Black Google Engineer "Google hires the whitest black candidates"

[invalid]

we are upset that the vast majority of black people who dont participate in those activities are excluded from those environments. You're being purposely obtuse.

It’s not being obtuse.

I can’t speak for tech, but for law, finance, and consulting where you are dealing with high net worth individuals and your business is dependent on your relationships with them, you need people who identify with them and have the ability to cultivate strong bonds. That means, you hire people from the same background. That means, unfortunately, that excludes a good number of blacks who grew up poor or poor adjacent and who don’t have the type of presence that high status people would take seriously.

The breh right here said there is an impediment to him getting closer to his coworker because he doesn’t share the same interests. What do you think is going to happen when you’re dealing with a client?

This is valid - I'm in a spot now where I can't even hang w/ coworkers on the weekend because I don't skii, play golf, like tennis, or hike...that shyt costs a bunch of money and to be honest I'm not interested in spending like I have parents who passed down whole houses, paid for all of my school, etc., like they are. shyt's frustrating but at the same time, if need be, I'll participate if I ever feel like it's seriously hurting my career.

It’s the same thing, as a straight man are you hanging around gay nikkas like that?

80% conversations and friendships men have revolve around sports and p*ssy. Are you about to force relationships with gay nikkas and yall ain’t got nothing in common? What are y’all gonna talk about? How are you going to develop close friendships with them? You finna go to a Beyoncé concert?

You weren’t a right fit for the school you attended. You weren’t a right fit for your industry. You should have took the time to figure out what was what before you made the decisions.

If most black people are more suited for the service and hospitality industry because we “hood”, own it, and stop forcing interactions in industries where you have to mingle with rich people and where the social capital is different. You ain’t got nothing in common. And stop castigating blacks who move with ease within those circles.

 

[Reality]

It’s not being obtuse.

I can’t speak for tech, but for law, finance, and consulting where you are dealing with high net worth individuals and your business is dependent on your relationships with them, you need people who identify with them and have the ability to cultivate strong bonds. That means, you hire people from the same background. That means, unfortunately, that excludes a good number of blacks who grew up poor or poor adjacent and who don’t have the type of presence that high status people would take seriously.

The breh right here said there is an impediment to him getting closer to his coworker because he doesn’t share the same interests. What do you think is going to happen when you’re dealing with a client?



It’s the same thing, as a straight man are you hanging around gay nikkas like that?

80% conversations and friendships men have revolve around sports and p*ssy. Are you about to force relationships with gay nikkas and yall ain’t got nothing in common? What are y’all gonna talk about? How are you going to develop close friendships with them? You finna go to a Beyoncé concert?

You weren’t a right fit for the school you attended. You weren’t a right fit for your industry. You should have took the time to figure out what was what before you made the decisions.

If most black people are more suited for the service and hospitality industry because we “hood”, own it, and stop forcing interactions in industries where you have to mingle with rich people. You ain’t got nothing in common.

I'm confused by what you actually are suggesting here - are you actually suggesting blacks surrender whole industries and educational institutions to go into service and hospitality? If not I don't understand your point.

I'm on the fence in terms of what I'm gonna do - I haven't really tried golf, tennis, skiing, any of that "cac" shyt in part because it costs a lot from a money and time perspective to do so (except for tennis). I'm still on the fence in terms of looking at this shyt as an investment in order to be able to move between that world and the one I know and am more comfortable with.

I mean, I look for likeminded black people to build with all the time, but my friends aren't in that place. I have friends who can't afford a trip to Miami let alone dropping money on investments. It is what it is. What do I do in the meanwhile, ignore the relationships I could be forming elsewhere? Probably not smart. It sucks, but it is what it is.

 

[EBK String]

It’s not being obtuse.

I can’t speak for tech, but for law, finance, and consulting where you are dealing with high net worth individuals and your business is dependent on your relationships with them, you need people who identify with them and have the ability to cultivate strong bonds. That means, you hire people from the same background. That means, unfortunately, that excludes a good number of blacks who grew up poor or poor adjacent and who don’t have the type of presence that high status people would take seriously.

The breh right here said there is an impediment to him getting closer to his coworker because he doesn’t share the same interests. What do you think is going to happen when you’re dealing with a client?



It’s the same thing, as a straight man are you hanging around gay nikkas like that?

80% conversations and friendships men have revolve around sports and p*ssy. Are you about to force relationships with gay nikkas and yall ain’t got nothing in common? What are y’all gonna talk about? How are you going to develop close friendships with them? You finna go to a Beyoncé concert?

You weren’t a right fit for the school you attended. You weren’t a right fit for your industry. You should have took the time to figure out what was what before you made the decisions.

If most black people are more suited for the service and hospitality industry because we “hood”, own it, and stop forcing interactions in industries where you have to mingle with rich people and where the social capital is different. You ain’t got nothing in common. And stop castigating blacks who move with ease within those circles.

99% of associates will never make partner and have to interact with clients. That's bullshyt. It it is nothing more than a resume builder that allows you to unlock greater opportunities in the field. Black ppl are systemically denied.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

True but I wouldn't say she is disparaging them. She looks biracial lol.

But if she is like the people she is describing I gotta give her more props for keeping it 100. Most people won't admit shyt like this publicly. Folks be defensive.

"I'm here because I'm the most qualified"

"I'm here because I work hard"

Instead of keeping it real and saying "yeah I know I'm here because I'm the blackest thing they will tolerate".

Corporate America is not in the business of hiring unqualified black people. c00ns or not, any black person who is up the ranks in corporate is often over qualified in comparison to their white peers. They often faced more racism and obstacles along the way than the average low wage worker. The Walmart worker with a high school diploma is not a threat to cacs. The brother with advanced degrees from Harvard is. He has to overcome obstacles the average person doesnt even know exist. And in my experience the Walmart worker is more likely to be a c00n cause they have only ever had to deal with overt racism.

These cacs already think every black person with a college degree only got it cause of affirmative action. And now other black people question you cause they think you only made it cause you sold out.. it puts successful blacks in between a rock and hard place. Often they isolate themselves cause of it. I dont agree but I dont blame them either.

Even successful corporate black folks are 1 or 2 generations removed from the hood at best. They cant afford to slip up and keep it real for the sake of keeping it real... they gotta play the game unfortunately. Broke kats see a brotha making money and think they made it.. not realizing what it takes to continue to make decent money and stay in that spot.

 

[saturn7]

Because you cant debunk it by being objective and have a frank discussion why even respond to my post? All you resort to is name calling with made up words.

For the millionth time which hasn't have to do with cowadice and whatever words you used to describe my post,
Malcom X the man on your avi which I assume you somewhat revere had a CARIBBEAN MOTHER FROM GRENADA making him not fulfill the ADOS purity test that people who reason like you often utilize to shut down informed opinions you dont agree with. Malcolm X therefore since he isnt a a "full ADOS" should not comment or have a stance on American race issues with your warped logic. Happy Labor Day.

Corporate America is not in the business of hiring unqualified black people. c00ns or not, any black person who is up the ranks in corporate is often over qualified in comparison to their white peers. They often faced more racism and obstacles along the way than the average low wage worker. The Walmart worker with a high school diploma is not a threat to cacs. The brother with advanced degrees from Harvard is. He has to overcome obstacles the average person doesnt even know exist. And in my experience the Walmart worker is more likely to be a c00n cause they have only ever had to deal with overt racism.

These cacs already think every black person with a college degree only got it cause of affirmative action. And now other black people question you cause they think you only made it cause you sold out.. it puts successful blacks in between a rock and hard place. Often they isolate themselves cause of it. I dont agree but I dont blame them either.

Even successful corporate black folks are 1 or 2 generations removed from the hood at best. They cant afford to slip up and keep it real for the sake of keeping it real... they gotta play the game unfortunately. Broke kats see a brotha making money and think they made it.. not realizing what it takes to continue to make decent money and stay in that spot.

I'm not saying our folks in these positions aren't qualified or hard working by any means, or sellouts. I'm sure most of the black candidates who compete for these jobs are (especially compared to pale counterparts).

I'm just saying that's not the only reason they are there and Bria Sullivan has enough awareness to see this and call it out. It's like admitting that colorism exists in black society. It shouldn't but we can't deny it still exists.

IMo she's saying they want people with the same viewpoints, life experiences, same schooling (middle class, upper middle class, private schools, PWI etc), social networks. Diversity of color but not in thought, culture or life experiences.

 

[saturn7]

People are basically saying coming from a non dysfunctional background equals complete assimilation or lack of Black "authenticity". It's very disturbing again. Exclude those who come from a Black immigrant background because it's like the go to move around these parts to discredit someone from having an opinion.

Robert Smith "ADOS" "Foundational Black" STILL would not have passed the standard of Blackness. He is a billionaire from a two parent household both parents teachers ivy league educated undergrad and post grad from Colorado Goldman Sachs alum YET substantially contributed to the construction of the AA museum in DC and just made headlines by paying down studen debts of Morehouse grads and has goven every indication through actions that he values his community and race wants to do everything for the betterment through a lot of philanthropic work.

This discussion and posts remi d me of that Fab Five documentary where Jalen Rose basically hated Grant Hill another "ADOS" Black American because he thought he was not Black enough because he went to Duke and came from a two parent household solid stable background while he was raised in Detroit not knowing his father and was one of some 12 children that his father had with 11 women. So i guess that type of dysfunction is supposed to be integral to thr true Black American experience and if you are not in those parameters your Blackness is questioned.

No one is saying that.



It's Ironic that you mentioned that Jalen Rose/Grant HIll issue. Jalen admitted he was angry and resented the way Grant was portrayed as the perfect acceptable Cosby kid because of his family background. While Jalen and talented guys like him weren't portrayed that way. I can see Jalen's point and it speaks to what this woman was saying.

If Jalen with his life experiences and background and a degree from U of Mich applied for the same google engineering job as Grant HIll, with his family background and the same degree as Jalen except from Duke U who they hiring??



KEEP IT REAL!!

 

[Yinny]

Pretty sure this is a widespread phenomenon across predominantly white spaces and esp what they mean in terms of “fit.”

 

[sfgiants]

took a tour of the google campus in mt view when i was getting my undergrad
it was a sea of white, chinese and indian men
the only women i saw were the ones who worked at the food areas and reception.

no black, latino, or anything that wasnt white, chinese or indian.

 

[Will Ross]

I doubt any of these fools juelzing are really Black.

It's common sense that in the corporate world they hire the whitest Black People possible to not interrupt the status quo, especially in a "progressive"

place like silicon valley.

The funny thing about this post is you are low key saying racism does not exist. If a black person takes on white culture

 

[Nigerianwonder]

This chick ain't even black at all. Googled her name. If yall don't get this Rachel Dolezal wanna be ass chick all the way up outta here..

This silly broad is literally talking about herself in the interview.. let a white woman call black engineers c00ns brehs...

 

[dontreadthis]

This chick ain't even black at all. Googled her name. If yall don't get this Rachel Dolezal wanna be ass chick all the way up outta here..

This silly broad is literally talking about herself in the interview.. let a white woman call black engineers c00ns brehs...

this forum is bizarre

 

[Dushane Hill]

this forum is bizarre

LMFAO

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

I think I get what she’s saying. It’s not about being traditionally black people, but seeing how some black people are attempting to ingratiate themselves amongst nonblack people. Those are the types where you talk to them the same as you would someone who is nonblack. It’s not about being stereotypical but about understanding the black experience and although you are in an environment of mostly nonblack, you still maintain that mindset of helping each other, understanding each other and being able to see that the system isn’t set up for us.

 

[yyy]

This isn't even news. I'm at an Ivy League school. The amount of Black people here are practically zero. And for the Black people that are here, the reality is that to fit in socially you are going to have to reduce your "Blackness." Now a few Black people have found ways to live in both worlds. They can fit into the Google and other elite tech companies social structure but they maintain their Blackness. This is a very rare thing because it takes time and effort and energy to do. And, at the same time, it is always tenuous because to fit into and to accept your Blackness means that somethings will inherently get you angry. Take the story of the News Anchor who was called a Gorilla.

White people do stuff like this all the time. If Google had even 5% of it's work force that were real genuine Black people - i.e. Black people who speak up about issues and take social justice issues seriously and are not willing to accept any kind of BS the entire company would completely change. Again if you've never been in these kind of spaces you might not know this. But being Black in these places is inherently tension filled. Because you have to put up with so much BS. So if a Black person ever comes along that is 1) vital and necessary to the company and 2) not willing to accept the BS then there would be fireworks.

So do the math. If tech companies 1) don't want to change who they are and 2) want superficial diversity who do you think they are going to hire? A Black person who's going to go Colin Kaepernick or Dak Prescott lol. A Black person who's going to keep his head down, blend in with the corporate culture, laugh off the inevitable indignities and micro-aggressions that come their way or one that is going to be a transformative agent and change the corporate culture. "In this world a Man must either be anvil or hammer" and most corporate companies aren't trying to change.

But this really does raise an interesting question. For Black people out there that push our best and brightest to go into corporate America, do we really ever consider the emotional toll that these individuals have to endure. I have a lot of friends that work for these companies. Yes the money is good, but there is something about being able to go through life just being yourself/ That's why I chose to be an entrepreneur. When you own your own company, you don't have to worry about these kind of things.

 

[saturn7]

This chick ain't even black at all. Googled her name. If yall don't get this Rachel Dolezal wanna be ass chick all the way up outta here..

This silly broad is literally talking about herself in the interview.. let a white woman call black engineers c00ns brehs...

ninja you know you reaching