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Nope.
Boosie says Keefe D can say whatever he wants to say bout PAC cuz aint no one ridin for HIM...
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Yeah I know bro ... but after suge got out in 2001 suge didn’t have the stuff you mentioned he was a shell ov himself ... n stil I don’t recall 1 time anyone pressing suge over biggie ... u the homie aswell just we gona Agree to disagree sometimes .....that’s why altho suge n pac moved wrong during that beef I will always give suge/ pirus more respect then biggies crew for at least responding to pac getting killed .. yeah it didn’t work but at least they tryed to get some kind ov street justice .....it is what it is ....
u da homie in all
but comparing these 2 is comparing apples to oranges
yeah nikkaz knew suge was part of biggie demise
BUT u can’t act like nikkaz just let that shyt slide
- suge was locked up in jail with maximum protection
- suge / death row had half of the LAPD on pay roll
- puff, biggie & most of their affiliates was being followed by the FEDS
Am just saying I think the domino effect that pac caused though his actions was huge n had a huge effect on hip hop in general when you look at things in retrospect what happened and what did not happened due to that domino effect ....
I can only think ov 4 reasons pac ran up on baby lane obviously taking away the main 1 that travon got into it with baby lane trying to get his chain months early but ..
1: loyalty to deathrow/suge/pirus
2:showing he really wanted to be down with mob piru
3: the deathrow chain bounty rumour that puffy put out though southside crips
4: simply the fact badboy were using southside crips so there the enimies too in his eyes .....cant think ov any more ... I dno wheather it was 1 reason or a combo ov reasons .....
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saying nothing was done to suge or his crew by bad boy after biggies death is speculation
People in their late 40's and better are usually the ones who carry out contracts in the street, the youngins just aimlessly bug out...the older men are the ones who get it done for real. Them dudes just don't want drama, that's all...if it was some soft dudes disrespecting 2pac they would be all over them dudes!! But since it's Wack100 and guys like this they keep their mouths closed. That aint an age thing, it's a fear thing.
No lol
“Allegedly embraced”
What 2pac did was literally the dumbest shyt ever done by a rapper. He ruined a dynasty by involving his self in something that didnt even matter.
@spliz is right about that part tho.
they were doing business with puff. so yes it was pac's beef.
it became gang business, but its initially pac & suge's beefs.
now with all that said, pac still should've moved smarter than that.
but the narrative that pac randomly wandered into mob piru business, needs to stop.
It wasn’t .... anything that happens to suge and his crew was all in-fighting piru on piru bizz.... everyone knows the story by now George Williams , lil rod recruited other pirus to war with mob piru n we all know the end result ov that ....
But pac should have knew once gangs were involved on both sides that’s when he needed to take a back seat on that shyt ....pac just has a habit of getting himself involved in drama....like I said suge n pac were not a good duo .. pac needed some big brother guildence not someone like suge who I assume loved the fact pac started embracing the mob piru .... I mean suge even got Tupac m.i.p tattooed on his arm next to his other tattoe bountry m.i.p ...
I wouldn't call it fear.
dudes is just at a different point in life. prolly not rolling as deep as they used to, a lot of them have grown ass kids that are now out-n-about in that world, and they have to look out for their best interest instead of 2pac's legacy.
theyre not hitmen. they already got their money.
im not arguing that stuff. that's why I said, pac still should've been more mindful.
and yea, suge is another knucklehead who lived life backwards.
im just saying, people gotta stop acting like 2pac jumped into some backstreet Compton beef.
how do you know what shytty was thinking and how the convo went? you dont shoot a nikka 11 times and kick them you have live for over one insult.
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Pac shouldve def moved smarter but Pac was always how he was. Even before Death Row the nikka was reckless. That shyt changes with growth. Pac was livin in the fast lane forreal tho. Im pretty sure he would’ve slowed down sooner than later if he lived.
I know what your saying .... he did kinda jump into a Compton gang-beef tho I know he had reasons like the ones mentioned ... but once he took that step jumping baby lane it’s the direct definition ov injecting yourself into gang-politics .... even suge said that on that new documentary American knightmare... I mean suge goes so far as to confirm pac was telling suge he was gona have redreg or something dno the direct quote but basically pac was telling suge he going all out for the red-team ....mob James wasn’t really around pac that much so he’s gona have a different and more logical view on pac with the gangshyt ... but all the other mob pirus basically consider pac an honorary member
True ..... suge should have been a better “big bro” aswell n actully guilded pac in a better direction .... that’s why I always say musically pacs move to deathrow was the best for him but off the mic he was getting too involved with all that piru shyt to me personally I know some cats say it was just a loyalty thing but there’s ways ov been loyal to a crew without making yourself a target ....it is what it is ..... it would be very interesting to see how long that beef with badboy would have continued tho had both pac n big survived ..
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Yea. My thing is with Pac. It just seemed like whoever he’s rolling with he gets deep wit it. Like before Death Row he was already rollin wit Crips real heavy. Even Lord Jamar said he saw Pac in a whip full of crips like it wasnt nothin. Noone really started accusing him of bangin until he hit Death Row tho because of how loud Death Row and bloods in general are. I honestly think Pac had abandonment issues which is why he was quick to embrace people and quick to cut em off if he felt they wronged him in any kind of way. Sad to say he was really reckless and ended up learning his lesson the hard way. Smh.True ..... suge should have been a better “big bro” aswell n actully guilded pac in a better direction .... that’s why I always say musically pacs move to deathrow was the best for him but off the mic he was getting too involved with all that piru shyt to me personally I know some cats say it was just a loyalty thing but there’s ways ov been loyal to a crew without making yourself a target ....it is what it is ..... it would be very interesting to see how long that beef with badboy would have continued tho had both pac n big survived ..
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