Boston Marathon Explosions...

[TTT]

Dont know if this has been posted yet, they say these dudes were inspired by an Al Qaeda magazine published in English. This website has some of their coversThe Nine Most Terrifying Covers Of Al-Qaeda's Magazine To Inspire Western Terrorist Attacks

 

[Gang$tarr]

What exactly doesn't add up?

Those pics r bullshyt stretching... Why is a guy running from the crime scene? Maybe cuz a bomb went off? Why are they all standing together, is it a job well done? Maybe cuz a fukkin bomb just went off, people usually talk to others around them in those event like "wtf just happened!!?!" there were ex navy seals there omg, yeah there was 25000 other people there just in the marathon not including lots more spectators, chances are some ex SEALs are gonna be there. you can't even see the guys face on the ground, could be anybody and there are different time zones lol

Mad people in his own family are sayin he was acting more extremist for the last few years, he changed, why the fukk wouldn't I believe his own family over some goofballs reaching for shyt online


I buy into some conspiracy theories and I think critically, somebody tell me what REALLY doesn't add up

 

[88m3]

What exactly doesn't add up?

Those pics r bullshyt stretching... Why is a guy running from the crime scene? Maybe cuz a bomb went off? Why are they all standing together, is it a job well done? Maybe cuz a fukkin bomb just went off, people usually talk to others around them in those event like "wtf just happened!!?!" there were ex navy seals there omg, yeah there was 25000 other people there just in the marathon not including lots more spectators, chances are some ex SEALs are gonna be there. you can't even see the guys face on the ground, could be anybody and there are different time zones lol

Mad people in his own family are sayin he was acting more extremist for the last few years, he changed, why the fukk wouldn't I believe his own family over some goofballs reaching for shyt online


I buy into some conspiracy theories and I think critically, somebody tell me what REALLY doesn't add up

they're literally reaching for the stars on this one breh, it's not you.

 

[You Win Perfect]

When did critical thinking become an exercise in tin foilery....... ... your mind has shown you something doesn't add up ... and it's calculating how and why it wouldnt' make sense.... cotdamn, its ok to think ............................................................. until they make it illegal.....

dapped just for that alone

 

[Olu Dara]

[ame="http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hXg1uwFvfNg"]Journalist to FBI: "Tell Us About the Bomb Drill!" (Boston Marathon Bombing) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

What exactly doesn't add up?

Those pics r bullshyt stretching... Why is a guy running from the crime scene? Maybe cuz a bomb went off? Why are they all standing together, is it a job well done? Maybe cuz a fukkin bomb just went off, people usually talk to others around them in those event like "wtf just happened!!?!" there were ex navy seals there omg, yeah there was 25000 other people there just in the marathon not including lots more spectators, chances are some ex SEALs are gonna be there. you can't even see the guys face on the ground, could be anybody and there are different time zones lol

Mad people in his own family are sayin he was acting more extremist for the last few years, he changed, why the fukk wouldn't I believe his own family over some goofballs reaching for shyt online


I buy into some conspiracy theories and I think critically, somebody tell me what REALLY doesn't add up

I`m the same way, I am into a lot of conspiracy theory stuff and critical thinking about alternative stories, but this just isn't one of them.

This is what turned me off to shyt like InfoWars after a while of reading them, the fact that EVERYTHING that happened was a conspiracy. Nothing in the world ever just happens.

 

[Won Won]

This is what turned me off to shyt like InfoWars after a while of reading them, the fact that EVERYTHING that happened was a conspiracy. Nothing in the world ever just happens.

I went on there yesterday for 2 minutes, just long enough to read that every person that was injured was "costuming" aka faking it, and all the amputees were actors.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

I went on there yesterday for 2 minutes, just long enough to read that every person that was injured was "costuming" aka faking it, and all the amputees were actors.

Yeah man, they go too far.

And I figured out why, conspiracy is business to them. My best friend was telling me how his father is crazy about this stuff now, he's subscribed to their magazine and all. I remember noticing a while back how a bunch of stories he on their headlines were directly related to his sponsors.

I question 9/11 and many things, but to me Alex Jones started off with good intentions and then noticed how rich he could get off this shyt and ran wild with it.

 

[Brown_Pride]

what the shyt happend to this thread lol. I stopped reading it after they caught the brother now i come back and it's full blown tin foil fest in here. sometimes bad people do bad things and they aren't part of some BIG conspiracy.

LOL @ dude running away. It just don't even make sense. He put the bomb down and then detonated so close that it blew his damn pants off? Really? Does that really make sense to some of you?
bomb goes off. You fukin run...well most of us do at least
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d50TSkc7ac"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d50TSkc7ac[/ame]

at 8 year old costuming

 

[Dyce25]

what the shyt happend to this thread lol. I stopped reading it after they caught the brother now i come back and it's full blown tin foil fest in here. sometimes bad people do bad things and they aren't part of some BIG conspiracy.

LOL @ dude running away. It just don't even make sense. He put the bomb down and then detonated so close that it blew his damn pants off? Really? Does that really make sense to some of you?
bomb goes off. You fukin run...well most of us do at least
Cedric The Entertainer - Black People Just RUN - HILARIOUS!! - YouTube

at 8 year old costuming

So, since I'm new around here, maybe you can make this easy for me. I've noticed there are only a handful of truly intelligent people that post in HL, but I haven't taken the time to memorize exactly which people those are; though, it seems to me like you and Victor are in that group at least. Which other posters would you say are truly intelligent and worth engaging with on here?

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

So, since I'm new around here, maybe you can make this easy for me. I've noticed there are only a handful of truly intelligent people that post in HL, but I haven't taken the time to memorize exactly which people those are; though, it seems to me like you and Victor are in that group at least. Which other posters would you say are truly intelligent and worth engaging with on here?

just knock about here a bit and get a feel for the place.
you will eventually carve out a spot for yourself and eventually get :shyt: on by someone who does not agree with you.

then you will :shyt: on them and the cycle of your Higher Learning life will begin.

 

[newworldafro]

Why Such Secrecy about Private Military Contractor

Craft International Services hired guns at the Boston Marathon:

Why Such Secrecy about Private Military Contractor’s Men Working the Event?



Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:09





by:
Dave Lindorff


Speaking as an investigative reporter with almost 40 years’s experience, I can say that when government officials won’t talk, they’re generally hiding something embarrassing or worse.

I tried, and nobody will talk about those Craft International Services private security personnel who were widely observed and photographed near the finish line of the Boston Marathon, wearing security ear-pieces, hats and T-shirts bearing the company’s skull logo, and all wearing the same dark coats, khaki pants and combat boots, some carrying what appear to have been radiation detectors. (I got no hard answers, though there were some inadvertent hints given.)
I first contacted a man identifying himself as Jack Fleming, a public affairs person with the Boston Athletic Assn., sponsor of the marathon. Fleming advised me that “If you want to ask about that you should contact the Commonwealth (of Massachusetts) Executive Office of Public Safety.”

I called that agency and spoke with the public information office there, a man named Terrell. He first said, "Did you call the Marathon organizers?" When I replied that I had, and that they had said to call his office, he replied, "They did?" Then he said, “You should call the City of Boston Police Department. They released a security plan to some media organizations.”

Indeed they had released that plan to the Boston Globe. Based upon the information it got from the police the article the Globe ran, did report that the Police had deployed “air patrols, K9 units, and more than 1,000 uniformed officers and soldiers along the 26-mile course and the finish line,” but it made no mention of the private contracting of soldiers-for-hire, which is what Craft International does (see the Craft website). News agency Reuters reported, meanwhile, that a top official for the Massachusetts state Homeland Security Department, Undersecretary Kurt Schwartz, told a group at Harvard U. that his agency had “planned” for a possible bombing attack on the marathon, even running a “table-top” exercise about such an event a week before the race.

I called the Boston Police to ask if they had hired the Craft International personnel who were observed at the scene just before and after the bombing, and was told by the public affairs office there that “Anything having to do with the investigation of the bombing would have to be referred to the FBI Boston Division office.” When I pointed out that I wasn’t asking anything about the investigation, but was simply asking who had hired the security personnel from Craft International, the answer was simply repeated: “You’ll have to ask the FBI.”

So I called the FBI, and got a public affairs person there named Amanda Cox. Her initial response to my question was, “I do not have any information on that.”

I then said I had been referred to her by the Boston Police Department, and said that photos of the scene after the bombing had shown Craft International personnel conversing with FBI agents. She then put down the phone, and I could hear her turn to a supervisor and ask, her voice muffled, “This guy’s asking about the Craft Security Consultants -- who hired them and what they were doing.”

I next overheard the muffled voice of another woman to whom she had been speaking reply, “I think you could safely say, ‘I do know we worked with a lot of people who worked on security at the marathon...’” After that I couldn’t make out what was being said.

Cox later returned to the phone, and instead told me, “I’d refer you to the company on any information about who hired them.” (Taken together the overheard conversation and the official answer from Cox would at least seem to confirm that Craft's people were hired for the event, and that the FBI knows a lot more than it is willing to say about them.)

Next I called Craft International. The company has no phone number listed on its website -- just a general email address of info@thecraft.com (to which I wrote to asking for information, but which elicited no response)--but I found one listed for their headquarters office at 2101 Cedar Springs Rd., Suite 1400, Dallas, TX, in a listing on the company published in a directory in Bloomberg Businessweek, This entry noted that the company, in addition to “providing security, defense, and combat weapons training services for military, police, corporate and civilian clients in the US and internationally,” also “offers corporate and private and civilian training services...” The number, published in a business magazine, was clearly meant as a contact for potential customers to call.

A woman answered the phone brightly with the company's name. However, when I identified myself as a reporter, and said I was wondering if someone could tell me who had hired personnel from the firm to work at the Boston Marathon, she responded with a flummoxed: “Um, I um, don’t really have any information on that. I’m just an answering service.”

I replied, “Look, the number I called is listed as the number of the company’s corporate headquarters at 2101 Cedar Springs Road. You’re not an answering service.”

At that point she said, “Let me see who I can transfer you to.”

However, after a long pause, she was back, and said, “The answer I’ve been given is that you should go to the website, where there’s an email address you can write to with your question.”

I had already done that, I told her. She then said she couldn’t help me and hung up.

I also called the US Department of Homeland Security, but a women named Angela who answered the press office number for this public government agency (she refused to provide her last name despite being the public information office) said the DHS media office was “only taking inquiries sent in by email.” I sent in an inquiry asking if any unit of the DHS had hired Craft International to provide security at the Boston Marathon, but so far have received no response.

As things stand, since it's highly unlikely that Craft International, a private for-profit enterprise founded by the late ace Navy Seal sniper Chris Kyle, would have "hired" itself to police the Marathon gratis, it seems pretty clear that we had rent-a-special forces-soldier people, hired by some agency, at the scene of the bombing ahead of the bombing.

And we have no reporting on this in the mainstream corporate media.

Why? I have no answer to that.

I did write to Andrea Estes, the lead writer of the Globe’s piece on police security planning mentioned above, who is described in her bio on the Globe’s website staff page as an “investigative reporter specializing in government accountability.”

I called and left a message on her phone, and sent her an email, asking if she had looked into the Craft Security personnel, to see who hired them, what they were doing at the race finish line, and why they appeared be carrying radiation detectors. She has so far not responded to my request for information and assistance concerning anything she had done or learned about this, or whether she had looked into it at all.

Certainly there is a big accountability question. A bunch of them actually. Here are a few:

* If Craft International people were hired, who hired them and why?

* If it was the Boston Police or the FBI that hired them, why won’t they just say so? Simply hiring outside security help should not be a secret, and could in no way affect the investigation into the bombing and the captured suspect, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, so why the secrecy about that? Given all the police presence, and the size of the FBI's Boston division, why did they need those extra guys from a private rent-a-soldier firm?

* If it was not the Boston Police or the FBI, what agency did hire the company, and why?

* If it was the state’s Homeland Security Dept. or or the state Executive Office of Public Safety, or perhaps more likely, the US Department of Homeland Security, did they notify the FBI that they had done so, and tell the agency what had prompted them to do this? 


* The big overarching question when it comes to who hired Craft International is, what possible gain in security could have been achieved by adding what appears to be seven guys (or perhaps a few more who didn’t appear in photos) from a private security firm when the Boston Police had in place over 1000 armed security people from their office and the National Guard, and when, as became evident immediately after the bombs went off, a large number of FBI personnel were also on hand?

Unless, of course, the Craft Security people were aware of something that we, the public, including the race participants and spectators, and perhaps even the police and FBI, were not aware of.

Transparency is critical to accountability. At this point, it is clear that we have had a massive failure of the national security state. Despite the fact that the FBI was aware of concerns about Tarmelan Tsarnaev, and the fact that the CIA had him on a watch list, he appears to have been able to work on line to learn how to build a powerful homemade bomb, to obtain the materials, including a substantial quantity of black powder, to build a number of them, and, allegedly with the help of his younger brother Dzhokhar, to place them near the finish line and detonate two of them, killing three people and injuring as many as 200. That’s a huge intelligence fail.

It would be an even bigger fail if it turns out that some agency had awareness of a credible threat and that it hired Craft International personnel to prevent it. We clearly need to know, and have a right to demand to know, who hired those men and why. After all, at a minimum, on the face of things, they did an abysmal job of preventing a bombing right in front of their supposedly well-trained noses.

And of course, as I wrote earlier, there is also another question, which is really disturbing: The image of the exploded backpack released by the FBI and identified as the remains of the pack that was carrying one of the two pressure-cooker bombs, prominently displays a white square on a black background. This is not a doctored photograph; it’s the photograph that was released by the FBI. There are also at least two photos depicting one of the Craft International men who is wearing a black backpack identical to several of the other Craft International personnel. The same white square is also visible on the top of his pack.

There does not appear to be any such white marking -- square or otherwise -- on the top of the black backpack worn by Tarmelan Tsarnaev, as observed in several security photos taken of him (Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was shown carrying a smaller white or light-colored pack, slung over one shoulder). Check out the images below of Tarmelan, the exploded bag and the Craft International character:

I am not drawing any conclusions from any of this, but I will say that when government agencies at all levels and a private contracting firm are all this obtuse and secretive (and in some cases even deceptive) about what should be a simple question -- who hired these men? -- my suspicions are aroused.

Somebody’s clearly hiding something.

And by the way, why aren't the mainstream media asking about this? Are corporate media journalists so intimidated about being labeled “conspiracy nuts” that they can't do their jobs? At a minimum, this goes to the question of accountability. It also goes to the question of inter-agency communication or lack of it. And given what we know about how many times the FBI has been an active encourager and enabler of terror plots which it later thwarts and claims credit for preventing, there’s the question, too of potential official culpability. Furthermore, when an horrific incident like this is used to justify such new threats to our Constitutional freedom as an unprecedented martial law-style lockdown of an entire 1-million-person metropolitan area and a precedent-setting deliberately Miranda-free, attorney-free interrogation of a hospitalized, gravely wounded and sedated suspect, it is critical that the whole story be told, not just the official one.

 

[newworldafro]

The same guy originally identified by .... as the suspect, is believed to be guy that has been missing for several weeks................found in river in Rhode Island.........

Providence police say body found in river could be missing former Brown student Sunil Tripathi - Boston.com

 

[88m3]

The same guy originally identified by .... as the suspect, is believed to be guy that has been missing for several weeks................found in river in Rhode Island.........

Providence police say body found in river could be missing former Brown student Sunil Tripathi - Boston.com

Are you happy?

See what you made him do.

 

[RAX 010]

The same guy originally identified by .... as the suspect, is believed to be guy that has been missing for several weeks................found in river in Rhode Island.........

Providence police say body found in river could be missing former Brown student Sunil Tripathi - Boston.com

This one had reddit going bananas this week