave due to their prescence

What should be done is simple...

Poor people should receive the taxes of rich people...

They should get all their tax money and pump it into their communities and the rich people should just do with less...they already got everything...so fukk 'em...

 

[BigMan]

I need to check out Anacostia and Bennington Road NE in DC. Seems to be the one of the spots for black gentrification in DC right now

 

[How Sway?]

Have no idea who that is but could have been. You have crime that happens because of over spill every now and then because Chatham borders other communities that are not so great. But at one point, Chatham, Marynook, Park Manor, Pill Hill, and Morgan Park were solidly middle class black communities within Chicago.
Park Manor may have went down exponentially but Chatham, Marynook, and Pill Hill still retains a good amount of middle class families but again, that has been waning in recent years.
And because of the demographic shift, Chatham has been fighting hard to maintain it's big box businesses in the area.

Activists still hope to save South Side Target stores they fought hard to get

Add south shore to that list.

That area has gone downhill since the 90s. Sad bc the area has ALOT of potential
Hell They've been talking about ge terrifying that neighborhood for years lol.

 

[BigMan]

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[UberEatsDriver]

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It Might Get Cheaper to Rent Apartments in NYC -- by Law



“Two New York City Council members will introduce a package of bills Wednesday that aim to make renting apartments in one of the world's most expensive real estate marked more affordable, the Wall Street Journal reports.“

 

[DEAD7]

It Might Get Cheaper to Rent Apartments in NYC -- by Law



“Two New York City Council members will introduce a package of bills Wednesday that aim to make renting apartments in one of the world's most expensive real estate marked more affordable, the Wall Street Journal reports.“

 

[UberEatsDriver]

What?

 

[DEAD7]

What?

State manipulation of supply/demand rarely ends well.

 

[Let A Fro Be A Fro]

The countercounterargument is that richer blacks can employ poorer blacks and keep the money in those communities longer.

Are that many Black gentrifiers actual business owners themselves rather than just people who currently have well-paying jobs?

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Are that many Black gentrifiers actual business owners themselves rather than just people who currently have well-paying jobs?

That's the bigger argument here. Because MOST gentrification of ANY race are NOT business owners which is where the problem really lies. If upper-middle class black folks stared moving back to the cities and starting businesses then I'm not sure if its really gentrification at that point because it WOULDN'T be zero sum at that point. That hood would be ACTIVELY gaining increases in property value, employment, tax revenue, etc.

Traditional gentrification removes the benefits for the community and only focused on the financial boosts to the area regardless of its impact on its people.

I'm all for black folks moving BACK to the cities...I want it to happen. I just don't want to see class warfare start to permeated into our ideology as well. I think middle-class Black women in particular uniquely positioned to become MASSIVE job creators for the hood in the next 25-30 years.

I hope it REALLY REALLY works out.

 

[BigMan]

That's the bigger argument here. Because MOST gentrification of ANY race are NOT business owners which is where the problem really lies. If upper-middle class black folks stared moving back to the cities and starting businesses then I'm not sure if its really gentrification at that point because it WOULDN'T be zero sum at that point. That hood would be ACTIVELY gaining increases in property value, employment, tax revenue, etc.

Traditional gentrification removes the benefits for the community and only focused on the financial boosts to the area regardless of its impact on its people.

I'm all for black folks moving BACK to the cities...I want it to happen. I just don't want to see class warfare start to permeated into our ideology as well. I think middle-class Black women in particular uniquely positioned to become MASSIVE job creators for the hood in the next 25-30 years.

I hope it REALLY REALLY works out.

If that scenario happened it would still be gentrification as lower income people would still likely be displaced