"Boxing's Most Knowledgeable People" Believe Mayweather Would Easily Beat Pac
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The Fukin Prophecy
RIP Champ
You're dead wrong about that...
This fight will still smash PPV and gate records if it happens within the next two years...
not if manny loses another fight
in 2 years? they'll both be approaching 38 years old
if it doesnt happen now it wont ever happen
The Fukin Prophecy
RIP Champ
Pac was always light work for Floyd....There was a time when PAC had a chance. A damn good chance. And there's a reason Floyd sr. flinched at the idea of jr. fighting him right after the margarito fight.
That said... PAC ain't been the same SINCE the margarito fight. He dominated. But he took a beating in that fight, and he's been slowing down ever since. Not as drastically as Vargas after Tito low blowed him to Bolivia... but manny left something in the ring that night. And when that happens, you don't get it back.
He's also gotten more and more proficient technically, diminishing the one real trump card he had against Floyd: the complete and utter chaos he would create from throwing punches like a meth addict riding an unbroken bronco.
Floyd would destroy manny now. Light work.
But once upon a time... Manny had the skillset, the speed, the power, and enough "Wtf is this dude doing" in him to make it verrrrry interesting.
If that Manny caught Floyd like Zab or Shane did?
How many times do you have to watch JMM neutralize Pac's strength and punch output to understand his skillset ain't enough to outbox a counter-puncher?
Had this fight happened 5 years ago when Pac was ducking steroid tests Floyd still would of whooped his ass...Physically, technically and mentally Pac was always at a huge disadvantage against Floyd....Speed and a big left hand isn't going to dethrone one of the best pure boxers to ever grace the squared circle...That good chance Manny once had was the same chance Alvarez had...a punchers chance and he's still got that...
TheProfessor
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I've never used compubox to discuss Floyd.
ltheghost
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Pac-man wouldn't last 12 rounds with Mayweather. Pac-Man's style would get him knocked the fukk out AGAIN. You do realize that JMM knocked Pac-Man with a counter! 
Now imagine him running in Floyd..who is 10 times faster than JMM......It wouldn't even be a fight. I think Mayweather would go defensive in the fourth round and probably throw in the towel around the eighth if he isn't knocked out yet.
Now imagine him running in Floyd..who is 10 times faster than JMM......It wouldn't even be a fight. I think Mayweather would go defensive in the fourth round and probably throw in the towel around the eighth if he isn't knocked out yet.
O.T.I.S.
Veteran
What Marquez did to Pac would've happened like 6 times if they fought, he just wouldn't have KO'd him... Possibly. He just would have countered him for 12 rounds, Manny would be confused by the 3rd, would've tried to flurry a comeback around the 8th, but ultimately would've gotten outclassed.
I mean, Manny only really has speed. His power is suspect since he was ducking a drug test, but there's no denying his speed. But Floyd has speed and more importantly Timing. He knows what to throw, when to throw it, and how to make you miss after. Pac is giving up a couple inches in height, but that's nothing compared to what he's giving up in arm length. That right hand lead is going to be there all night for Mayweather. Manny is going to try his bullshyt flurry but Floyd is gonna be gone by the time he throws the first punch.
I mean, Manny only really has speed. His power is suspect since he was ducking a drug test, but there's no denying his speed. But Floyd has speed and more importantly Timing. He knows what to throw, when to throw it, and how to make you miss after. Pac is giving up a couple inches in height, but that's nothing compared to what he's giving up in arm length. That right hand lead is going to be there all night for Mayweather. Manny is going to try his bullshyt flurry but Floyd is gonna be gone by the time he throws the first punch.
the version of manny right before the margarito fight had a great chance. sorry.
floyd will always be the favorite, and deservedly so. but that version of manny was walking through fighters who were much bigger and stronger than floyd. on the surface that doesnt mean much, because FLOYD IS A MUCH BETTER BOXER. but hold on...
yes. floyd's gameplan would basically be to duplicate morales and marquez. to much greater effect. but here's the thing. floyd's greatest in-ring asset is his ability to adapt. he figures out your plan and takes it away from you. but it also creates a window, however small, to attack him. that's ESPECIALLY true against fighters with similar or better hand/foot speed. zab was beating him to the punch EASY over the first 4 rounds of their fight. shane damn near knocked him out because floyd wasnt ready for that combination of speed and power early.
manny would have had a 3-4 round window where his handspeed, aggression and unorthodox style gave him a shot at getting floyd out of there. the same way he almost took marquez out in their first two fights before marquez got his timing (same way floyd would).
after that? fight's over.
but to assume he had no chance of even connecting on floyd early is moronic.
and lol at comparing prime manny to alvarez. alvarez isnt in floyd OR manny's class as a fighter; he never had a chance. anyone who thought otherwise should be forced to hold someone's hand before crossing the street.
respect. that's why i always say pre-margarito manny, when the power was still there.
Who the fukk upped this shyt
O.T.I.S.
Veteran
Marquez isn't as good as a counter puncher as Floyd though. Marquez is one of the best, but Floyd is the best. He's the least touched fighter of all active fighters currently (and I think in history) and only Andre Ward is close I believe
So if Pac had trouble against Marquez... The amount of trouble he would have against Floyd would be double. On top of the fact that Floyd is bigger, quicker, and LONGER than Marquez.
I agree that Manny has about a 3 round window for Floyd to adapt to his style and speed. After that Pac would be eating lead rights the rest of the night
no argument here.
but the same way manny has never faced anyone remotely in floyd's class as a counter-puncher, i think it's fair to say floyd has never faced anyone remotely in manny's class when it comes to hand speed and punch output. and also, as many problems as manny had with marquez, he still got through and connected. i just cant imagine floyd completely negating his offense early. eventually, yes. but i think manny would have got to him in spots over the first three rounds.
those spots determine the fight, imo.