BREAKING: Brock Purdy wants to be paid at the top of the QB market

Would you give him a long term $55M/per deal?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 15.3%
  • No

    Votes: 72 84.7%

  • Total voters
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This is nasty, especially when those other QBs didn't have a bunch of All-Pro teammates on offense

This isn’t true at all. Why does Purdy all of a sudden have “a bunch of all pro teammates” when we list how successful he is or has been

But the moment we then compare some of those All Pro teammates to the other QB teammates all of a sudden they trash or not as good?

Like prime example and just gonna name 1 of the other QBs on that list. Stafford, he had fukking Megatron. Which All Pro teammate would you trade fukking prime Megatron for?

Even now, most of y’all still wouldnt trade yall top WR for on of Purdy’s top 1 or 2, so what are we talking about? Lol
 

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Ain’t most of the niners on the way out of the team, really he the only dude u can pay

I mean if they gave Daniel jones 40 ms a year, u can’t even be mad at Brock asking for the max
You absolutely can. The way I look at it is that if you pay Purdy the max you need him playing at elite top 5 level or else you're putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage against those QBs that are elite. If the 49ers believe he's truly elite sure pay him. But if he's bottom end of the top 10 or top 15 now you're climbing uphill competing against teams with the elite QBs by giving the QB such a huge chunk of the cap space without the same level of production. As that contract kicks in he'll have to be able to carry a team with much lesser weapons on offense or a weak D.
 

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Pay the man.

Im not going to sit here and pretend we werent a few bad defensive quarters away from being a 11-13 win team even with injuries.

I will say this. His mental/confidence is what worries me after this past game.

You can tell Purdy read the press clippings and listens to people. He forced the ball so much this season and that's something he needs to rehabbed out of.
 

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You can tell Purdy read the press clippings and listens to people. He forced the ball so much this season and that's something he needs to rehabbed out of.
Forcing the rock to Deebo on thursday probably legit cost us our playoff hopes. Shame on Brock and Kyle for trying to reward Deebo for his crying

 

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Cowherd elaborated that he simply believes San Francisco is getting cold feet about paying Purdy after finally seeing how he has played without elite talent and the circumstances around him. And because of the convenient timing of the report immediately after the team’s TNF loss to the Rams, Cowherd sees a negotiating ploy in plain sight.
 

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You absolutely can. The way I look at it is that if you pay Purdy the max you need him playing at elite top 5 level or else you're putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage against those QBs that are elite. If the 49ers believe he's truly elite sure pay him. But if he's bottom end of the top 10 or top 15 now you're climbing uphill competing against teams with the elite QBs by giving the QB such a huge chunk of the cap space without the same level of production. As that contract kicks in he'll have to be able to carry a team with much lesser weapons on offense or a weak D.
The rebuild will have to come regardless of Purdy's contract though. We've been in "win now mode" for the past 5 seasons, and next year will be the last one of that (failed) push.

So, from 2026 on, neither Brock nor any other QB is gonna have the same weapons we've had from 2019 to 2023 because our playmakers will be too old to produce on an All Pro level, so they will need to be replaced.

You then add to that the big holes this team has had but were able to overcome off the strength of those playmakers, specially the OL, and you have a 2-3 year project regardless.

So at the end of the day the question is if the Niners want Purdy to lead the rebuild and hope he continues to improve to make others around him better. Or discard him after the 2025 season and try their luck with rookie QBs -which in today's NFL is very hard to get one worth a fukk, getting Brock to click with this scheme and players was a miracle in itself- and spend on the OL and other positions like they did in 2019-2023.

Now, we also gotta take into account that Jimmy G got a dumb contract (I remember he was the highest paid QB for a while, lol) from us at the time, because management decided to keep building with him as the starter. So, as @King Kreole has stated, overpaying Purdy does not automatically mean he'll get no help and no more playmakers to make this scheme work.

It's gonna be a challenge either way because we've seen this team not be good even with all its weapons when they don't have a suitable QB for Shanahan's particular needs. With Brock, the team knows he can produce much better than a Jimmy G (in the regular season and playoffs the numbers between them are very telling if you are smart enough to not just focus on W-L) so it's almost a given they will cave in, give him waay too much money and figure out how to "cheat" the cap to still get high level players around him.

Still, the 2026 season will probably be a really bad one so who knows if even Shanahan stays after it :russ: how the Niners do the year before, in 2025, will probably shape the franchise for the next 5 years tbh.
 

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The rebuild will have to come regardless of Purdy's contract though. We've been in "win now mode" for the past 5 seasons, and next year will be the last one of that (failed) push.

So, from 2026 on, neither Brock nor any other QB is gonna have the same weapons we've had from 2019 to 2023 because our playmakers will be too old to produce on an All Pro level, so they will need to be replaced.

You then add to that the big holes this team has had but were able to overcome off the strength of those playmakers, specially the OL, and you have a 2-3 year project regardless.

So at the end of the day the question is if the Niners want Purdy to lead the rebuild and hope he continues to improve to make others around him better. Or discard him after the 2025 season and try their luck with rookie QBs -which in today's NFL is very hard to get one worth a fukk, getting Brock to click with this scheme and players was a miracle in itself- and spend on the OL and other positions like they did in 2019-2023.

Now, we also gotta take into account that Jimmy G got a dumb contract (I remember he was the highest paid QB for a while, lol) from us at the time, because management decided to keep building with him as the starter. So, as @King Kreole has stated, overpaying Purdy does not automatically mean he'll get no help and no more playmakers to make this scheme work.

It's gonna be a challenge either way because we've seen this team not be good even with all its weapons when they don't have a suitable QB for Shanahan's particular needs. With Brock, the team knows he can produce much better than a Jimmy G (in the regular season and playoffs the numbers between them are very telling if you are smart enough to not just focus on W-L) so it's almost a given they will cave in, give him waay too much money and figure out how to "cheat" the cap to still get high level players around him.

Still, the 2026 season will probably be a really bad one so who knows if even Shanahan stays after it :russ: how the Niners do the year before, in 2025, will probably shape the franchise for the next 5 years tbh.
To your points, if Purdy gets 50 million dollars that's 2-3 high end players you could pay to build depth on the team. The reason the team is able to have so many weapons now is because they are paying Purdy peanuts. The Eagles were used as an example but the main reason they are rolling right now is due to hitting homeruns on a few of their draft picks. If they didn't hit on those corners or on Jalen Carter and some of the other guys they would be the Bengals right now unable to win games because of a garbage defense. 49ers don't have the young talent on rookie contracts like that.

If I'm the 49ers I'm going full rebuild before paying Purdy. I'd try to see what I could get on the trade market and see if a team will give up a first or multiple picks for him. I'd come off CMC now and see his value as well as some of the other vets. We've seen teams turn it around in 2-3 years following that formula. We've also seen aging teams hold on for a year or two too long to the point their vets no longer have any value and the rebuild is much slower.
 

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You literally judging Love off potentials with that comment.

The last 2 comments was just a complete lies

Case in point, 2 years go the conference championship against Philly. The Niners literally had ALL their talent except Purdy who got injured early. From there that TALENT didn’t win that game and the offense could barely get past the 50 yard line or even make a first down.

Next, you named 3 QBs out of atleast 8 that’s played for us, had that same talent and couldn’t win games (those QBs mind you are the reason Kap, Jimmy, and now Purdy even got the opportunity to play, so no you can just plug ANY QB into this offense and Niners are good)

Finally, you a gotdamn lie about Kap. I know you probably trynna keep those games from your Memory but Kap of all the guys named was a fukking Monster against y’all. He practically singlehandly crushed yall.
I think something is in the water in SF that has yall losing your damn mind....my intial post was that the Niners should sign a cap friendly deal like they did with Love so they dont break the bank. Yall took that comment and ran it some other direction :dead:
 

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To your points, if Purdy gets 50 million dollars that's 2-3 high end players you could pay to build depth on the team. The reason the team is able to have so many weapons now is because they are paying Purdy peanuts. The Eagles were used as an example but the main reason they are rolling right now is due to hitting homeruns on a few of their draft picks. If they didn't hit on those corners or on Jalen Carter and some of the other guys they would be the Bengals right now unable to win games because of a garbage defense. 49ers don't have the young talent on rookie contracts like that.

If I'm the 49ers I'm going full rebuild before paying Purdy. I'd try to see what I could get on the trade market and see if a team will give up a first or multiple picks for him. I'd come off CMC now and see his value as well as some of the other vets. We've seen teams turn it around in 2-3 years following that formula. We've also seen aging teams hold on for a year or two too long to the point their vets no longer have any value and the rebuild is much slower.

San Francisco does their contracts all the same way. Paying Purdy is somewhat immaterial because we were going to have to take a youth movement at some of the skill positions anyway. Weirdly enough paying a bunch of divas is antithetical to the Niner way anyway. Like essentially Purdy's money is more or less baked into the cap so in actuality it doesn't effect the teams future the way some of you would think.
 

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You absolutely can. The way I look at it is that if you pay Purdy the max you need him playing at elite top 5 level or else you're putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage against those QBs that are elite. If the 49ers believe he's truly elite sure pay him. But if he's bottom end of the top 10 or top 15 now you're climbing uphill competing against teams with the elite QBs by giving the QB such a huge chunk of the cap space without the same level of production. As that contract kicks in he'll have to be able to carry a team with much lesser weapons on offense or a weak D.

So then let me ask you this question, what happens when he is playing at an elite level but the guys around him that supposed to be Avengers and All Pro’s are playing at sub par level?

Also who are these elite QBs and how many of them not named Mahomes been to SB or been more consistent the last 3 years?

Cuz the previous 2 years Purdy has played at an elite level but yall dismissed it, then the moment there’s a down year to factors that are not even his fault, now it’s “don’t pay him we can‘t trust him. Look at guys like Josh Allen, that’s elite”

Mind you it took 7 years for JA to be this elite guy (and he still hasn’t been as far as Purdy had been in 7yrs) has had talent and but folks is fine with his 18 Int in a season of 14 fumbles cuz he can go 1-1 in the playoffs? Lol
 

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To your points, if Purdy gets 50 million dollars that's 2-3 high end players you could pay to build depth on the team. The reason the team is able to have so many weapons now is because they are paying Purdy peanuts. The Eagles were used as an example but the main reason they are rolling right now is due to hitting homeruns on a few of their draft picks. If they didn't hit on those corners or on Jalen Carter and some of the other guys they would be the Bengals right now unable to win games because of a garbage defense. 49ers don't have the young talent on rookie contracts like that.

If I'm the 49ers I'm going full rebuild before paying Purdy. I'd try to see what I could get on the trade market and see if a team will give up a first or multiple picks for him. I'd come off CMC now and see his value as well as some of the other vets. We've seen teams turn it around in 2-3 years following that formula. We've also seen aging teams hold on for a year or two too long to the point their vets no longer have any value and the rebuild is much slower.
My point is that hitting draft picks will be a necessity with or without Brock's overinflated contract. Yes, if you move on from him you will have enough money to pay a star DE to play opposite to Bosa and another playmaker in either side of the ball. But the OL, which is this team's biggest need right now, will have to built via draft no matter what. Good RTs than can excel in Kyle's offense aren't hitting the market (same as the LT that will have to replace Trent, there aren't other Trent Williams available via trade or FA, we hit jackpot with him). And a C will have to come as a cheap veteran while we develop a younger guy, same as the LG position. That's gonna take 2-3 years no matter what.

I mentioned Jimmy G's contract because that shyt was high as hell at the time and the team found ways to work around it. The truth is, Brock's huge contract wont be as huge by the time 2027 comes around and the team will try to find way to work around it too, we'll see if they are capable of it.

The main thing is though, I don't see any path that wont come with a lot of Ls in 2026 and probably 2027 as well. So, would I rather have Brock in those teams and hopefully have another strong core by 2028, or do I roll the dice and see if we find another good QB in the meantime? There is no right answer tbh, but I've come to terms that Brock will be chosen either way so I better get used to people bringing up his huge salary in the coming years :heh:
 

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I think something is in the water in SF that has yall losing your damn mind....my intial post was that the Niners should sign a cap friendly deal like they did with Love so they dont break the bank. Yall took that comment and ran it some other direction :dead:

na buddy I don’t know bout your “initial comment” but I address the things you brought up and cleaned up the Cap.

yall the ones overthinking and overreacting. The Niners will pay Brock but he not gonna get a crazy $500M deal.

At the same time we can’t expect to ask him or think they gonna give him a deal that like $25M for 10 years (no not 25 a year but total). Some NBA Magic Johnson deal from 1984
 
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