Blacks and Arabs the Detroit Divide

[Danktoker94]

Blacks and Arabs: The Conversation Check out this article very informing about the love hate relationship between Arabs and blacks in Detroit very informative to see how anti blackness and certain parts of immigration co exist

 

[Poitier]

Dearborn

 

[K.Dot]

@Chill

 

[BooksnCookies]

There's no love. It's all hate on my end.

 

[3rdWorld]

Im still amazed Blacks are hated more Arabs..
Either way, now love here.

 

[DatNkkaCutty]

Arabs wanna come into an urban area...open up shop and exploit nggas for revenue...but show their ass when nggas in their establishments.... Knowin months prior to comin to the US...they were shyttin in a pot behind their shack back home. The audacity....

 

[Poitier]

There's no love. It's all hate on my end.

The way they treat Black women should be more than enough for us to kick them out of our hoods

 

[Misreeya]

I will be brutally honest, the reality is no one want to be mistreated or discriminated in the host nation. I had seen this countless times in Australia, New Zealand, UK people want to be closer to the ruling class, so that is just the order and reality of things for us simple "humans". I give you and example of the realness of this.

The subject was this article about this(North) Sudanese girl dealing with the complexity of race in Canada i believe.


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and response of fellow Arabs about her article, and here are a few comments.




From a Egyptian(male) in Egypt.

To be honest the text is so full of hyperbole...as I was reading I thought to myself that this girl must be completely sub-saharan African looking. But she could easily pass as any khaleeji or even Egyptian or Moroccan... In fact if I just saw the picture I wouldn't have even described her as 'black'

I feel like all that painstaking navel-gazing was done needlessly and probably only because she's Sudanese so she feels the need to identify as being 'black'.

I'm not belittling what she's writing about, I'm just saying there are far blacker Arabs all over the region from Morocco to Egypt to Saudi to Kuwait to Iraq, and that I'm surprised she self-identifies so strongly as being 'black'.

Sudanese girl quote from article
I basked, and still do, in an undeniable shade privilege among black colleagues and peers despite being subject to virulent colourism and racism from white-passing and brown-identified Arabs.

Egyptian guy quote
What is this?? The girl is 100% brown for God's sake. When people say black they mean people who have sub-saharan African physical features. I've met Bahrainis and Kuwaitis that are 100% Arab who are far darker than she is. So either I've been oblivious to all sorts of racism all this time, or passages like this are just over-exaggerated and ridiculous:

One of my favourite pastimes is going ‘incognegro’, where I eavesdrop on Arabs having conversations in Arabic and surprise them with a confrontation at their racism (directed at others or towards myself).

From a Saudi that lives in the America responding to the male Egyptian font.

sapphicninja[S]

Egyptian poster
"as I was reading I thought to myself that this girl must be completely sub-saharan African looking. But she could easily pass as any khaleeji or even Egyptian or Moroccan... In fact if I just saw the picture I wouldn't have even described her as 'black'"

Saudi American response
That was my first reaction too. But rereading the article, it seems she grew up in Canada, or so I'm guessing. The Western world's understanding of race complicates life for those of us in the diaspora in some ways, which is why I found this article so interesting. One of the stranger experiences I've had in the US is when a friend from Jeddah came over. Like the author, I'd never have described him as black, but in the US, he's Black. I on the other hand pass for white American, so despite both being from Jeddah, we end up on opposite ends of the American racial hierarchy, and he has to deal with a kind of racism here that never comes my way. I wager that if he'd grown up here he would have identified as Black, because that would have been his social reality here, probably in the same way my white cousins who have grown up here don't seem to see themselves as Arab.

The divisions between Arabs become kind of magnified here I think, because Arab spaces become a place of refuge from the racism of the wider society. I can see how getting racism from other Arabs would push you towards other identities or social spaces where one does find acceptance.

So either I've been oblivious to all sorts of racism all this time, or passages like this are just over-exaggerated and ridiculous:

I don't doubt it. I can't count the times Arabs have talked within earshot of me in Arabic assuming I couldn't understand them.

I definitely understands this and leave this with no further comments to this thread.

 

[Danktoker94]

Dope read

 

[Ol’Otis]

Blacks and Arabs: The Conversation Check out this article very informing about the love hate relationship between Arabs and blacks in Detroit very informative to see how anti blackness and certain parts of immigration co exist

subz

 

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

Arabs followed the blueprint from Koreans in the 90s...
It's history repeating itself..

 

[BlackMajik]

fukk Arabs

 

[BlackMajik]

Arabs followed the blueprint from Koreans in the 90s...
It's history repeating itself..

No Arabs have been Anti Black for CENTURIES. It has nothing to do with anyone else

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Dearborn

But isn't that the end goal. Buildings self sustaining communities?

The only way to beat this is have black alternatives.

 

[Ol’Otis]

No Arabs have been Anti Black for CENTURIES. It has nothing to do with anyone else

he talking about Arabs owning the corner stores