Blueprint 3 was an awkward ass album

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American gangster is a true successor to the Blueprint albums.

Blueprint 3 is really Kingdom come 2, magna CartA = kingdom come 3

American gangster is so good man. Like another poster said he had Puff to A&R it. Also what people don’t talk about is he had the movie to give it direction.
 

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Actually, this album repeats the same mistakes of Kingdom Come: Jay attempting to "rewrite the rules" to stay relevant. MCHG suffers from the same.

And its like Jay Z took cues from T.I. for both Kingdom Come and BP3. Kingdom Come dropped the same year as T.I.'s King and Kingdom Come was like Jay Z answer to King being the only rap album to go platinum that year. Then T.I.'s Paper Trail started this trend of these huge stadium sized power pop rap records i.e. "Live Ya Life" feat. Rihanna.

Then there's the weird futuristic sound he was going for with the Timbaland tracks. Timbaland was struggling to find his sound after having a monster two years with Justin, Nelly, and his own Shock Value album, but the chemistry with Jay was off. MCHG was a better album IMO, but Jay was lazy lyrically and his once elite flow was showing signs of fatigue.

Then there's the Kanye/No I.D. songs, which were dope for the most part, but there was still "Hate" and "Young Forever". Awkward time for Kanye too as this was in transition from 808's going into the MBDTF era. Hip Hop was at an awkward phase as a whole. The Hipster/Blog era was something else with Wale, B.o.B, Kid Cudi, and them coming up. That whole Travis Porter, J-Money style comingnout of Atlanta. Flocka debuting. Gucci Mane breaking through the mainstream. Drake becoming the biggest rapper out. Cole impacting. Nicki Minaj impacting.

How I felt about that era. I started going deeper and deeper in the blogs/soundcloud rabbit-hole at that time as a result.
 

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Awkward album. Awkward era. What was a great hip-hop album that released in 2009?

Eminem Relapse? LMAO Nope,
Loso's Way? NOPE
Jadakiss? Nah, ok.
Deeper Than Rap? Good, but no classic
Clipse? They broke up after that album lol

Literally, Wayne was heading to jail, T.I. was in jail, Kanye was exhausting his creative juices (which was what happened on BP3) so that he could go on his 3 year run, 50's momentum is dead, Dipset is basically dead, Drake and Nicki were just bubbling..... so many weird things.

Maybe more on the mixtape circuit, but nothing major commercially. Also, the House/EDM wave changed the sound for everyone.
 

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Awkward album. Awkward era. What was a great hip-hop album that released in 2009?

Eminem Relapse? LMAO Nope,
Loso's Way? NOPE
Jadakiss? Nah, ok.
Deeper Than Rap? Good, but no classic
Clipse? They broke up after that album lol

Literally, Wayne was heading to jail, T.I. was in jail, Kanye was exhausting his creative juices (which was what happened on BP3) so that he could go on his 3 year run, 50's momentum is dead, Dipset is basically dead, Drake and Nicki were just bubbling..... so many weird things.

Maybe more on the mixtape circuit, but nothing major commercially. Also, the House/EDM wave changed the sound for everyone.

This

That was when the hot acts of the early 2000s guard began to oversaturate and enter flabby and sick territory thus ushering in the changing of the guard into the next era
 

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Awkward album. Awkward era. What was a great hip-hop album that released in 2009?

Eminem Relapse? LMAO Nope,
Loso's Way? NOPE
Jadakiss? Nah, ok.
Deeper Than Rap? Good, but no classic
Clipse? They broke up after that album lol

Literally, Wayne was heading to jail, T.I. was in jail, Kanye was exhausting his creative juices (which was what happened on BP3) so that he could go on his 3 year run, 50's momentum is dead, Dipset is basically dead, Drake and Nicki were just bubbling..... so many weird things.

Maybe more on the mixtape circuit, but nothing major commercially. Also, the House/EDM wave changed the sound for everyone.
During this time frame I got more deeper into the indie scene and started revisiting albums from the 90’s-00’s that I previously missed.

I believe this was the same year or the year after Gucci Mane was red hot and Jeezy was starting to cool off after coming off The Recession. Nicki Minaj was bubbling, Drake had yet to become popular, J Cole wasn’t known yet etc.

It was definitely a transitional period that Jay got caught up in.

I also agree that Jay needed an A&R at that time but in his mind he was too big to fail (which was true) but the music SUFFERED as a result.
 

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I'm glad as a Nyer I'm not the only one who feels this way. I HATE Empire State of Mind. It's such a yuppie/gentrified/Yankee fan/ magas in 2009 loved it song.
I loathe that track…can’t deny it’s a smash but I’ve always hateddddd that shyt

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During this time frame I got more deeper into the indie scene and started revisiting albums from the 90’s-00’s that I previously missed.

I believe this was the same year or the year after Gucci Mane was red hot and Jeezy was starting to cool off after coming off The Recession. Nicki Minaj was bubbling, Drake had yet to become popular, J Cole wasn’t known yet etc.

It was definitely a transitional period that Jay got caught up in.

I also agree that Jay needed an A&R at that time but in his mind he was too big to fail (which was true) but the music SUFFERED as a result.

Yep, you're right that Gucci was red hot during this era. Jeezy was touring off the Recession in 2009. Cole was also unknown and was on that same tour (alongside Wale & Trey Songz). Oh - I forgot Wale debuted in 2009 too. Also a weird time.

Future was still a year away from his mixtape run. Ross used Deeper Than Rap to build off a mixtape run in 2010 leading to Teflon Don and his mini-run.

Jay got caught up in the transition, but I also think that his album was effectively a business experiment for Roc Nation. Cole & Wale got caught up in the experiments to some extent.

Juelz Santana wanted to keep Chris Brown on Back to the Crib, so the single was never pushed and his album was effectively never released after that.
 

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First two tracks :ehh:

Then it’s just completely ass.

It’s fukking terrible.

Probably his worst album. Kingdome Come > Magna Carta > Blueprint 3
Def better than both Kingdom Come and Magna Carta. Ur wildin. And Thank You is one of my all time fav Jay songs. I’m SUPER mad he left off Brooklyn Go Hard tho. shyt pissed me off in real time.
 
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