Blake Griffin is so annoying to watch

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Amare had the fastest first step from a big that I have ever seen, Griffin may jump higher but he wasn't close to Amare athletically. That move he hit Duncan with, ball faked, jab stepped then went around Timothy like he wasn't even there had me like :scusthov:



Found it, 32 seconds....unreal first step for someone 6"10 250lbs.
Amare Stoudemire ::: S.T.A.T. - YouTube
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I thought his rebound rate was up, but turns out that's been dropping since his rookie year. I have no explaination for that other than rebounding is effort, and he's clearly not giving much on the boards.

yeah his rebounding has dropped every year. there is no reason for him not to average a double double. he should do that in his sleep.
 

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I hate to say it, but Blake and Love are best fits are losing type of teams. Their games aren't conducive to winning Basketball. Love and Griffin are at their best ball dominating and they have negative impact their PG's. I am not a fan of either player but if they make some adjustments, I would like them more.

Legit areas where Griffin can improve:
Griffin needs a to go move in the post.
Griffin needs to be better in terms of team defense. He needs to watch more film.
Griffin needs to get tougher like Kobe did when he matured as a player.

Now, I think these are realistic things Griffin can do to improve as a PF.
 

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blake griffin shoots on his way down when he shoots a jumper. it looks so weird


dirk > griffin


give me dirk any day over that bum
 
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I thought his rebound rate was up, but turns out that's been dropping since his rookie year. I have no explaination for that other than rebounding is effort, and he's clearly not giving much on the boards.

yeah his rebounding has dropped every year. there is no reason for him not to average a double double. he should do that in his sleep.

His decrease in rebounding rate is mostly to do with DeAndre's increase in minutes and personnel changes.
 

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Jordan can't be the reason, his minutes per game are down from last year and the year before. Just seems like Blake said fukk it, we got other rebounders.

The pace was went down tremendously since his 2nd year. The style of play is might have hampered him as well. Playing with Kaman was better for him to get bounds since Kaman actually boxes out which gave Griffin some easy boards. He didn't become a worse rebounder.
 
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Jordan can't be the reason, his minutes per game are down from last year and the year before. Just seems like Blake said fukk it, we got other rebounders.

I'm talking about Jordan's increase of minutes over Blake's rookie season and sophomore season and the drop since then:

LOWER RPG:

2010/2011 Season - 38 MPG / 3.3 ORPG / 12.1 RPG - Per 48 = 15.3 RPG

2011/2012 Season - 36.2 MPG / 3.3 ORPG / 10.9 RPG - Per 48 = 14.4 RPG

Equal minutes and Griffin averaged 0.9 less total rebounds compared to his rookie season, however if you take into account DeAndre Jordan's increase in MPG (25.6 to 27.2) which increased his RPG (7.2 to 8.3) from the last two seasons = the 1.6 minutes and 1.1 rebounds more from Jordan in the 2011/2012 season, that Griffin didn't have hindering/influencing his own rebounding numbers in his rookie season.

Combined with Blake's drop in minutes:

2010/2011 Season - 38.0 MPG
2011/2012 Season - 36.2 MPG
2012/2012 Season - 32.5 MPG

Then you weigh into account personnel (adapting to CP3's style/pace), with more minutes distributed throughout the frontcourt.
 

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Amare was a special offensive PF. He was excellent at the face-up, the PnR, the PnP, and explosive. That was one of the most talented offensive players I'd seen in my life at PF. He could do it all. Too bad he lost his athleticism to injuries. His BBIQ was good as a PF. He knew how to play his position, didn't know much about everyone but still, he was special.

:damn: Amare in his prime was just :ooh: One of the few that could go toe to toe with Duncan scoring for scoring in the playoffs.
 
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That's not his game. You either have that game or you don't. He has never been a movement PF and he will never be a movement PF. That's like asking Tracy McGrady or Vince Carter to be Reggie Miller or Rip Hamilton. It will never happen. You also have to have very good to elite BBIQ to be a PnR PF to begin with. Griffin is a face-up scoring big who kills you with quickness and athleticism. CP3 and him are a bad match for each other. Honestly, they would be better for him if they had Bledsoe at PG but they would be worse as a team.

I think it's a major stretch to hope that Griffin jump-shot becomes like Malone. That's just not his talent. Griffin is what he is and if you let him do him, he is damn good at it.

ehhh, Hakeem Olajuwon was also NOT the smooth finesse player he was in the 90's. He grew into that. He changed his game.

PLayers can change.

You say Blake is a face-up scoring big, and that's EXACTLY what Karl Malone was. How many times did you see Karl Malone play with his back to the basket and back somebody down, or hit a turn around or fadeaway ala Bernard King? Rarely, if ever.

He played facing the basket.

Right now Blake has only his quickness to get from that 15 ft baseline area to the basket. And depending on the defense, that option is not always available.

His issue is technique mainly. He releases his shot on the way down and he floats away while in the air on a faceup. Weird.
 

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Amare was a special offensive PF. He was excellent at the face-up, the PnR, the PnP, and explosive. That was one of the most talented offensive players I'd seen in my life at PF. He could do it all. Too bad he lost his athleticism to injuries. His BBIQ was good as a PF. He knew how to play his position, didn't know much about everyone but still, he was special.

Blake is no Amare. Blake can be unstoppable on offense but he doesn't really lead to championship ball if he's the man or not.

Him and Kevin Love are this gen's Derrick Coleman and Vince Carter.

who's supposed to be this gen's coleman?:beli:
 
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