Black Hispanic Juror says she feels "Zimmerman got away with murder"

[Brown_Pride]

thats not how the criminal court system works...and i know they screwed your dad so this thing doesn't work out like it should a lot of the times

but they have to prove Zimmerman was wrong not the other way around you know this your a smart guy

believe it or not i'm capable of distinguishing what happened to my dad vs what happened to trayvon.

Again, the issue is not IF Zimmerman killed Trayvon, it's IF it was done in self defense. There was NOTHING done to really determine that.

So i'll say it again.

The court didn't need to determine IF ZImmerman murdered Trayvon, the default answer to that question is YES.

I'm a christian, you know this, but even I find credulity stretched when someone wants to prove God exists by asking someone to prove he doesn't.

That is basically what happened here. The prosecution had to prove that Zimmerman did not act in self defense vs Zimmerman having to prove that he did. How do you prove that?
Scene 1.
Man A is following Child A. Man A has been told NOT to follow Child A. We know Man A has a gun, we know Child B is fearful of Man A.

Scene 2.
Child A is dead after being shot by Man A. Man A says Child A attacked him.

That is the case at its purest form, facts all boiled down to the actual PROVABLE facts.

How in good conscious can you say BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that Man A is NOT at MINIMUM guilty of manslaughter?

 

[ℒine ☈acks]

i dont buy this we were just following the law shyt because the first juror [the one in the shadows] stated that the jury didnt clearly understand the law...

 

[Slystallion]

believe it or not i'm capable of distinguishing what happened to my dad vs what happened to trayvon.

Again, the issue is not IF Zimmerman killed Trayvon, it's IF it was done in self defense. There was NOTHING done to really determine that.

So i'll say it again.

The court didn't need to determine IF ZImmerman murdered Trayvon, the default answer to that question is YES.

I'm a christian, you know this, but even I find credulity stretched when someone wants to prove God exists by asking someone to prove he doesn't.

That is basically what happened here. The prosecution had to prove that Zimmerman did not act in self defense vs Zimmerman having to prove that he did. How do you prove that?
Scene 1.
Man A is following Child A. Man A has been told NOT to follow Child A. We know Man A has a gun, we know Child B is fearful of Man A.

Scene 2.
Child A is dead after being shot by Man A. Man A says Child A attacked him.

That is the case at its purest form, facts all boiled down to the actual PROVABLE facts.

How in good conscious can you say BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that Man A is NOT at MINIMUM guilty of manslaughter?

God Bless you and your family and my sympathy goes out for the injustice of your Dad first and foremost

The issue is the witnesses who said Trayvon was on top while Zimmerman is screaming for help leans towards a self defense situation

you can't theoretically lock a man up for so many years when there is any doubt in a murder or manslaughter situation...those witnesses were the case

and nothing came from the prosecution side to prove that Zimmerman was the aggressor or thew the first strike then you have a different stroy

I truly don't see race in this and could care less about sides i'm just evaluating whats out there and using my own logic to judge what happened. Whatever the outcome it doesn't affect me in any way so why would i be biased or care about either specific outcome...i would have no problem calling Zimmerman a killer if the evidence showed him to be aggressive and that he was of the mindset that planned to use violence...i don't know that dude

 

[kingofnyc]

This was not a circumstanial case. A killer killed.

That's a fact.

After the fact the killer claimed he did it out of self defense.

Now this jury wants the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't self defense.

Ummm.... how can that be possible when there are no other witness accounts to the event?

What we do know is that with his entire life on the line Zimmerman refused to testify in his own defense of a self defense case.

Zimmerman was more willing to shoot an unarmed teenager in a fist fight than he was to testify in his own behalf.

Amazing. Yet the jury never considered that to be of relevance to the case? Why, because they trying to go by the letter of the law????

Of course, these idiots are going to say that now just as Zimmerman said he killed Trayvon out of self defense.

The evidence was there to convict Zimmerman of Manslaughter. To blame the prosecution is a scapegoating, cop out mentality. I can only fathom how Trayvon's parents are dealing with these idiotic juror comments.

Nobody in this situation ever took time to look out on the dead teenagers behalf. Not the Sanford Police Department. Not Zimmerman. And certainly not the six jurors in this case.

exactly.... the law needs to be changed ASAP

its no fukking way one can kill someone, claim self defense & NOT take the stand

 

[El Bombi]

Guess she don't identify with Sybrina Fulton like the prosecution had hoped.

 

[kingofnyc]

It's easy to say what you would do in a situation. Everyone reacts differently. Still no excuse for the profiling and refusal to back off when the authorities said otherwise.

again, you haven't been in the position where you have to worry about being profiled, harassed, or done dirty just because of the color of your skin, so I expect that you'd never understand.

No beef, but it's not something you can ever understand or relate to.

i just dont understand WHY that duke goes so hard


i mean have some compassion
and just let the lil homie 'rest in peace'

 

[Brown_Pride]

God Bless you and your family and my sympathy goes out for the injustice of your Dad first and foremost

The issue is the witnesses who said Trayvon was on top while Zimmerman is screaming for help leans towards a self defense situation

you can't theoretically lock a man up for so many years when there is any doubt in a murder or manslaughter situation...those witnesses were the case

and nothing came from the prosecution side to prove that Zimmerman was the aggressor or thew the first strike then you have a different stroy

I truly don't see race in this and could care less about sides i'm just evaluating whats out there and using my own logic to judge what happened. Whatever the outcome it doesn't affect me in any way so why would i be biased or care about either specific outcome...i would have no problem calling Zimmerman a killer if the evidence showed him to be aggressive and that he was of the mindset that planned to use violence...i don't know that dude

thanks sly.
The issue is that same witness says he never saw Zimmerman's head be slammed on the concrete. Trayvon had no signs of brusing on his hands. If there was "ground and pound" going on you'd expect blood splatter or blood transfer to trayvon, when the funeral director got the body there was no sign of that.

Logic doesn't lend to ZImmerman's account.

He may or may not have acted in self defense, that cannot be proven 100%
Daily Kos: DNA Report does NOT support Zimmerman's claim that Trayvon Martin caused his injuries

shows us that no DNA was found on trayvon to corroborate ZImmerman's story.

SO again we have the word of a dead child via DNA and that of a a child killer.

Also, Zimmerman said he excersized regularly via MMA, and yet a smaller child was able to slam his head 25-30 times, a bald head mind you, without the child having to dig in, all while both of Zimmerman's hands were free Sly it's fishy AT BEST. Let's not forget Trayvon apparently did this all with one hand because the other hand was being used to cover Zimmerman's mouth. Essentially you have to believe that a child many times smaller than a man was able to straddle the man, grip a wet, sweaty head, freely slam it 25-30 times, with one hand, without getting any blood on his hands. We'd have to also believe that the same child beat the mans face enough to cause a nose bleed, again all without getting blood on his hands, or even showing any signs of punching anything.

Zimmerman's story just doesn't add up, and since we KNOW he did in fact shoot and kill Trayvon, what else is there to prove?

Justice was not served sly, in your heart i know you know this.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

he had a discoloration and toxation on his liver that doctors say is consistent with heavy codeine usage

HEY YOU PIECE OF SHT....Are you fukking mental, or are you just a compulsive liar? You tried to push this lie here last week, and people here directly linked you to the goddamn medical examiner's report that said no such thing. Now you're back to repeating this fcking lie????

 

[LionofJudah]

Why are y'all debating with either an obvious troll, or an obvious racist? If white people would just come out and say, 'yeah Zimmerman murdered him and I'm glad', then I could at least deal with that. Y'all keep letting people who try to act like they are looking at the facts of the case and coming to the best conclusion waste your time. Stop letting them waste y'all time.

 

[Slystallion]

HEY YOU PIECE OF SHT....Are you fukking mental, or are you just a compulsive liar? You tried to push this lie here last week, and people here directly linked you to the goddamn medical examiner's report that said no such thing. Now you're back to repeating this fcking lie????

Easy there...people need to stop making these debates personal we don't know the people involved and we all have the same wants in life and go through similar struggles. Opinions are going to always be different that doesn't make someone a bad person or evil if you have different philosophical opinions.

The autopsy report showed the yellow discoloration ...the guy in the video claimed doctors said irs consistent with codeine use ...but the autopsy linked mentioned the same thing the guy in the video said so no i did not lie and nobody disproved it

 

[Slystallion]

thanks sly.
The issue is that same witness says he never saw Zimmerman's head be slammed on the concrete. Trayvon had no signs of brusing on his hands. If there was "ground and pound" going on you'd expect blood splatter or blood transfer to trayvon, when the funeral director got the body there was no sign of that.

Logic doesn't lend to ZImmerman's account.

He may or may not have acted in self defense, that cannot be proven 100%
Daily Kos: DNA Report does NOT support Zimmerman's claim that Trayvon Martin caused his injuries

shows us that no DNA was found on trayvon to corroborate ZImmerman's story.

SO again we have the word of a dead child via DNA and that of a a child killer.

Also, Zimmerman said he excersized regularly via MMA, and yet a smaller child was able to slam his head 25-30 times, a bald head mind you, without the child having to dig in, all while both of Zimmerman's hands were free Sly it's fishy AT BEST. Let's not forget Trayvon apparently did this all with one hand because the other hand was being used to cover Zimmerman's mouth. Essentially you have to believe that a child many times smaller than a man was able to straddle the man, grip a wet, sweaty head, freely slam it 25-30 times, with one hand, without getting any blood on his hands. We'd have to also believe that the same child beat the mans face enough to cause a nose bleed, again all without getting blood on his hands, or even showing any signs of punching anything.

Zimmerman's story just doesn't add up, and since we KNOW he did in fact shoot and kill Trayvon, what else is there to prove?

Justice was not served sly, in your heart i know you know this.

Any reason why any of the DNA evidence wasn't allowed to be used...that's something I would look into as things that could change my opinion of case. Prosecution should have used fight science type people to explain and show physical altercation scenarios because most of us don't have that level of expertise in combat to really know whats possible and what isn't

 

[ltheghost]

At the end of the day there will be no justice served. We need to accept this and keep it moving. The media is trying to troll us with useless idiots like this juror.

 

[Brown_Pride]

Any reason why any of the DNA evidence wasn't allowed to be used...that's something I would look into as things that could change my opinion of case. Prosecution should have used fight science type people to explain and show physical altercation scenarios because most of us don't have that level of expertise in combat to really know whats possible and what isn't

So there it is though. "common sense" right?
That's a damn good question though, WHY wasn't it brought up.
That case was BS. ALL the evidence was not presented. WHY?

Now you know at least why people are pissed. Race aside, if this were your son, given what you NOW know. Would you be pissed?

Are you pissed now? Knowing not all the evidence was presented?

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I wish nothing but pain and suffering for those 6 women and their children

They let a murderer go free

 

[El Bombi]

I wonder what Victor Cruz think about this woman?