Blockbuster Bubble finna pop

[Ironman]

I spoke on the horror genre. People working within that genre have shown that you can get new ideas out there and have people get into those ideas but you can also throw nostalgia out there and do very well if you treat the original materials with respect. So you see a franchise like The Conjuring rise to what it is now... you see IT have major success because they took their time with it and did well, you see Peele's movies do very well because they are fresh ideas they open the genre and advance it in interesting ways..

We aren't seeing that with action outside of John Wick. We aren't seeing that with comedy at all. And the thriller/drama genre has dried up. Not a lot of new ideas out there. People will come out if they feel it's worthwhile.

Besides John Wick I'd argue Mission impossible is carrying the action genre

 

[Days of Future Piff]

Besides John Wick I'd argue Mission impossible is carrying the action genre

Tom Cruise for doing his own stunts, etc. in the MI movies though. He's one of the GOATS in that regard.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

That's fine but as far as a flop, as in something that tanked at the box office? Nah it wasn't that. I'm not defending the flick, just saying if we're talking facts here, lets get them all out

I think we use the term flop in slightly different ways. To me a flop is dependent on what the movie is set out to do. Solo was a huge investment and then they basically doubled down on that investment by switching director's and reshooting damn near the whole movie. So it needed to do way better than it did, to me that's a flop..

Like, I can look at a movie like The Nun which made a little bit less worldwide than Solo but it was a tremendous success on a $22M budget. Profits out the ass.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Besides John Wick I'd argue Mission impossible is carrying the action genre

Mission Impossible is great but it's so big now that its a tentpole for Paramount. It's getting bigger and bigger with each one I was just talkin about mid level budget action joints like we used to see back in the day... outside of John Wick they are hard to come by

 

[MartyMcFly]

I think we use the term flop in slightly different ways. To me a flop is dependent on what the movie is set out to do. Solo was a huge investment and then they basically doubled down on that investment by switching director's and reshooting damn near the whole movie. So it needed to do way better than it did, to me that's a flop..

Like, I can look at a movie like The Nun which made a little bit less worldwide than Solo but it was a tremendous success on a $22M budget. Profits out the ass.

That's fair. To me as long as it makes A profit, I'm good. How much profit you make is irrelevant to me. But I hear you

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Aladdin at 4x it's budget. Will Smith haters

We don't know what they spent on advertising, that is not factored into the budget and it looks like it was a ton. It's a success, I know they were expecting a billion though

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

That's fair. To me as long as it makes A profit, I'm good. How much profit you make is irrelevant to me. But I hear you

I mean we post on the coli though Deadline showed in an article how Batman vs. Superman profited over $100M when it was all set and done but obviously some people in the studio didn't think that was enough and people on the coli think that's a "flop".. so it's dependent on your definition of it.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I mean we post on the coli though Deadline showed in an article how Batman vs. Superman profited over $100M when it was all set and done but obviously some people in the studio didn't think that was enough and people on the coli think that's a "flop".. so it's dependent on your definition of it.

Yeah and you know I don't give a fukk about the coli's perception of stuff im sorry, I don't. As a whole anyway. A lot of posters here know their shyt and others just talk out their ass because they read something on IG or Twitter and didn't bother to actually research. Making a profit counts to me. The studio's expectations are out of my hands and that's on them

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Yeah and you know I don't give a fukk about the coli's perception of stuff im sorry, I don't.

i hear u, we've cleaned the place up some tho

 

[Rekkapryde]

We don't know what they spent on advertising, that is not factored into the budget and it looks like it was a ton. It's a success, I know they were expecting a billion though

rule of thumb is double your production costs to account for marketing/advertising. They did 4x

 

[Dwolf]

Godzilla isn't a flop tho

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Godzilla isn't a flop tho

Maybe not overall but it Flopped in the U.S.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

It made a little money but they lost money on that joint breh, they redid damn near the entire movie.. the actual cost is estimated to be

yes it was. 275 million budget, recouped 390 mill in theaters. You usually need to double production to make profit. Sad part is that it wasn't a bad movie. But TLJ soured it for a lot of people, me included.

Solo was a flop no doubt. shyt couldn't even break 400 ww and it's a star wars flick. what a fukk up.

TLJ was terrible in every way tho so might have been a factor but imo, just trying to replace Harrison Ford with some nobody wasn't fooling audiences either.

Oh let's get a random white man and since it's star wars we finna eat!

fukk Disney.

 

[Dwolf]

Maybe not overall but it Flopped in the U.S.

It didn't flop but it did

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

It didn't flop but it did

Its possible it will be considered a flop when it's all said and done.

But it did flop in North America, am I wrong?