Blacks in Europe

[Poh SIti Dawn]

I think a lot of you folk have an imahge of Europe that is a bit of a caricature. London, vast swathes of Brussels, Paris, Dublin, Madrid and other European cities are majority foreign born. Nobody gives a shyt what race you are, once you are respectful. Parts of it are more dodgy for a white person, than a non European. For example, ive seen more English people abused in bars in Ireland, than blacks. I could walk around Northern Ireland and bar one or two staunchly loyalist areas, I would be perfectly safe. If one of my white Catholic friends walked into a loyalist bar, he would end up in a cement mixer. Thats no exaggeration.

That said, there are some dodgy areas for non Europeans. But avoid them and you will be perfectly fine. Also, as this board is predominantly Americans of college age, you guys should be attempting to take advantage of the 18 billion euro scholarship fund the EU budgets for every year. You guys pay crazy student fees and get rodgered without any lube on them student loans -why not try and obtain a scholarship here?

I think that's just the consequences of slavery and races not getting along in America, so love with a woman isn't black becomes taboo for both parties, and black people are so caught up in being black in America that they think everyone outside of America is caught up in them being black.


Now what about these 18 billion Euro EU scholarship funds?

 

[pete clemenza]

Just got back from London and Paris last week. First time ever out there. Had to break my new passport in. There's a lot of Jamaicans, Caribbeans, West Africans, etc in London so I didn't see any racism first hand. I got the impression black folks were good in London. Of course I don't know about the hiring practices and political nature. I was an outsider looking in.

In Paris I saw tons of black dudes with Parisian white women on their arms and white males with black chicks as well. I was all over London but in Paris I didn't get to travel into the other/metro area of Paris. I was pretty much in the city proper/center where all the rest of the tourist shyt is located. The suburbs are a complete mystery for an outsider. I couldn't gage the quality of life for blacks in Paris like I did in London.. Both are amazing cities though

 

[IrishBrother]

I think that's just the consequences of slavery and races not getting along in America, so love with a woman isn't black becomes taboo for both parties, and black people are so caught up in being black in America that they think everyone outside of America is caught up in them being black.


Now what about these 18 billion Euro EU scholarship funds?

What are you hoping to study? You want to study in Germany, right?

 

[Peak]

guten targ brehs

Is that nor good afternoon in Deutschland?

 

[Green negs and spam]

Is that nor good afternoon in Deutschland?

I think it's "Good day" in German.

 

[Liu Kang]

Just got back from London and Paris last week. First time ever out there. Had to break my new passport in. There's a lot of Jamaicans, Caribbeans, West Africans, etc in London so I didn't see any racism first hand. I got the impression black folks were good in London. Of course I don't know about the hiring practices and political nature. I was an outsider looking in.

In Paris I saw tons of black dudes with Parisian white women on their arms and white males with black chicks as well. I was all over London but in Paris I didn't get to travel into the other/metro area of Paris. I was pretty much in the city proper/center where all the rest of the tourist shyt is located. The suburbs are a complete mystery for an outsider. I couldn't gage the quality of life for blacks in Paris like I did in London.. Both are amazing cities though

That's what I don't understand that US "interracial" concept, like if different complexions gives different type of humans and that leads to... crossbreeding. That notion is infamous to me, extremely racist.
And yeah, it's definitely not unusual to see mixed couples in Paris and in France overall. The only difficulties are sometimes between africans and arabs. In some suburbs, they don't seem to get along like that and there have been cases of Romeos and Juliets ending with deaths (which is extremely stupid).

But really, as a tourist, you don't even need to go to the suburbs because ain't nothing to see for you there. Life can be bad in some projects where poverty can be high (even in the very Paris : for example the 13th, 18th, 19th and 20th districts have rough areas that you should avoid at all costs) but that's like everywhere. Going to the parisian suburbs (the "Great Paris", which is really the parisian region and that's different from the city of Paris) is like visiting NYC and taking a few hours to go to Queensbridge...
France is a very centralized country unfortunately and Paris is like a magnet where everything happens, it's the heart and the brain of the country, and even if there are many others great touristic areas, Paris is a must see.
But Paris is also a distorted reality of the french way of life because life is different whether you go to the North (close to Belgium and the Netherlands), the South (the mediterranean way , corsica , or close to the catalan life), the West (either very celtic or atlantic), the East (more germanic) or Center being more rural (not really touristic but still)

I think that's just the consequences of slavery and races not getting along in America, so love with a woman isn't black becomes taboo for both parties, and black people are so caught up in being black in America that they think everyone outside of America is caught up in them being black.
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I think that's that, really.
I don't blame african americans acting that way considering the american history, I just sometimes find very uncomfortable that to some of you, everything revolves about your complexion, a-hem, your "race". It's just weird from my european point of view.....

 

[Mr. Freeze]

I experienced racism first hand when i was studying abroad in italy a couple years ago. took a while ***** out to lunch. They gave me cold lasagna, i sent it back. They gave it back to me cold again, so i up and left. Europe is full of racists. Only place i've been in europe that wasn't like that was the netherlands. but im now in corporate america and racism is still there. they doubt me once they first meet me, but i put in that extra and remove all doubt. they like damn that ***** is clean. my approach is to just accept it, its human nature. its everywhere and its never gonna change.

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

What are you hoping to study? You want to study in Germany, right?

Genau, Germany

 

[Peak]

I think it's "Good day" in German.

Yes, I think so...and to think, I used to be so good at German in school. What a waste...smh

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Are there many black owned businesses in these nations, friends?

 

[pete clemenza]

That's what I don't understand that US "interracial" concept, like if different complexions gives different type of humans and that leads to... crossbreeding. That notion is infamous to me, extremely racist.
And yeah, it's definitely not unusual to see mixed couples in Paris and in France overall. The only difficulties are sometimes between africans and arabs. In some suburbs, they don't seem to get along like that and there have been cases of Romeos and Juliets ending with deaths (which is extremely stupid).

But really, as a tourist, you don't even need to go to the suburbs because ain't nothing to see for you there. Life can be bad in some projects where poverty can be high (even in the very Paris : for example the 13th, 18th, 19th and 20th districts have rough areas that you should avoid at all costs) but that's like everywhere. Going to the parisian suburbs (the "Great Paris", which is really the parisian region and that's different from the city of Paris) is like visiting NYC and taking a few hours to go to Queensbridge...
France is a very centralized country unfortunately and Paris is like a magnet where everything happens, it's the heart and the brain of the country, and even if there are many others great touristic areas, Paris is a must see.
But Paris is also a distorted reality of the french way of life because life is different whether you go to the North (close to Belgium and the Netherlands), the South (the mediterranean way , corsica , or close to the catalan life), the West (either very celtic or atlantic), the East (more germanic) or Center being more rural (not really touristic but still)


I think that's that, really.
I don't blame african americans acting that way considering the american history, I just sometimes find very uncomfortable that to some of you, everything revolves about your complexion, a-hem, your "race". It's just weird from my european point of view.....

This is the shyt I like doing though.. but with caution of course. I'll spend a little time in the tourist areas and take a few pics but I really like seeing the neighborhoods and simply seeing how people live and how its similar or different to how I live. In London we saw Big Ben, Tower Bridge, Leicester Square, etc but we also strolled around Brixton, Tottenham, Notting Hill, North London, etc. I was just curious how life was outside the city circle of Paris. When I got a ride to Charles de Gaulle airport I found out that the metro/outer area of Paris is huge. I found this site right here, and it has some photos to peep
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=558849

 

[Liu Kang]

This is the shyt I like doing though.. but with caution of course. I'll spend a little time in the tourist areas and take a few pics but I really like seeing the neighborhoods and simply seeing how people live and how its similar or different to how I live. In London we saw Big Ben, Tower Bridge, Leicester Square, etc but we also strolled around Brixton, Tottenham, Notting Hill, North London, etc. I was just curious how life was outside the city circle of Paris. When I got a ride to Charles de Gaulle airport I found out that the metro/outer area of Paris is huge. I found this site right here, and it has some photos to peep
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=558849

Oh I see, well, that's nice then.
And when I was stating that there were rough areas, they were obviously limited. The whole suburbs are not war zones :D

If you're interested, here the map of the parisian region called "Ile-de-France" (and what people see as Paris wordlwide) :

Well, Paris, is just the red shape (area code : 75) and has really 2 million inhabitants. The 12 million deep "Paris" is the whole region (just add 1.5mill for each 7 departments around). And the underground only goes to the inner ring mostly (orange), if you want to go to the outer ring (yellow), you have to take the suburbian lines. So that maybe why when you went to the Airport, you were able to see the outer Paris because this airport is located in Roissy (95), the other public parisian one being in Orly (94).

Here's a post I wrote in HLa few months back about "no-go zones" in France : http://www.thecoli.com/threads/british-soldier-gets-beheaded-in-woolwich.115902/page-6#post-4350085

 

[WorcesterSauce]

Are there many black owned businesses in these nations, friends?

Why wouldn't there be?

@IrishBrother the Irish are OK I've been there many time and I have family there (we are Ghanaians). I get the odd stare and my cousins like living there they moved when they were in their early teens from Ghana but fit right in. My uncle has talked about racism he thinks a lot of them resent blacks because many of the Africans there are in top professions doctors, lawyer, scientists ect. I'm from London and I haven't experienced any blatant racism, it is so subtle sometimes you wonder if you are being paranoid because they aren't so ouvert. I live in the South West of England were there are very few blacks, I do get stares and some black men have said they get name called and shouted at in the streets where I live. Asians (Pakistanis, Indians and co.) get it the worst without a doubt when it comes to your everyday street racist but institutional racism is alive and well for black and Asian folks.

I've been to quite a few European countries and I found the Dutch to be the worst, heard a lot of stories about some of the poorer European nations like Spain, Italy and the Eastern block area which is expected.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

I was told not to walk the streets of Amsterdam at night by a random citizen there while walking around around 2 - 3 am. . He looked to be in fear for my life. I looked around and looked at him like and told him thank you, friend.

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

@Liu Kang yeah, it's weird. I mean I thinki it's hard for Europeans to understand it. I've always been cool with everyone, kicked it with Russians, Bosnians, Hispanics, whites, blacks, just always had that international thing going on, but still got caught up in the race bs. Went to Germany for the first time and it's like I wasn't black, I was just myself. Kicked it with black Germans and white Germans, but they weren't black or white Germans, they were just German. And there I felt as if I weren't black, I was just me; an individual. I feel like that here in America, but there I felt like I was allowed to be like everyone else was.