#bothsiders come on in....

[Everythingg]

uh.,... bothsiders use the flaws in both parties to specifically support right wing politics

That’s purposeful and disingenuous cap

The real bothsides argument is that the left and right play dog and pony shows for the public but answer to the same people behind the scenes. Trying to figure out “the lesser of two evils” between them is like figuring out the “lesser of the evils” when it comes to a murderer and r*pist. A complete waste of time. They’re both trash and the undeniable example of that is that they both support the Federal Reserve system that prints money (that’s backed by nothing) will (I.e. whenever they want)and loans the money at interest to the country. This is a private bank that the people have no say over, no control over, and no ability to audit.

You purposely misrepresent the #bothsides argument because like the idiots that most people are, you tie the public’s progression to the political system when ultimately #bothsides support a system that is leading to greater and greater income inequalities. When they fail, they get a bailout. When Covid came and they forced small businesses to close/limit their customers they started arguing about how much of OUR money they would give out. And fast forward and they’re giving billions of dollars to Ukraine in aid. And it’s to the point that even cacs are onto the #bothsides point of view. Catch up or get left

 

[Savvir]

Trying to figure out “the lesser of two evils” between them is like figuring out the “lesser of the evils” when it comes to a murderer and r*pist. A complete waste of time.

Here they come…

I think breaking apart each point in a numbered list is an inelegant way to post on a forum, so I'll just say this.

Breaking apart arguments into multiple points that can be addressed in easy to identify parts is inelegant. Hah.

 

[BobbyWojak]

Breaking apart arguments into multiple points that can be addressed in easy to identify parts is inelegant. Hah.

yeah... the long list of quotes is annoying

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

That’s purposeful and disingenuous cap

The real bothsides argument is that the left and right play dog and pony shows for the public but answer to the same people behind the scenes. Trying to figure out “the lesser of two evils” between them is like figuring out the “lesser of the evils” when it comes to a murderer and r*pist. A complete waste of time. They’re both trash and the undeniable example of that is that they both support the Federal Reserve system that prints money (that’s backed by nothing) will (I.e. whenever they want)and loans the money at interest to the country. This is a private bank that the people have no say over, no control over, and no ability to audit.

You purposely misrepresent the #bothsides argument because like the idiots that most people are, you tie the public’s progression to the political system when ultimately #bothsides support a system that is leading to greater and greater income inequalities. When they fail, they get a bailout. When Covid came and they forced small businesses to close/limit their customers they started arguing about how much of OUR money they would give out. And fast forward and they’re giving billions of dollars to Ukraine in aid. And it’s to the point that even cacs are onto the #bothsides point of view. Catch up or get left

nikka, you are using generational, non-partisan crisis' in this country--Covid, war in Ukraine, recessions and bailouts--as some examples of both sides being the same. Moments where any government would have to settle party differences, come together, and take immediate action to protect its people or its foreign policy interests. These are not exactly partisan issues.

How about we talk anout everyday issues like healthcare? our prison system? Law enforcement? Racism and discrimination? Our tax codes? Government spending? Yalls favorite subject "iMmIgRaztiOn!" "ILegAls!"? Student loan debt? Affirmative action? Womens reproductive rights? Climate Change?

I'm starting to realize every fool that skipped civics class grew up to become insufferable #bothsides Trump supporters.

 

[Everythingg]

Here they come…

Like I said purposeful and disingenuous cap. Your job is to shill for democrats even though they, like republicans, support a system that disenfranchises all Americans. While idiots like yourself are on the bottom going back and forth between republican or democrat arguments the real shakers are running away with the countries. Last I saw the top 10% owned 90% of everything. And while they keep upping that they’ll push thru their media (that the majority of is owned by a handful of companies) things that divide the public like race, political status or religion.

You ignore it all to push your “secret shill for republicans” argument because that’s all your mind can handle. It has to be “this” or “that”. “Black” or “white”. You’re either simple minded or one of “them”

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

Like I said purposeful and disingenuous cap. Your job is to shill for democrats even though they, like republicans, support a system that disenfranchises all Americans. While idiots like yourself are on the bottom going back and forth between republican or democrat arguments the real shakers are running away with the countries. Last I saw the top 10% owned 90% of everything. And while they keep upping that they’ll push thru their media (that the majority of is owned by a handful of companies) things that divide the public like race, political status or religion.

You ignore it all to push your “secret shill for republicans” argument because that’s all your mind can handle. It has to be “this” or “that”. “Black” or “white”. You’re either simple minded or one of “them”

The top 10% will be happy to have our asses out the way so that they can elect our politicians, write our laws, and decide what's what.

They are absolutely rooting for yalls both sides don't vote agenda.

I will never understand how so many of you are convinced that doing nothing, not voting, and allowing other people to pick our government is somehow a courageous and militant act. In all yalls attempts to be more intellectual than you actually are the best yall can come up with is to hand over power to others and then I guess sit around, watch,and take what we get.

 

[Everythingg]

nikka, you are using generational, non-partisan crisis' in this country--Covid, war in Ukraine, recessions and bailouts--as some examples of both sides being the same. Moments where any government would have to settle party differences, come together, and take immediate action to protect its people or its foreign policy interests. These are not exactly partisan issues.

How about we talk anout everyday issues like healthcare? our prison system? Law enforcement? Racism and discrimination? Our tax codes? Government spending? Yalls favorite subject "iMmIgRaztiOn!" "ILegAls!"? Student loan debt? Affirmative action? Womens reproductive rights? Climate Change?

I'm starting to realize every fool that skipped civics class grew up to become insufferable #bothsides Trump supporters.

Ok start with the prison system. Ehich political party has taken a CONCRETE stance on the fact that there are prisons that operate for profit? And that make contracts with states that DEMAND minimum occupancy? You do know slavery is legal when it comes to prisons right? So these prisons are allowed to make products that get sold to the public while the laborers are paid pennies an hour. Who do you think that’s enriching?

Or how about the system in general which is in the hands of a private entity that the public has no control over. The same private entity that can print money backed by nothing (well YOU, the public and the labor you provide are what backs it) whenever they want. Which political party takes a CONCRETE stance against that? Do you think the public would be down with a private entity ran by billionaires(+) control the economy they actually build and support while they have no input in decisions they make? Do you think the average American would even trust them if they knew about them? And most importantly, which political party takes the concrete stance against giving that type of power to a private entity no one has any say over?

It’s one thing to read these type of arguments and say “I still think we should vote and not ignore who is holding official positions in govt”. It’s another to read all this and declare one as a “secret republican agent”. Anybody that makes that argument is either a dumbass or an agent for democrats.All the political system is is two wings on the same bird arguing about different ways to approach the same goal. The goal? Disenfranchise you(I.e. the public). Most of y’all will never get it because most of y’all are NPCs. Don’t let that go over your head tho

 

[LeVraiPapi]

That’s purposeful and disingenuous cap

The real bothsides argument is that the left and right play dog and pony shows for the public but answer to the same people behind the scenes. Trying to figure out “the lesser of two evils” between them is like figuring out the “lesser of the evils” when it comes to a murderer and r*pist. A complete waste of time. They’re both trash and the undeniable example of that is that they both support the Federal Reserve system that prints money (that’s backed by nothing) will (I.e. whenever they want)and loans the money at interest to the country. This is a private bank that the people have no say over, no control over, and no ability to audit.

You purposely misrepresent the #bothsides argument because like the idiots that most people are, you tie the public’s progression to the political system when ultimately #bothsides support a system that is leading to greater and greater income inequalities. When they fail, they get a bailout. When Covid came and they forced small businesses to close/limit their customers they started arguing about how much of OUR money they would give out. And fast forward and they’re giving billions of dollars to Ukraine in aid. And it’s to the point that even cacs are onto the #bothsides point of view. Catch up or get left

lol. You’re a known right wing Yrump supporter. You have made it apparent e several times

 

[LeVraiPapi]

That’s purposeful and disingenuous cap

The real bothsides argument is that the left and right play dog and pony shows for the public but answer to the same people behind the scenes. Trying to figure out “the lesser of two evils” between them is like figuring out the “lesser of the evils” when it comes to a murderer and r*pist. A complete waste of time. They’re both trash and the undeniable example of that is that they both support the Federal Reserve system that prints money (that’s backed by nothing) will (I.e. whenever they want)and loans the money at interest to the country. This is a private bank that the people have no say over, no control over, and no ability to audit.

You purposely misrepresent the #bothsides argument because like the idiots that most people are, you tie the public’s progression to the political system when ultimately #bothsides support a system that is leading to greater and greater income inequalities. When they fail, they get a bailout. When Covid came and they forced small businesses to close/limit their customers they started arguing about how much of OUR money they would give out. And fast forward and they’re giving billions of dollars to Ukraine in aid. And it’s to the point that even cacs are onto the #bothsides point of view. Catch up or get left

This does not even deserve an answer. This is brainless babble.

 

[omnifax]

The way the both sides argument is employed by some posters on this forum is disingenuous but it does have merit in that it should inspire you to be critical of both parties and find ways to hold them accountable when they aren't working in the peoples' interest. I will say that posters on this forum also overuse their critique of both siders to cover Dems neglect of the working class and poor overall. In my view if a person has never voted republican and only democrat it is one of the most definitive ways they can critique the republican party.

You have a great example right now of Arab Americans using their primary votes to say they are unhappy with the party or more specifically Joe Biden on Israel/Palestine and almost no one is calling them right wing or trying to sabotage the party. If you are unhappy with the party you believe is most in line with your values/politics you have to be able to critique them when they get out of line and willing to express it. That is an important part of Democracy.

 

[Everythingg]

The top 10% will be happy to have our asses out the way so that they can elect our politicians, write our laws, and decide what's what.

They are absolutely rooting for yalls both sides don't vote agenda.

I will never understand how so many of you are convinced that doing nothing, not voting, and allowing other people to pick our government is somehow a courageous and militant act. In all yalls attempts to be more intellectual than you actually are the best yall can come up with is to hand over power to others and then I guess sit around, watch,and take what we get.

Let’s see how many times I have to repeat it before one of you actually respond. There is a private entity that controls the money supply of America. Meaning whenever they want to they can print money. And this money they print is backed by NOTHING other than the public and the labor the public provides. You cannot vote someone into this entity. You cannot vote someone out of this entity. You cannot audit this entity to actually see what they’re doing either. What the hell is your vote going to do when it comes to them? Looking at how wealth inequality keeps increasing, do you think this entity is for or against the public? When you look at 2008 and how “they” failed and got billions of dollars in bailouts and fast forward 10/11 years when they were telling small businesses to not operate or cut the customers they could serve half and started arguing about giving the public money, again, do you think this entity is for or against the general public?

I’ve never told someone not to vote. But I have said that their vote doesn’t really matter. Both parties work in the interest of this entity because that’s who has the power. They control the economy that makes the country go. While you and bottom feeders like you are arguing about things like politics, sports, race, religion etc… they’re running up the bag more and more. They’re unnecessarily making life harder and harder for everyone on the bottom while everyone on the bottom is too busy fighting each other over meaningless differences And I used to say “man thats fukked up” but now I say they should. If you’re too stupid (and proud of it)to actually look at what’s going on around you, then I’d say to them double it up on the dumbasses. Same way I used to think Apple was on that bullshyt of putting a new, minimally tweaked iPhone out every year while increasing the price (while cost of building said phone remains about the same) until year after year I saw people buying whatever they served. After a while it’s like yea get them suckers because they’ll never get it until the rug is pulled out from under them. Most people move like NPCs do in video games.

And by “dumbasses” and “suckers” I mean the ones that pridefully beat their chests in their ignorance. I don’t mean the young or humble adults that simply don’t know what’s going on because what’s actually going on is never shown to them.

 

[Everythingg]

lol. You’re a known right wing Yrump supporter. You have made it apparent e several times

This is exactly what I mean. A person like this is either an “agent” for “them” or a dumbass agent for the democrats (which ultimately is an agent for “them”)

I say “hey there’s a private entity that controls the whole country’s economy. The fact that this entity exists yet NEITHER party speaks on the ultimate power this entity has over everyone is why I believe #bothsides are terrible for the public” and all this simpleton agent can retort with us “you’re a republican”. These are the type of people they should double and triple it up on. No humility. Just straight prideful of your ignorance

 

[Everythingg]

The top 10% will be happy to have our asses out the way so that they can elect our politicians, write our laws, and decide what's what.

During the pandemic you allowed your govt to tell you when to go outside and when to come inside all for your “safety”.You allowed them to ENFORCE wearing something, all for your “safety”. You allowed them to tell how many people you could have “visit” your home all for your “safety”. You allowed them to push a vaccine on you they created for a virus that just sprang up “out of nowhere”(tho they were talking about an upcoming pandemic before it happened to “spring up on us”). Again, all for your “safety”.

They already got you when you allowed that. And when people protested that, because theoretically giving your govt that type of power is dangerous? You clowned them and started name calling. Y’all mocked people protesting giving the govt that much power when they were ones that actually understood the danger of giving your govt that type of say so in your everyday life. Emphasis on “they” because I didon’t protest). Now “safety” or “security” will be the excuse they usr when they want to encroach even further into the public’s lives. Which brings to mind this quote:

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”

They finessed y’all dumbass NPCs a lol. And again I mean the ones that are prideful in their ignorance. There are those that are also ignorant but also humble and just trying to get by supporting themselves and their families. That’s not who I laugh at

 

[Savvir]

During the pandemic you allowed your govt to tell you when to go outside and when to come inside all for your “safety”.You allowed them to ENFORCE wearing something, all for your “safety”. Y’all allowed them to tell how many people you could have “visit” your home all for your “safety”. A lot of y’all allowed them to push a vaccine they just “created out of nowhere” (tho they were talking about an upcoming pandemic before it happened to “spring up on us”). Again, all for your “safety”.

They already got you when you allowed that. And when people protested that, because theoretically giving your govt that type of power is dangerous, y’all clowned them and called them names. Y’all mocked them but they understood the danger of giving your govt that type of say so in your everyday life. Now “safety” or “security” will be the reason used when they want to encroach even further. Which brings to mind this quote:

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”

They finessed y’all dumbass NPCs a lol. And again I mean the ones that are prideful in their ignorance. There are those that are also ignorant but also humble and just trying to get by supporting themselves and their families. That’s not who I laugh at

npc’s

Shill

lol…

You use these words in real life?

 

[BruhManFromTheFifthFlo]

You have never once in your life seen any of the "both siders" jump into a politics to defend Democrats, or Joe Biden, and divert attention to the threat of Republicans.

You only see both sides show up to interfere with any productive criticism of Republicans and direct that anger back to Democrats, no matter how much they have to twist themselves into a pretzel to do so.

These idiots will repeat how "Republicans dont promise us nothing tho" when you point out their obvious partisan bias what the party is doing. As if us not voting for them makes them above criticism or concern or impact on our rights.

You have never seen a both sides mocking anyone for voting Republican. In fact they celebrate with gidy excitement the prospect of black people "leaving the Democrat party" and Republicans winning future elections as a result. Just the giddiest excitement from people who somehow hate both sides.

I have never seen a bothsider who is not deeply invested in engineering public opinions against Joe Biden and Democrats solely.

I have never ever seen a both sider who is actually neutral in his political opinion. In fact if you believe both sides are the same why even participate or be worried about something that makes no difference? It's like someone who comes over to your crib to watch smackdown every week just to bytch about the sport and remind you that wrestling is all fake,l and phony, but still wanna come over, watch, and have a heated annoying debate with you over which wrestler is the best.

Now imagine how pompous and foolish this person would look if he runs around imposing his opinion on which wrestlers suck on others whole ranting about how wrestling is all fake and phony at the same time.

And you sure as fukk have never seen a white man or woman, certainly not a Republican, being lectured by a black militant or anyone about both sides being the same. These people only want to influence and convert black people who vote Democrat. They are not at all interested in spreading their message to other voters.

These partisan hacks know what's at stake with elections, they know exactly what they're advocating for, and they just pretend not to so they can push their "fukk the Democrats" right wing propaganda. It aint hard to tell.

Like I said, if I felt both sides were the same and politics was meaningless I wouldn't participate in political debates or worry about who anyone is voting for or who is gonna win. But bothsiders are DEEPLY invested in knowing who's voting for Biden and trying to mock, shame, and "both sides" them away from doing so.

The shyt is indeed right wing propaganda that is only targeted at liberal voters with the sole intention of engineering election outcomes for Republicans. Being a both sider ain't as intellectual as yall would like to believe. Again shut up and stop worrying about "Republicans" or "Democrats" or what they're doing or what theyre not doing, or who's voting for who, or how much the President sucks, if politics is all meaningless to you. Let people who want to vote and participate do so. It doesn't effect you.