Black Men need to "Man-Up", mentor these lil nigglets out chea.

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:skip: For all you who are lost, I think I can summarize this thread in one post.


*Black Woman writes article saying black men should mentor young black boys of single mothers*



Black male Poster #1 responds: " ?I ain't mentoring or taking care of another nikkas's kids, black women need to stop procreating with "ain't shyt" nikkas?


Black Male Poster #2 responds::stopitslime: ?Nah she right we do need to mentor these boys for the community, it ain't black women's fault that they got a bunch of out of wedlock kids from different nikkas, maybe if black men took care of their kids and were leaders there wouldn't be any issues"


Random Female Poster: *Cosigns black male poster #2* ?This is why I don't respect black men, yall are always quick to shyt on black women. :beli: Just because a woman is a single mother doesn't make her a ho"! :usure:


Black Male Poster#1: "Why can't black women make better choices in men and stop having out of wedlock babies :mindblown: They need to raise their standards I ain't mentoring these kids they're too far gone"


Black Male Poster #2::snoop: Ya'll c00n ass uppity nikkas never miss a chance to shyt on black women and black people, If ya'll nikkas stopped knocking black women up and walking out then we wouldn't have this problem, what's wrong with spending a little time with a kid and being a role model.:manny:


*The two groups of nikkas and females go back and forth for 50+ pages talking about the same thing and the fukkery commences*:lolbron:





Did I miss anything?:mjpls:

You forgot Black Male Poster#3

"We just having fun ouchea :pachaha:"
 

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The ones that want to win with the hand that circumstance dealt them. That lil nikka. The others? To Hell with them. Or rather, that's where they shall remain.

The alternatives to this mentality is that of the mediocre or the loser. If you're Black, either one dooms to the fate that society has reserved out for so many of us.

I live by the words that Richard Nixon said on the subject of personal excellence:

"What starts the process, really, are laughs, slights and snubs when you are a kid. Sometimes it's because you're poor, or Irish or Jewish or Catholic or ugly or simply that you are skinny. But if you are reasonably intelligent and if your anger is deep enough and strong enough, you learn you can change those attitudes by excellence, personal gut performance, while those who have everything are sitting on their fat butts.

Once you learn that you've got to work harder than anybody else, it becomes a way of life as you move out of the alley and on your way. In your own mind you have nothing to lose, so you take plenty of chances, and if you do your homework many of them pay off. It is then you understand, for the first time, that you have the advantage because your competitors can't risk what they have already. It's a piece of cake until you get to the top. You find you can't stop playing the game the way you've always played it because it is a part of you and you need it as much as an arm or a leg.

So you are lean and mean and resourceful, and you continue to walk on the edge of the precipice because over the years you have become fascinated by how close to the edge you can walk without losing your balance."

-Richard Nixon, 1974


I had that quote hanging above my desk in my room from the day I read it in 7th grade. Every Black kid needs to read it and truly feel it, deep with in their hearts. It's the only shield I have in a world that would rather have me dead, broke, or in jail.

Black Americans failed to advance socially because they aspire to be mediocre like their white counterparts.


Wait, you live in your house on another man's dime? You don't own or rent your own spot?



Are you scared of "h'white power?" Really, breh?



Dude, it's 2012. Not 1912. You're fine.



College buddies...



Umm... it's cool when there's another black dude to talk to from time to time, sure, but I don't require it. I mean, that's what I log on here for.Now, I will say that I've gotten the hook up from Black people in my life, but I've also gotten the hook up from white people in my life. Opportunity knows no race.



I'm the superior other. First generation. I'm an alien everywhere I go. I get treated like a man from Neptune by most people. I get along with other aliens for the most part. A white guy got me my first real job out of college. That guy, like myself, is a bit "other worldly" to most people. It's probably a big reason why we can relate to one another. The Black people in my life really couldn't do sh!t for me in that regard. It pays to have a wide, diverse circle of friends.



Black teachers are cool, sometimes. But a lot of black teachers suck. Most teachers are crappy people. I'd teach my kid to be smarter than every single teacher he has throughout his K-12 schooling and into college. I hope any Black teacher that my child has challenges him at every turn and doesn't cut him an inch of slack.



I'll equip my children with the knowledge that they're better than 90%+ of the people that they deal with on a day to day basis. Regardless of race.
:ohhh: you and i see eye to eye and seem to have had mirrored experiences growing up(red). and i agree wholeheartedly with the bolded. now THAT'S how you raise high(over)achieving ultra confident children. PREACH ON! :cheers:
 

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Sierra Mist, The Nigerian and AnotherGirl are the ones I agree with the most.

If Black people are going to progress a mentality change is absolutely necessary. We need to stop making excuses for fellow Black people who are making bad decisions. Especially adult Black people who know right from wrong. If your over the age of 20 and your fukking up...then fukk YOU
 

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Sierra Mist, The Nigerian and AnotherGirl are the ones I agree with the most.

If Black people are going to progress a mentality change is absolutely necessary.We need to stop making excuses for fellow Black people who are making bad decisions. Especially adult Black people who know right from wrong. If your over the age of 20 and your fukking up...then fukk YOU

The only way to change the mentality is to set a positive example for the KIDS which is what this thread is about, and precisely what all three of them are arguing against.
 

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The only way to change the mentality is to set a positive example for the KIDS which is what this thread is about, and precisely what all three of them are arguing against.

False. I'm against raising someone else's children. I'm against people who messed up in life feeling entitled to have someone else clean up their mess. I'm against the shaming tactics that get used. Fully functional adults should be able to mentor their own children. I'm against this idea that adults are incapable of thinking like adults.
 

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False. I'm against raising someone else's children. I'm against people who messed up in life feeling entitled to have someone else clean up their mess. I'm against the shaming tactics that get used. Fully functional adults should be able to mentor their own children. I'm against this idea that adults are incapable of thinking like adults.

So if anybody is over 23 and still fukking up they should be written of as lazy bumbs with fukked up mentalities and we should offer them no help.

I get that part, don't really agree but I get where your coming from.

What do we do when those lazy irresponsible people have kids? Do we write the kids off as being unlucky and say fukk em, let em be doomed to being lazy irresponsible adults?

How do we change the mentality? How do we prevent people from growing up to be lazy irresponsible adults?
 

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So if anybody is over 23 and still fukking up they should be written of as lazy bumbs with fukked up mentalities and we should offer them no help.

I get that part, don't really agree but I get where your coming from.

What do we do when those lazy irresponsible people have kids? Do we write the kids off as being unlucky and say fukk em, let em be doomed to being lazy irresponsible adults?

How do we change the mentality? How do we prevent people from growing up to be lazy irresponsible adults?
Well, all you can do for them is hope that they choose to be excellent people. I got my fingers crossed for 'em, but that's about it. If I'm in a position to help one of them by giving them a shot at a position or if I have a scholarship fund I'll hook 'em up with some ends, so long as they demonstrate that they're worth it.
 

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Well, all you can do for them is hope that they choose to be excellent people. I got my fingers crossed for 'em, but that's about it. If I'm in a position to help one of them by giving them a shot at a position or if I have a scholarship fund I'll hook 'em up with some ends, so long as they demonstrate that they're worth it.

So you'd like to keep them at a distance, and throw them a couple scraps whenever you see fit?

Isn't that what they get now? It hasn't worked so far, so more needs to be done.

Like I said, you are as much of the problem as the worthless adults you like to talk about. The kids don't give a fukk cause the adults don't give a fukk on both sides of "the hood". These kids need positive influences and outlooks not scholarships.
 

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So you'd like to keep them at a distance, and throw them a couple scraps whenever you see fit?

Isn't that what they get now? It hasn't worked so far, so more needs to be done.

Like I said, you are as much of the problem as the worthless adults you like to talk about. The kids don't give a fukk cause the adults don't give a fukk on both sides of "the hood". These kids need positive influences and outlooks not scholarships.
A couple of scraps? Scholarships and jobs are scraps?

What do you want people to do? Give them handouts? Tried that for decades. See where that has gotten them?

Haven't you been reading this thread? These people have limited time in this country. The culture they come from is dying out, thank God. Those that can't save themselves are doomed. The sooner these people are eliminated from the cultural landscape the better.
 

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A couple of scraps? Scholarships and jobs are scraps?

Yes, if they can't even make it to the jobs, or scholarships then yes, you are throwing scraps instead of actually trying to help.

What do you want people to do? Give them handouts? Tried that for decades. See where that has gotten them?
Scholarships and jobs ARE handouts. I advocate mentoring and educating them on the world outside of their small neighborhoods, and equipping them with the tools they need to take advantage of opportunities that might arise.
Haven't you been reading this thread? These people have limited time in this country. The culture they come from is dying out, thank God. Those that can't save themselves are doomed. The sooner these people are eliminated from the cultural landscape the better.

Havn't you been reading the thread "these people" are having more babies than anyone else so unless someone steps in to help the children the cycle is destined to repeat itself.
 

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The only way to change the mentality is to set a positive example for the KIDS which is what this thread is about, and precisely what all three of them are arguing against.

Yes, A positive example helps but is not exactly, you can have all the positive examples but if you are not making use of any of them then it's all for nothing.

I'd argue there are enough positive examples for every type of person going through any type of circumstance (gender, race, disability, etc..) that can inspire people to aspire for their own excellence. At they end of the day some people are going have to be accountable for their own actions.
 

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Yes, A positive example helps but is not exactly, you can have all the positive examples but if you are not making use of any of them then it's all for nothing.
That's my point. These poor inner-city kids don't know how to make use of opportunities that are made available to them. We can have all the social assistance programs in the world, but if theses kids don't even no how access and use these programs to their advantage, then they will never make anything of themselves.

I'd argue there are enough positive examples for every type of person (gender, race, disability, etc..) that can inspire people to aspire for their own excellence. They just have to be accountable for their actions.

There are not very many positive examples of their friends and neighbors doing well, and starting families, with good positive relationships. Yeah they see wealthy black people on tv, but those people are just as foreign to them as the white folks on tv. And we are talking about KIDS, they don't know right from wrong unless somebody tells them.
 
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