Black male slaves had more privilege than the white women that owned them? See OP

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Also notice how White women out here voting for white supremacy while still maintaining victim hood status:mjpls:


I am getting a little sick of this narrative

You really think these white feminists is voting for Trump

:what:

You still don't recognize the fleecing white liberals are commitng?
 

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I am getting a little sick of this narrative

You really think these white feminists is voting for Trump

:what:

You still don't recognize the fleecing white liberals are commitng?

58% of ALL WHITE woman nationwide voted for this jackass tho...:what: I bet you there's a few feminists who voted for WHITE male first and now are regretting it...:mjpls:
 

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@AsTheWorldBurns Another answer to your question, although I do get the feel of 'I'ma get my sister to whoop your ass'. :pachaha:

@Eclipser, Men could provide some social incentive. The sister who whoops ass for you gets some sort of social reward. This could be negotiated. :jbhmm:

@Indiglow Meta (R$G) Since you're one of the more vocal hard liners here, thoughts? :ld:
white women are dangerous.
 

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wow, by far the dumbest thing i think ive ever heard. and ive heard a lot of dumb things just this week

this, along with the woman on twitter saying a man giving a woman cpr is rape, is the competing hard for idiots of the decade.
 
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@AsTheWorldBurns Another answer to your question, although I do get the feel of 'I'ma get my sister to whoop your ass'. :pachaha:

@Eclipser, Men could provide some social incentive. The sister who whoops ass for you gets some sort of social reward. This could be negotiated. :jbhmm:

@Indiglow Meta (R$G) Since you're one of the more vocal hard liners here, thoughts? :ld:
That's already happening, just very...very slowly.
(Smart/Useful) Female influencers can't really penetrate the core audience...they're addicted to the snark/bash/drama culture...like idiot brehs are tuned into sports/political dikkriding.
Normal women are their target.
I suggest they game minds by attacking "male feminists" and "white allies"...to isolate the other core. Reveal female "secrets" and speak on older women raping young boys. Put a lil of that "business" out to make a few folks nervous and humble.
 

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Should have never gave these hoes access to social media.

This matriarchy is out control:snoop:

These feminists are out of control and out of pocket.:snoop:

We need to start keeping these women in check.:snoop:

I can see why Arab culture (as toxic and vile as it is towards women) does what it does. We can't emulate them, nor am I advocating that type of culture, but there needs to be some sort of balance. Rhetoric like this is too much. Too far. How the fukk?:snoop:

Black men truly are the enemy to these feminists, huh?

This rhetoric is a direct result of intersectional feminism. @The Black Panther

The quoted female in the OP is wrong.

The quoted female in the OP is, I assume, an intersectional feminist.

The quoted female in the OP is an intersectional feminist who is wrong.

The quoted female in the OP is not wrong as a result of being an intersectional feminist.

Why is that hard to understand?


To be honest, what you said shows why intersectionality matters.

Here's my main example: feminism in the US fails to address many of the struggles of Black women, because feminism has overwhelmingly white, upper-middle class representatives and proponents. It's not designed to address other social issues that intersect with Black women's femininity, such as race, socioeconomic background, sexual orientation, or religion.

This failure, IMO, is why you see affluent/upwardly mobile white women over-emphasize the "oppression" they experience, while supporting political positions that restrict a large portion of other feminists of another race.

An intersectional approach broadens the understanding of systems of oppression by giving them context. Extremely important in terms of breaking down those systems of oppression in question.

I would say yes. A half-hearted understanding of how different systems of oppressions work can do more damage than not understanding it at all, which is why you have a bunch of people (including posters in this thread) wholly rejecting intersectionality without understanding it.

Feminism is problematic in many ways (especially 3rd wave feminism IMO), but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

White women will not "get" this approach on their own, which is why we need strong Black feminist voices to rise. Black feminism cannot make gains while white feminism continues to frame the discussion.
 

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THE COMPARISON WAS BLACK MEN VS. WHITE WOMEN. THE BLACK MEN WHO DID HAVE LAND AND VOTED WERE CONSIDERED BLACK. MULATTO WAS NOT A RACE. THOSE MEN WERE BLACK BY SOCIETY'S DEFINITION. THINGS LIKE THE 1 DROP RULE WERE THOUGHT UP TO COMBAT THIS FROM HAPPENING.

ALL I DID IS POINT OUT THE SOURCE OF WHY THEY FELT THAT WAY. I DIDN'T AGREE WITH IT. I EVEN SAID IT WAS BS MORE THAN ONCE.

Before 1860 -- it really didn't matter what they were listed -- cause if you looked like you had any Black -- you were enslaved -- or subject to be enslaved - if you were in a free state and didn't have papers.

But, if someone was classified as Mulatto or Colored before then -- and on the 1850 Census and they were Free/Manumitted.

They were usually in Free States -- or if they were in the South -- they were more than likely -- classified as gens de couleur libres or FPOC and living in N.O. With another classification -- Not Black -- Not White.

Regardless of their ethnicity, freedmen had been able to own plantations and often owned large numbers of slaves themselves. The slaves were generally not friendly with the freedmen, who sometimes portrayed themselves as bulwarks against a slave uprising. As property owners, freedmen tended to support distinct lines set between their own class and that of slaves. Often working as artisans, shopkeepers or landowners, the gens de couleur frequently became quite prosperous, and many prided themselves on their European culture and descent. They were often well-educated in the French language, and they tended to scorn the Haitian Creole language used by slaves. Most gens de couleur were Roman Catholic, and many denounced the Vodoun religion originating in Africa.


So, no they were not looked at as Black men -- nor did most want to be. And the those in the South were usually FPOC who were women. They were also enslavers.

WHEN THE CENSUS STARTED THERE WERE 3 CLASSIFICATIONS FOR RACE. WHITE, FREE PERSON OF ______DESCENT, AND SLAVE. MULATTO WAS NEVER A CLASSIFICATION ON CENSUS BUREAU DOCUMENTS. BIRTH CERTIFICATES AT THIS TIME WERE CONTROLLED BY THE STATE SO THERE WERE DIFFERENT RULES FOR DIFFERENT STATES AND EVEN DOWN TO THE CITY LEVEL. BLACK MEN WITH WHITE FATHERS WHO SIGNED THE CERT WERE CLASSIFIED AS BLACK ON CENSUS FORMS IN THE MAJORITY OF SOUTHERN STATES BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T READ OR WRITE. THEIR FORMS WERE FILLED OUT BY CENSUS TAKERS. YOU HAD TO SHOW BIRTH RECORDS IN ORDER TO BE CATEGORIZED ANY OTHER WAY. IN THE MID 1800'S THE 1 DROP RULE CAME INTO EFFECT AND REGARDLESS OF THE FATHER'S LINEAGE, EITHER PARENT BEING BLACK MADE YOU BLACK. MANY BLACKS WERE SUED AND HAD LAND TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE OF THIS. MIXED RACE DIDN'T BECOME A THING UNTIL ABOUT 1910 AFTER A FEDERAL INITIATIVE TO STANDARDIZE BIRTH CERTIFICATES/CENSUS INFORMATION. I HAVE CENSUS PAPERS TO BACK UP WHAT I SAY. I'VE SPENT HUNDREDS OF HOURS DOING RESEARCH ON THIS WHEN I DID MY ANCESTRY RESEARCH.

WHITE WOMEN HEADED PLANTATIONS WHEN THE HUSBAND DIED AND IT WAS DEEDED TO HER VIA WILL.


BLACK MEN WITH WHITE FATHERS WHO SIGNED THE CERT WERE CLASSIFIED AS BLACK ON CENSUS FORMS IN THE MAJORITY OF SOUTHERN STATES BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T READ OR WRITE. THEIR FORMS WERE FILLED OUT BY CENSUS TAKERS. YOU HAD TO SHOW BIRTH RECORDS IN ORDER TO BE CATEGORIZED ANY OTHER WAY.

It was MILLIONS of Black men and women with White Fathers -- and they weren't signing birth certificates because they sexually violated their mothers -- and didn't want anything to do with them. The majority of Black people knew why they were mixed and it wasn't out of love. They weren't leaving them land or anything -- they wanted extra enslaved people to make them money.

Black people weren't on the Census until 1860 -- UNLESS they were free -- which wasn't many. Less than 500K total in the U.S. -- free and slave states combined -- and most were not classified as Black/Negro -- but gens de couleur libres or FPOC. The highest amount was always in N.O. or Maryland ( a border state to a free state)
 

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Before 1860 -- it really didn't matter what they were listed -- cause if you looked like you had any Black -- you were enslaved -- or subject to be enslaved - if you were in a free state and didn't have papers.

But, if someone was classified as Mulatto or Colored before then -- and on the 1850 Census and they were Free/Manumitted.

They were usually in Free States -- or if they were in the South -- they were more than likely -- classified as gens de couleur libres or FPOC and living in N.O. With another classification -- Not Black -- Not White.

Regardless of their ethnicity, freedmen had been able to own plantations and often owned large numbers of slaves themselves. The slaves were generally not friendly with the freedmen, who sometimes portrayed themselves as bulwarks against a slave uprising. As property owners, freedmen tended to support distinct lines set between their own class and that of slaves. Often working as artisans, shopkeepers or landowners, the gens de couleur frequently became quite prosperous, and many prided themselves on their European culture and descent. They were often well-educated in the French language, and they tended to scorn the Haitian Creole language used by slaves. Most gens de couleur were Roman Catholic, and many denounced the Vodoun religion originating in Africa.


So, no they were not looked at as Black men -- nor did most want to be. And the those in the South were usually FPOC who were women. They were also enslavers.




BLACK MEN WITH WHITE FATHERS WHO SIGNED THE CERT WERE CLASSIFIED AS BLACK ON CENSUS FORMS IN THE MAJORITY OF SOUTHERN STATES BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T READ OR WRITE. THEIR FORMS WERE FILLED OUT BY CENSUS TAKERS. YOU HAD TO SHOW BIRTH RECORDS IN ORDER TO BE CATEGORIZED ANY OTHER WAY.

It was MILLIONS of Black men and women with White Fathers -- and they weren't signing birth certificates because they sexually violated their mothers -- and didn't want anything to do with them. The majority of Black people knew why they were mixed and it wasn't out of love. They weren't leaving them land or anything -- they wanted extra enslaved people to make them money.

Black people weren't on the Census until 1860 -- UNLESS they were free -- which wasn't many. Less than 500K total in the U.S. -- free and slave states combined -- and most were not classified as Black/Negro -- but gens de couleur libres or FPOC. The highest amount was always in N.O. or Maryland ( a border state to a free state)


https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/decennial/1850/1850a/1850a-29.pdf#

AS I SAID BEFORE, THERE WAS ONLY WHITE, FREE PERSON OF _____ DESCENT, AND SLAVE. BLACK SLAVES WERE ON THE CENSUS FROM THE BEGINNING. THE CENSUS HELPED DETERMINE HOW YOUR TAXES WERE LEVIED BACK THEN. YOU CAN KEEP TRYING BUT I'VE LOOKED AT CENSUS DATA FROM MOST OF THE SOUTH FROM THE BEGINNING TILL ABOUT 1940.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ARGUING HERE. BLACK SLAVES WERE ON THE CENUS. FREE BLACK PEOPLE WERE ON THE CENSUS UNDER FREE PERSON OF ______ DECENT OR JUST COLORED. I SAID THAT MULTIPLE TIMES.
 

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https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/decennial/1850/1850a/1850a-29.pdf#

AS I SAID BEFORE, THERE WAS ONLY WHITE, FREE PERSON OF _____ DESCENT, AND SLAVE. BLACK SLAVES WERE ON THE CENSUS FROM THE BEGINNING. THE CENSUS HELPED DETERMINE HOW YOUR TAXES WERE LEVIED BACK THEN. YOU CAN KEEP TRYING BUT I'VE LOOKED AT CENSUS DATA FROM MOST OF THE SOUTH FROM THE BEGINNING TILL ABOUT 1940.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ARGUING HERE. BLACK SLAVES WERE ON THE CENUS. FREE BLACK PEOPLE WERE ON THE CENSUS UNDER FREE PERSON OF ______ DECENT OR JUST COLORED. I SAID THAT MULTIPLE TIMES.

Oh ok. -- I"m not arguing - just trying to understand what you are saying. You threw me off when you were talking about White men on Birth Certificates... like that really was happening....
 

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58% of ALL WHITE woman nationwide voted for this jackass tho...:what: I bet you there's a few feminists who voted for WHITE male first and now are regretting it...:mjpls:


I get that you hate Trump cool..

But he has nothing to do with radical feminism breh.. this a left wing problem
 

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I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THE PERSON BEHIND THAT ACCOUNT
IS A BLACK WOMAN.


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