#bothsides Lincoln should have negotiated to avoid the Civil War -Donald J. Trump

[Will Ross]

What does this have to do with both sides?

 

[Samori Toure]

You can say that with hindsight now, but the historical record proves you wrong. Did you even read that article I posted which had first/second source citations?

Lincoln was willing to make significant compromises on slavery to preserve the Union. Moreover, Lincoln wasn't a 'radical Republican' like Thaddeus Stevens.

There were multiple matters leading up to the Civil War. It wasn't just one thing. So there was not going to be any negotiating. The decision had already been made. Lincoln's election was just the final straw.

Think about the timeline. Lincoln was elected in November 1860. South Carolina seceded from the Union in December 1860. Lincoln wan not even inaugurated until March 1861. Shots were fired on Fort Sumter in April of 1861. So when exactly was he supposed to be negotiating? He was not even the President in office when South Carolina line stepped. So when was he supposed to be negotiating?

The seeds of the Civil War were already planted, by stuff like the Elijah Lovejoy assassination; the Kansa Missouri border dispute; the Mexican American War; the John Brown crusade, Plessis v. Ferguson; westward slavery expansion being blocked; on and on and on. There was not going to be any negotiating.

 

[Worthless Loser]

Trump is an extremely ignorant man. I would love to hear him break down the Louisiana Purchase or the Mexican American War.

Mexican American War is easy.

"We had to invade Mexico to kill the cartels and smugglers bringing over fentanyl to the US, but then we figured out we could steal some territory while we're here. So we did and the Mexicans have been mad at us every since. When Mexicans come across our borders and poison the blood of our country, it's not because they are trying to escape a bad situation at home. It's because they want to reclaim the territory they lost 200 years ago. Sick people. MS-13, Mexican Mafia, really bad amigos."

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

There were multiple matters leading up to the Civil War. It wasn't just one thing. So there was not going to be any negotiating. The decision had already been made. Lincoln's election was just the final straw. Lincoln was elected in November 1860. South Carolina seceded from the Union in December 1860. Lincoln wan not even inaugurated until March 1861. Shots were fired on Fort Sumter in April of 1861.

So when exactly was he supposed to be negotiating? He was not even in office when South Carolina line stepped. So when was he supposed to be negotiating?

The seeds of the Civil War were already planted, by stuff like the Elijah Lovejoy assassination; the Kansa Missouri border dispute; the Mexican American War; the John Brown crusade, Plessis v. Ferguson; westward slavery expansion being blocked; on and on and on. There was not going to be any negotiating.

I mean, you've typed up a lot but Lincoln and other members of his administration thought negotiation was worth a shot. So, perhaps you should peruse the historical record to glean why the Lincoln Administration negotiated with the Confederacy in 1864?

 

[Samori Toure]

Lincoln himself said that if he could have ended the war without freeing ONE slave he would have. The man was NO abolitionist


Trump is just an idiot who refuses to learn basic history

Lincoln's statement showed that he had no ability to negotiate. There was literally nothing to negotiate, because the South was not willing to do it.

 

[Samori Toure]

I mean, you've typed up a lot but Lincoln and other members of his administration thought negotiation was worth a shot. So, perhaps you should peruse the historical record to glean why the Lincoln Administration negotiated with the Confederacy in 1864?

South Carolina seceded from the Union before Lincoln was even inaugurated. There was nothing to negotiate.

 

[Samori Toure]

Mexican American War is easy.

"We had to invade Mexico to kill the cartels and smugglers bringing over fentanyl to the US, but then we figured out we could steal some territory while we're here. So we did and the Mexicans have been mad at us every since. When Mexicans come across our borders and poison the blood of our country, it's not because they are trying to escape a bad situation at home. It's because they want to reclaim the territory they lost 200 years ago. Sick people. MS-13, Mexican Mafia, really bad amigos."

Don't forget the part about building that wall to stop the bad hombres from coming here.

 

[Slim]

Heard what he said about magnets?



Truly retarded.
This mentally disturbed know-it-all has never ever said anything factual, yet white America hangs onto his every word.

And they yell about “sleepy” “dementia” Joe. All the while Trump brain been mush.

 

[Gloxina]

We'd be wise to read between the lines here. Delusion is the surface issue. This is s dog whistle and call to arms

I don’t understand how “his African Americans” can’t pick up on this shyt


Like, what exactly would they be negotiating? What would Lincoln have to concede to avoid the war?!

 

[Gloxina]

Nah.
He wasn't playing dumb here, he was being dead serious

Injecting disinfectant to clean inside the body.



Ay yo.





America will never live this down.

 

[UWasntThere]

He was a shytty negotiator. The south continued to use slave labor for years afterwards. He should have crushed them into submission

 

[3rdWorld]

Injecting disinfectant to clean inside the body.



Ay yo.





America will never live this down.

Theyre trying to.
His scandals, speech gaffes and off behavior hardly ever makes the rounds on the news

 

[boogers]

jesus what a fukkin retard

how can people support this shyt

@Neo The Resurrected ONE its still on sight

 

[Elim Garak]

He was a shytty negotiator. The south continued to use slave labor for years afterwards. He should have crushed them into submission

He was dead.

 

[TaxCollector13459]

There were multiple matters leading up to the Civil War. It wasn't just one thing. So there was not going to be any negotiating. The decision had already been made. Lincoln's election was just the final straw.

Think about the timeline. Lincoln was elected in November 1860. South Carolina seceded from the Union in December 1860. Lincoln wan not even inaugurated until March 1861. Shots were fired on Fort Sumter in April of 1861. So when exactly was he supposed to be negotiating? He was not even the President in office when South Carolina line stepped. So when was he supposed to be negotiating?

The seeds of the Civil War were already planted, by stuff like the Elijah Lovejoy assassination; the Kansa Missouri border dispute; the Mexican American War; the John Brown crusade, Plessis v. Ferguson; westward slavery expansion being blocked; on and on and on. There was not going to be any negotiating.

yea, IIRC the John Brown is what really set the shii over the edge
IIRC
James Buchanan couldn't wait for Lincoln too take over, and he kinda kicked the can down the road to him
( I think he name dropped the John Brown incident specfically in his address to Congress