How are you a leader then if your not telling her what to do?
Black men, how did we allow this matriarchy in the black community?
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How are you a leader then if your not telling her what to do?
You can be a leader without ever opening your mouth.
JasonSJackson
Jah Sun Ma'at Ra
You didnt answer the questions at all nikka...........u responded.
"we always look out for the best intrest of our family members." This is not an answer. An answer would be defining what the best interests of your family are then telling how you go about providing them. What, do you send your kids to the best schools? Stock the fridge with Organic food? What??????
"I concede some things for my wife's happiness, she concedes some things for me." This is not an answer. An answer would state the exact concessions you make to each other. what does she concede? What do you? if you would actually answer this candidly and honestly then it may come to the light they u really arent the head of the household that you think you are
"Success for my family would be setting my kids up to go and do whatever it is they want to do with their life." Again, This isnt an answer. how do you set your kids up to go and do whatever it is they want to do with their life? Send them to the best schools? Take them on trips around the world? WHATTT?!!!?! What do you do nikka???
"I will set my kids up for this by providing them with a happy home, support, and positive guidance." how do u provide them a happy home.......oh wait, thats the original question. How do you define support? How do you provide it? What is positive guidance? How do you provide it?
Your answers tell me one of two things...........either u a dumb ass nikka who cant think analytically and doesnt know the root of his own ideals or you just a troll ass nikka who realizes that his point doesnt hold water and is trying to dance around the questions to avoid being exposed.
Which are you?
DaChampIsHere
Survive the drought
Un-AmericanDreamer
Simp City
Patriarchy is not an exclusively european phenomena, jesus christ. It's like you guys don't know about Asians, Muslims, Indians or Africans.
Sierra Mist
Banned
Didin't the Bible that all you black Christians hold so dearly also say that Patriarchy is the way to be?
I'm not gonna go about listing every little detail for you. Our best interests change everyday. One day my wifes best intrest might be supporting her and listening about a stressful day. Another day it may be inspiring her to say fukk those cacs at school.
I've answered your questions as candidly as I can. You are the one holding a dishonest conversation you are asking me questions in order to try to catch me with something you can pounce on to try to prove your point. Again I'm not gonna detail everything out for you. A concesion could be something as simple as watching the tv show she picks, or something as big as choosing the kids school. Each situation varies and I react accordingly. If you want to know something big I conceded. It was her getting her tubes tied or not. I was content with two kids, she wanted more. Now that she has started her career, she doesn't want to have anymore kids. I could have argued with her and made her get her tubes tied, but I didn't. The outcome is what I as the leader thought was best, and i didnt have to argue or make her do anything.
My kids are 2 and 7 they haven't figured out what they want to do yet so I cant give a detailed answer to this question yet.
By not arguing with their mom???? I'm not sure how you want me to answer this. I am the support and positive guidance so all i have to do is be there teach them what I know.
Neither, again I'm just a regular nikka who knows how to lead a family.
Now I've answered a bunch of your questions. You answer your original question. What does It take to make a happy successful family?
Didin't the Bible that all you black Christians hold so dearly also say that Patriarchy is the way to be?
So how long before we get to the one that shows/compares black men/women.
DaChampIsHere
Survive the drought
Pay Equity & Discrimination — IWPRSo how long before we get to the one that shows/compares black men/women.
The one titled: The Gender Wage Gap by Occupation
by Ariane Hegewisch, Claudia Williams, and Vanessa Harbin (April 2012)
I got a program to host, but I'll be back later if you still need help understanding this concept.
I say this on here all the time, but people can't seem to grasp this concept on here. We can all be equal and play different roles. A leader and follower are equals because neither of them can exist in the capacity that they do with out the other. They are different but understand they are equal.
*Long post*
I'm like a big film/documentary head (along with being very into sociology) and I saw this movie one day and it really made me look at the problems the black community was having in a completely different way.
After the Civil Rights movement, the black community is in a "good state", at least the black family is. Socially, we are connected. Civil rights movement "ends" in 1968. What big government sanctioned actions happens the next year?
1969 - The draft lottery of 1969. For what war? The biggest war the US has ever lost and knew they were going to lose but still kept fighting and sending troops anyway: The Vietnam War
Now, who is drafted at a much higher rate that any other racial group in America? African-American males. For the Vietnam war, though African-Americans made up only 11% of the US population in 1969-70, African-American males accounted for over 12% of the drafted persons. These are young men and men who have families as well. Men taken out of their communities after the biggest social movement the United States has ever seen. Men taken out of their community when they are needed the most.
What happens while these men are at war? They are sent to some of the worst areas in Vietnam. Areas where the causality rates are abnormally high when compared to their white counterparts. At this time, these men are also promised all of the benefits of fighting in this war (education, support, etc.). Do many of them get it? No. The ones that are left alive, are left to come back home, many of them miss out on their education benefits, suffer from severe mental problems with no help from the government and are basically discarded back into the community after 1973. Under the guise of patriotism and supporting their family and nation, black men were separated from their families and communities at a much higher rate than any race of people at the time.
Now, the other, what happens back home while the men are away? Of course these women begin to live their lives as single parents. With their husbands and partners dying at alarming rates, what do they turn to? Oh. of course, do I even have to say it?
But that's not all, what media movement in the black community hits the populace like wildfire while the men have been taken from the homes, the community is desolate of it's working class male structure, and when these same working class men return home? The direct year after 1970, the year where all of those drafted are sent to war what movement happens:
1971 - The Blaxploitation Era: The glorification of the pimp, the crime underworld, drug use, pre-marital sex, hypersexuality, promiscuity, the strong black women who fights crime and doesn't take shyt, all while backed by the too cool for school black man who is kickin' the man's ass and freeing his community, one honkey at a time. 1971 is the release of the first blaxploiation film, by Melvin Van Peebles "Sweet Sweetback's Bad Ass Song". The opening scene of the movie is a little boy having sex with a grown women.
Everyone loves it. It's the biggest thing across black America. Black boys who don't have fathers in their homes anymore are finding solace in the images of pimps and crime hustlers, who are fighting against "the man" with illegal and debaucherous activity as a financial support system. They begin to glorify the misogynistic imagery along with the flashy lifestyle of criminals. Women who don't have husbands, partners, fathers see these images of these "cool" black men who are also the leaders of their community, but none of these men have real jobs, they are not working class, they only seem to fight crime with crime and pimp women and be cool as hell while doing it. But this is the biggest thing in the black community and everyone loves it. They also love the overly sexualized images of black women, these same black women who also never commit to men in these movies, neither sex takes on partners for a family. And everyone loves watching and emulating it.
Who tries to fight against it? The NAACP. The NAACP and other black leaders fight hard against the blaxploitation media, but black people love it so much, they don't wanna give it up. In fact, the NAACP is shamed for trying to put black people out of jobs. They are shamed by people who believe any image of black people (good or bad) is better than no image. Try to speak down on the blaxploitation or say that you don't watch those movies, even today, black people will shame you. It does not take Hollywood that long to get involved. Within 1-2 years, Hollywood is buying up and financing much of the blaxploitation industry and painting their own images as well.
But what happens when the men come home from war (1973-1975)? Things aren't the same anymore. Working class men aren't honored anymore, by men, women, and children in the black community alike. I know y'all seen "Dead Presidents", who was feeding Anthony's family so his chick wouldn't have to go on welfare?
We made these images popular ourselves, and we took them in and gave them a home in our social connection to our communities. In a matter of 5-7 years, everything in the black community changes. The black community in allegiance, men and women, began to glorify the cool demeanor, sex, and crime, in the name of "revolution" and finally getting over on the white man.
Through the glorification of crime and misogyny in spite of warnings from black leaders and the like, black people (of all ages and both sexes) singlehandedly reversed the tone of their community to supporting derogatory images of men AND women as an antithesis to white American culture. This continues throughout the 70s. The love and admiration of crime, misogyny, hypersexuality, etc. continues on into the 80s through the drug and HIV epidemic, rap music, prison growth and the surge of crime rates
I'm gonna try to find this film and post it here. It was really good doc. It's mostly about the blaxploitation era, but it touches on how the draft unfairly took black men out the black community and how this genre of media stepped in right after and the NAACP and other's opposition.
The blaxploitation era and the crack epidemic made it hard for a hard working black man be praised for doing the right thing. Even today, cats rather look up to Rick Ross or Big Meech for inspiration over positive images like Obama. They want to be on some super nicca shyt where everyone is playing their Bonnie and Clyde or Scarface fantasy and everything is just in shambles
Maybe this young generation holds the answer. They can finally break that four-decade curse of the blaxploitation and crack epidemic and make black people be regular people again exploring actual hobbies and exploring the world.
The blaxploitation era and the crack epidemic made it hard for a hard working black man be praised for doing the right thing. Even today, cats rather look up to Rick Ross or Big Meech for inspiration over positive images like Obama. They want to be on some super nicca shyt where everyone is playing their Bonnie and Clyde or Scarface fantasy and everything is just in shambles
Maybe this young generation holds the answer. They can finally break that four-decade curse of the blaxploitation and crack epidemic and make black people be regular people again exploring actual hobbies and exploring the world.
The apathy is not going away anytime soon. Matriarchy are producing too many confused individuals who don't possess a sound mind.
Those single parent households are not producing a lot of success stories.
1. The lack of guidance, is causing males to figure out what it takes to be a man on their own, and its worse because female's fathers are not around so the woman don't know what real men looks like. This makes things REALLY confusing between the sexes. (The confused guys don't break out of their shell until 40 years old, that's usually when they move past the pimp phase, by then too many women have been ruined)
2. Matriarchy doesn't help a man learn how to relate to women and women to relate to men in a marriage or relationship. (I had to tell a girl she doesn't have to submit, but no one is gonna want her if she is not more easy going.)
3. Since there is no point of reference, power struggles become World War III because they don't understand how important it is to compromise in a relationship. (Animosity and resentment is too common off the littlest disagreement)
I've seen so many guys who thinks misbehaving, being irresponsible, and lack of self control is the best approach to life.
I compare our people to whites, latinos, middle easterners, and the men does their part in creating stability and structure among man, woman, and children.
HelgaPataki
Pro
good leaders don't blame their so-called followers when things go bad. so all of you blaming women
