i've yet to hear one legitimate argument from a Seyton stan on why he's better than Brady historically...
all i keep reading are attempts to discredit Brady saying he isn't better for x,y,z reason, that then gets refuted by a knowledgeable poster a couple posts later
name an all time great QB that isnt a system QB.
Staubach who spent his entire career in Landry's offense?Staubach, Favre(yeah I said it), Marino....
But you do have a point with most HOF QBs being somewhat system QBs
Staubach who spent his entire career in Landry's offense?
Favre who looked like crap for the Jets when they werent running a WCO?
The only one I will give you is Marino.

Oh now lets consider all the other factors. :belli:
Playoff records count. Super Bowl wins Count. This is the QB position. You get unfair criticism and you get unfair praise. When you have two QBs as comparable in stats as these two, then you have to factor in how they perform when it counts.
It's not like we are comparing Terry Bradshaw to Manning here. We are talking about two elite QBs with comparable QB stats.

No arguments here... manning even has had some of the best defenses and still choke. Even last years playoff loss brady damn sure didn't choke his defense did.
what year did manning have a great defense?no superbowl wins since spygate
no superbowl wins since spygate
No but he'd still be better than Peyton![]()
no superbowl wins since spygate
and he didnt look trash against the ravens