Blasphemy killing in Pakistani University

[GetInTheTruck]

I just find it REAL convenient when ppl say that this radical type thinking isnt the norm and like to only point to these extremists.

No true Scotsman fallacy should be renamed no true muslim fallacy.

 

[the cac mamba]

This is happening in rural villages where the people have 0 education.

Pakistan is an Islamic country with blasphemy laws on the books and this dude was killed in a university where people are supposed to have sort of educational background. There's no comparison.

plus, honor killings have nothing to do with blasphemy killings

 

[BocaRear]

breh, they killed on behalf of islam. protecting the integrity of islam what would they have killed him for if not islam?

you're a good poster, but dont go full blown apologist on me

the vast majority of muslims are peaceful, and good people. extremist muslims are violent savages, who kill in the name of islam. those are the ones this article is about

It doesn't matter what they claimed to have killed for. Islam is evidentially the justification and not the cause of these actions. I think you know this too.

These issues are multifaceted and are effected by various different factors.

If Islam is truly the cause of a lot of this violence then why do Muslims that live in the West not conduct these sort of actions?

A lot of these examples can be explained by socio-economic and cultural reasons.

This is happening in rural villages where the people have 0 education.

Pakistan is an Islamic country with blasphemy laws on the books and this dude was killed in a university where people are supposed to have sort of educational background. There's no comparison.

I could post a whole lot more examples to showcase people killing in the name of Hinduism. Does that mean Hinduism is some sort of death cult? Of course not

You're acting as though Islam is exceptional in the fact that people commit atrocities in its name when that's not at all true.

People often kill others and use religion as a justification to do so.

As for the blasphemy laws in Pakistan, well that tell us about Pakistani culture and society not about Islam so I fail to see the point you're trying to make.

 

[Menelik II]

OP, you should have attached the video

about 50+ dudes shouting Allu Akbah beating him with sticks on the ground, then a policeman finally gets in but he's already a bloody pulp

 

[Menelik II]

It was socio-economic reasons

Spoiler: multifaceted video

culturally jumping on his dead body
beaten with socio economic sticks

 

[GetInTheTruck]

I could post a whole lot more examples to showcase people killing in the name of Hinduism. Does that mean Hinduism is some sort of death cult? Of course not

straw man, nobody is arguing that Hindus, or anybody else for that matter, are perfect. But, "Hinduism" is not an organized religion. Islam is. There is no central authority for what a "hindu" is supposed to consider to be their spiritual basis. There is in Islam, and it is Qur'an and Sunnah (hadeeth). Both incite and encourage violence against the kuffar aka non-muslims.

You're acting as though Islam is exceptional in the fact that people commit atrocities in its name when that's not at all true.

It is exceptional in that it is the only religion whose followers today insist on following their holy book to the letter and waging a holy war against non-muslims. The Bible has verses similar to the Qur'an which encourage violence, but Christians and Jews have been tamed by secularism over the years. Muslims have not. Any attempt to get them to reform is met with accusations of Islamophobia.

People often kill others and use religion as a justification to do so.

and those people are most often Muslims.

As for the blasphemy laws in Pakistan, well that tell us about Pakistani culture and society not about Islam so I fail to see the point you're trying to make.

Oh really? This is an Islamic question/answer site...all the questions are answered by a Shaikh who is an expert on Fiqh.

Refutation of those who claim that the hadiths which speak of executing the apostate are contrary to the Qur’an - islamqa.info

Some of these hadiths meet the highest standards of soundness. Al-Bukhaari (6876) and Muslim (2676) narrated that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim who testifies that there is no god but Allah and that I am the Messenger of Allah except in three cases: a previously-married adulterer; a life for a life; and the one who leaves his religion and separates from the main body of Muslims.”

Part of this was also narrated by al-Bukhaari (6922), such as the hadith: “Whoever changes his religion, execute him.”

All of the Sahaabah agreed with Abu Bakr as-Siddeeq (may Allah be pleased with him) with regard to fighting the apostates. ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allah be pleased with him) executed a group of apostates during his era, and the Sahaabah agreed with him concerning that, except that some of them disagreed with the way in which he executed them. Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allah be pleased with him) thought that they should have been executed by the sword instead of burning, as ‘Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) did to them.

Al-Bukhaari (6922) narrated that ‘Ikrimah said: Some heretics were brought to ‘Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) and he burned them. News of that reached Ibn ‘Abbaas and he said: If it were me, I would not have burned them, because of the prohibition of the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him); do not punish with the punishment of Allah. But I would have executed them, because the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: Whoever changes his religion, execute him.”


This is not Pakistani culture. Pakistani culture used to be the same as Indian culture, until they started to pretend they were Arabs. This is the culture of your Prophet.