Bone Thugs: Tupac Got At Us For Using "Thug" In Our Name

[Afromaticz]

Bone was way WAY WAY bigger than Pac, for years.
Especially, years before the ny incident.
When, bone was out.
no other gangsta rapper existed to any regular ghetto rap fan type.
Pac was not in bone's hemisphere when bone was at their height.
As dr, admin issues and pr of a low quality dr dre-less snoop record.
pretty much ended dr's reign, cerebrally from not including a ruthless act as relevant.
This, was during the ep and definitely till e.1999 dropped.
Which is what re-allowed easy.
To re-establish a portion of his former fanbases lost from no vaseline up until dr.
Which is also how the recently talked about
Plus, 95 was the first anemiac release year in rap since 84, at that exact time.
Which is why the marketing to Pac resonated the way it did, then.
Which also shows a definite previously, the cop shooting and
Plus, predating that even when Pac never really originally resonated with the ghetto gateway rapper crowd and in juice and seen as a more culturally based west coast act than a full gangsta rapper.
It wasn't until he signed with death row.
Then, made his fraudulent heel turn because of what he actually needed to cover up.
That is when he took the storm of the oh mama I repent direction of matw.
Then, flipped flopped.
As soon as he dropped his sig on a napkin to dr/suge.

So, all this talk of Pac being as large as bone.
when bone was bone bone is a lie.
nikka was trying to be bizzy, lazy, flesh, crazy in their whole swag.
Dalvin and devante, and snoop was morphed into looking like bone.
Nobody was walking around trying to scream thug life.
Or be on what pac was exactly in as far as thug life till dr.
Bone would be defiantly and definitely the precedent that was set first.
as far as people resonating with what the word thug connotates from that era till now.
After that is when Pac had his pr go on go mode.
All from his own negligence and violation of street code and just plain simple ethics is what lead to his career taking off.

Flash forward to 2016, and the pac formula has been nullified from having any effect for a decade.
Well eleven years to be exact, since 2oo5.
Ending with the idea and marketing of Gucci going to jail in the jeezy/gucci conflict.
Which is proof the victory lap.
they let rap have to draw ended.
Coming to an end at the Grammy awards presentation of outkast as artist of the year.
Then, dr dre as a lifetime awardee.
After that the doorway to the sales model of the thug life meets sales spike era was closed.


Now, rap is a Hodge lodge of all the exact shyt.
that went against any and every mainstream rap fan ideals.
as far as rap, is concerned
Making rap into effeminate buckbroke emo gangsta making triphop meets madonna's rays of light.
As far as mainstream pop rap is concerned.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

1.i see that except pac always had consious songs n hardcore/street rap mix.

mathw had death around the corner and shyt like heavy in the game.

but also had shyt like young nikkaz and old school.

plus he had troublesome 92....idk maybe im wrong .


2.

Before the ny situation, which lead to pac getting shot.
Pac would have been considered.
a visible cultural artist with west coast gangster rap sentiment.
That more resembled cube with Farrakhan and with bomb squad style production from the live squad.
Similar to pe except live sqaud had stylistic filtered music.
Than his later heel turn incarnation on dr.

Plus, matw was him becoming even more content and culturally driven direction wise.
given the court cases and the situation.
The thug life with over the top character on wax meets the unstable spitting guy confronting mtv.
Did not occur directionwise and content wise in his music till dr.
His release on bail from suge and everything, he is known for in mythos.
signaled the start and marketing of the Pac.
That would be used to draw on dr and posthumous wise.
That incarnation just like the pac.
Who, took direction from cube's material/content on Westside connection.
Became the same sellout artist cube became on wcc.
When, Pac sold out on dr.
Thug life incarnation style Pac.
That every general rap fan is marketed as his sole gateway was sellout death row heel pac.
Not the same visionary guy from du/samesong/brenda/strictly.
Totally different artist and even total regression skillwise as well..considering his new dumb down mass recording style.
to get out the paper napkin contract in dr in short time.
Pac was never that same really conscious deep cultural artist anymore at all.

Plus Pac was hiding what he did.
That resulted in him being shot in NYC as well..while, creating a fake battle and fake actual cultural and coastal war.
Centered around east/west coast and dumbed down ignant nikka rhetoric as well.
When you get confronted by a pac clone war Stan.
Ask them why he got shot in NYC.
While they are trying to give you a fully fake narcissistic recollection of the events.
Hinged on not telling the whole truth.
to cover up why that incident occurred to Pac as well.
Plus, why the Pac bites Westside connection style attack on the east/west coast was fraudulent, too.

Everything pac did from the time he touched down in ny.
Then had an entourage with the female.
pac became a coward, when he safety was threatened and hid from what happened and went to jail for.
Plus, was a complete coward to ol girl..that pac fans dismiss what happened to her. By grafting her like deseree Washington.
When, in this situation what occurred was not anywhere near.
What Tyson insinuates did not occur in the tyson/washington situation. or what is factually written that supposedly Happened to Washington.
Fans, just deflected their emotion and reasoning for siding against the tyson's incarceration on pac, wrongly.
The reason you don't even know the female.
or the facts is it was covered up in the media.
Yet, the transcripts.
Plus, the negligence Pac showed.
Plus, the disloyalty, negligence, lack of compassion and violation of street CODES, WITH AN S.
That pac did when in the situation and confronted with police.
Eventually leading to him being in jail hoping to get 2M bail.
Leading to his desparation to leave being imprisoned.
He signed his life away and became a new character.
Once his ink was on a napkin contract.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Okay Mr Pac fan what happened in ny.
Just before you pull your noob Pac obsession style run of posts to show your over process unfocused emotion.
Other people get scared of from you Pac cline war stans jn bulk.
Does not work on me and I know the facts.
So, please get your info right and double check all your facts with the same emotion and fervor.
You used to get all the bootleg makaveli tapes and the features with bcc/busta that could have ruined their career as well.
If, Pac lived to created his fraudulent apology draw based music run culturally.
Using bcc and busts as pawns as well in all this.
You, do know the transcripts and people with connection to what factually really happened.
Populate this community, and this community had the fed transcripts, breh.

So.stop posting smilies and tell us what happened in NYC, FOR REAL.
Not your Pac clone war Stan aesop fable, you take erroneously.



Art Barr

nikkaz better stop making culture thieves their idols in rap.
If dude will sellout the culture.
You can't trust, period.

 

[Axum Ezana]

Before the ny situation, which lead to pac getting shot.
Pac would have been considered.
a visible cultural artist with west coast gangster rap sentiment.
That more resembled cube with Farrakhan and with bomb squad style production from the live squad.
Similar to pe except live sqaud had stylistic filtered music.
Than his later heel turn incarnation on dr.

Plus, matw was him becoming even more content and culturally driven direction wise.
given the court cases and the situation.
The thug life with over the top character on wax meets the unstable spitting guy confronting mtv.
Did not occur directionwise and content wise in his music till dr.
His release on bail from suge and everything, he is known for in mythos.
signaled the start and marketing of the Pac.
That would be used to draw on dr and posthumous wise.
That incarnation just like the pac.
Who, took direction from cube's material/content on Westside connection.
Became the same sellout artist cube became on wcc.
When, Pac sold out on dr.
Thug life incarnation style Pac.
That every general rap fan is marketed as his sole gateway was sellout death row heel pac.
Not the same visionary guy from du/samesong/brenda/strictly.
Totally different artist and even total regression skillwise as well..considering his new dumb down mass recording style.
to get out the paper napkin contract in dr in short time.
Pac was never that same really conscious deep cultural artist anymore at all.

Plus Pac was hiding what he did.
That resulted in him being shot in NYC as well..while, creating a fake battle and fake actual cultural and coastal war.
Centered around east/west coast and dumbed down ignant nikka rhetoric as well.
When you get confronted by a pac clone war Stan.
Ask them why he got shot in NYC.
While they are trying to give you a fully fake narcissistic recollection of the events.
Hinged on not telling the whole truth.
to cover up why that incident occurred to Pac as well.
Plus, why the Pac bites Westside connection style attack on the east/west coast was fraudulent, too.

Everything pac did from the time he touched down in ny.
Then had an entourage with the female.
pac became a coward, when he safety was threatened and hid from what happened and went to jail for.
Plus, was a complete coward to ol girl..that pac fans dismiss what happened to her. By grafting her like deseree Washington.
When, in this situation what occurred was not anywhere near.
What Tyson insinuates did not occur in the tyson/washington situation. or what is factually written that supposedly Happened to Washington.
Fans, just deflected their emotion and reasoning for siding against the tyson's incarceration on pac, wrongly.
The reason you don't even know the female.
or the facts is it was covered up in the media.
Yet, the transcripts.
Plus, the negligence Pac showed.
Plus, the disloyalty, negligence, lack of compassion and violation of street CODES, WITH AN S.
That pac did when in the situation and confronted with police.
Eventually leading to him being in jail hoping to get 2M bail.
Leading to his desparation to leave being imprisoned.
He signed his life away and became a new character.
Once his ink was on a napkin contract.


Art Barr

1.but it never was rape. he went down for "forcibly touching the buttocks "....no penetration . which i could believe ...but is only sexual harassment at best.

plus nikki d gave an account of pac where she said he exposed him self......but nothing about violently raping women or herself.......plus michele never said anything about him......







2.he already had thug life album out though. maybe he turned his back on being 75% consious/blackpanther/militant but i always saw that he was just talking about the progression of his life.

he still had songs like "wonda why they calll u bytch" and "white manz world."

he had songs with methodman on aeom....so it wasn't a complete e vs w beef imo. he flew big daddy kane out to west and they did songs together n chilled.

 

[Afromaticz]

Okay Mr Pac fan what happened in ny.
Just before you pull your noob Pac obsession style run of posts to show your over process unfocused emotion.
Other people get scared of from you Pac cline war stans jn bulk.
Does not work on me and I know the facts.
So, please get your info right and double check all your facts with the same emotion and fervor.
You used to get all the bootleg makaveli tapes and the features with bcc/busta that could have ruined their career as well.
If, Pac lived to created his fraudulent apology draw based music run culturally.
Using bcc and busts as pawns as well in all this.
You, do know the transcripts and people with connection to what factually really happened.
Populate this community, and this community had the fed transcripts, breh.

So.stop posting smilies and tell us what happened in NYC, FOR REAL.
Not your Pac clone war Stan aesop fable, you take erroneously.



Art Barr

nikkaz better stop making culture thieves their idols in rap.
If dude a sellout the culture.
You can't trust, period.

Bruh first off all you're never gonna catch me stannin for nobody...
nikkas can like whoever they want i couldnt care less.

BUT the least u could do is get your facts right, cause for a Misstra Know It All nikka like yourself your posts often seem to contain alot of fabricated bullshyt that you try to pass off as facts.

Do nikkas actually believe you..seriously bruh and that's why you're gettin that face

Again!

i guess you was there that night when Pac got clapped in NYC right? So tell me Art, was that you guarding the front entrance when Pac was gettin robbed in the lobby? Or where u chillin upstairs with Big and them?

Are u even from New York? Pac always had a relationship with certain nikkas from NYC...this was never an east west thing. nikkas was gettin killed and it aint had shyt to do with music or no damn coast.

Smiff N Wessun told Pac to keep his head up when he was jail..and Pac once he got out thanked them and told em that he would love to work with em on his album

The One Nation album was not a randomly thrown together compilation album..those were all cats that Pac was cool with or admired musically

Greg Nyce, Big Daddy Kane Eric B, Freddie Foxx, Outkast,Goodie Mob,Scarface,LS The Wu..all them nikkas..

And Busta was never part of that One Nation Album.
Lol and the fact that you would call that album a "fraudulent apology draw based music run culturally" just makes you sound very bitter..

I know most of the nikkas Pac rolled with personally and some of Big's homies are actually from my neighborhood so naw b you aint gotta tell me about no damn connections or fed transcripts.

And Pac's music from 1992-1995 was even more thugged out than his Death Row stuff

Have you even checked some of his older shyt?

You obviously dont like Pac and thats cool with me breh....just make sure you do ya googles properly next time.

Peace

 

[Art Barr]

1.but it never was rape. he went down for "forcibly touching the buttocks "....no penetration . which i could believe ...but is only sexual harassment at best.

plus nikki d gave an account of pac where she said he exposed him self......but nothing about violently raping women or herself.......plus michele never said anything about him......







2.he already had thug life album out though. maybe he turned his back on being 75% consious/blackpanther/militant but i always saw that he was just talking about the progression of his life.

he still had songs like "wonda why they calll u bytch" and "white manz world."

he had songs with methodman on aeom....so it wasn't a complete e vs w beef imo. he flew big daddy kane out to west and they did songs together n chilled.

I already talked about the narcissism in trying to use respected cultural artist in rap in full.
When Pac, was a fringe artist and after dr solidly against the culture.
Yet portraying like he was this west coast savior.
When, he really imprisoned every gateway gangsta rap fan.
into completely over emotional ignorance devoid of the facts for real.
That he was hiding and need sanctuary from.
So, real talk,....
What happened in the room to ol girl.
I know and Pac was negligent factually in the room.
From pac's own admission and that is what he went to jail for.
Plus, need to post bail for.
Plus, he was cowardly and fukk'n negligent as well.
So, please stop with all the narcissism of keep ya head up and all my black queen deflection to the content in his music bs..

Feral reaction wise, when he had to not be negligent.
when a black woman was around.
he was not on upholding a black woman.
He did not even react the way he did, when he saw two offduty civilan cops and went into all his panther based training.
That if you get the transcripts you gon be repulsed.
That is also why Pac fans mums the word around here on this shyt, too.
All because we all had the transcripts on this site in this community.
That other people, who were affected in this community lived and/or read them here.
To bad this community and the buildings and links were crushed way before the migration.
Or, those transcripts would be readily available.
still in this community as a downloadable factual commodity.



Also, your footage in Nikki d..does not aid Pac at all.
If you know what happened factually in ny.
when he was negligent.
Till, you get the transcripts in ny and factually know for yourself what happened.
Then, miss me with your emotional pac clone war Stan logic and bullshyt rhetoric


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Also, I know why those transcripts appeared because parties affected by this are amoung us here in this community, too.
You, just not that prolific a poster.
On here to make someone show there hand, and actually get up with you to know, tho.

Remember nikka, I am:

Art Barr

nikka, you are not.
So, remember it is shyt people are going to bring me.
you are not and won't have access to authenticate like me, at all.

nikkaz in the know, know who I am.
The problem is,...
you nikkaz, need to get to know who don't and it would be who of you.
to get acquainted with me:

Art Barr = realest nikka alive

I ain't gon steer you wrong, cuhZ

 

[Axum Ezana]

Also, I know why those transcripts appeared because parties affected by this are amoung us here in this community, too.
You, just not that prolific a poster.
On here to make someone show there hand, and actually get up with you to know, tho.

Remember nikka, I am:

Art Barr

nikka, you are not.
So, remember it is shyt people are going to bring me.
you are not and won't have access to authenticate like me, at all.

nikkaz in the know, know who I am.
The problem is,...
you nikkaz, need to get to know who don't and it would be who of you.
to get acquainted with me:

Art Barr = realest nikka alive

I ain't gon steer you wrong, cuhZ

okay breh but u still aint showed shyt.

u a good poster when it comes to history of hip hop....but there are transcripts i can pull too.

showing a set up.

plus there is no perfect hip hop person or human literally ....everyone has a contradiction i could point out...maybe small or big.

but if there is a perfect hip hop CULTURALLY mc please recommend him.

 

[FS4LFE]

Pac is a clown to me. Momma boy who turned thug with extra bad behavior.

 

[MexicanKingpin]

Bone was way WAY WAY bigger than Pac, for years.
Especially, years before the ny incident.
When, bone was out.
no other gangsta rapper existed to any regular ghetto rap fan type.
Pac was not in bone's hemisphere when bone was at their height.
As dr, admin issues and pr of a low quality dr dre-less snoop record.
pretty much ended dr's reign, cerebrally from not including a ruthless act as relevant.
This, was during the ep and definitely till e.1999 dropped.
Which is what re-allowed easy.
To re-establish a portion of his former fanbases lost from no vaseline up until dr.
Which is also how the recently talked about
Plus, 95 was the first anemiac release year in rap since 84, at that exact time.
Which is why the marketing to Pac resonated the way it did, then.
Which also shows a definite previously, the cop shooting and
Plus, predating that even when Pac never really originally resonated with the ghetto gateway rapper crowd and in juice and seen as a more culturally based west coast act than a full gangsta rapper.
It wasn't until he signed with death row.
Then, made his fraudulent heel turn because of what he actually needed to cover up.
That is when he took the storm of the oh mama I repent direction of matw.
Then, flipped flopped.
As soon as he dropped his sig on a napkin to dr/suge.

So, all this talk of Pac being as large as bone.
when bone was bone bone is a lie.
nikka was trying to be bizzy, lazy, flesh, crazy in their whole swag.
Dalvin and devante, and snoop was morphed into looking like bone.
Nobody was walking around trying to scream thug life.
Or be on what pac was exactly in as far as thug life till dr.
Bone would be defiantly and definitely the precedent that was set first.
as far as people resonating with what the word thug connotates from that era till now.
After that is when Pac had his pr go on go mode.
All from his own negligence and violation of street code and just plain simple ethics is what lead to his career taking off.

Flash forward to 2016, and the pac formula has been nullified from having any effect for a decade.
Well eleven years to be exact, since 2oo5.
Ending with the idea and marketing of Gucci going to jail in the jeezy/gucci conflict.
Which is proof the victory lap.
they let rap have to draw ended.
Coming to an end at the Grammy awards presentation of outkast as artist of the year.
Then, dr dre as a lifetime awardee.
After that the doorway to the sales model of the thug life meets sales spike era was closed.


Now, rap is a Hodge lodge of all the exact shyt.
that went against any and every mainstream rap fan ideals.
as far as rap, is concerned
Making rap into effeminate buckbroke emo gangsta making triphop meets madonna's rays of light.
As far as mainstream pop rap is concerned.


Art Barr

Let's compare facts
Creeping on ah come up went 2x platinum in December of 1995
E.1999 eternal went 4x platinum in July of 1996

Now 2pacs turn
2pacalypse went gold April of 1995
And strictly 4 my nikkaz was certified platinum in April of 1995 as well
December of 1995 me against the world was certified 2x platinum
April of 1996 all eyes on me was certified 5 x's platinum

So according to the stats tupac sold more records then bone thugs during there peak of success

Bone thugs had a good run from 94-97 before they fell off.

 

[MexicanKingpin]

it's crazy how people forget about Bone or don't believe they were so big from 94-2000 really

2000? Gtfo after the art of war album which dropped in 97 they started to decline in sales.
By that time master p and no limit started making noise ,then jay z took over in 98 let's not forget dmx came threw and took shyt over as well , and juvenile all in 98. then Eminem dropped his album in 99 and Dr.dre by that time nobody gave a fukk about no bone thugs

 

[El Bombi]

I still wanna know whos idea it was to change the beat and get rid of the second Bizzy verse.



Bone should've listened to this masterpiece and just decided its to perfect to touch

If I was Bizzy and made this song,and had to hear these nikkas,especially Wish talkin about "Oh shyt,we gotta get on this!",I woulda been mean mugging the shyt outta them nikkas at the time.

Much as I love BOne they should've just made another track,i cant even listen to the Bone version after hearing the OG

Im curious as to what happened when 2pac and Bizzy ran into each other,two crazy hyper azz nikkas,probaly argued about the thug shyt,then forgot after bonding over some weed

Hell No

The Bone version is completely better.

The original is

Glad U-Neek cleaned up the original beat up as well.

 

[28 Gramz]

If nikkas are in here saying Bone was bigger than Pac they might as well apply that to Coolio too.

 

[DaveyDave]

If nikkas are in here saying Bone was bigger than Pac they might as well apply that to Coolio too.

94-95 Bone was bigger than Pac. 96/97 you could say they were on par or Pac was a bit bigger. Cats saying no one gave a shyt after AOW, Resurrection was highly anticipated and I thought it was a step back in the harder direction they strayed from on AOW. That ecstasy song was still fairly big.

 

[the cool]

I still wanna know whos idea it was to change the beat and get rid of the second Bizzy verse.



Bone should've listened to this masterpiece and just decided its to perfect to touch

If I was Bizzy and made this song,and had to hear these nikkas,especially Wish talkin about "Oh shyt,we gotta get on this!",I woulda been mean mugging the shyt outta them nikkas at the time.

Much as I love BOne they should've just made another track,i cant even listen to the Bone version after hearing the OG

Im curious as to what happened when 2pac and Bizzy ran into each other,two crazy hyper azz nikkas,probaly argued about the thug shyt,then forgot after bonding over some weed

god damn this is dope as fukk!!!!!!!

thanks for posting this i never heard of it before