BREAKING: Charlie Kirk shot dead by a sniper at event in Utah. Suspect caught, right wing weirdo

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That’s how you know it’s legit. It doesn’t benefit either side. The smoking gun that Conservatives were praying for ain’t in those messages. Everyone was waiting for some great manifesto of his political agenda, and all we got was some memes and a dude trying to compartmentalize what he’s done in shytposting format.
 
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Again, I ask who exactly does it benefit fabricating this story?

There are two possiblities here (well, three, but the alternative to the two probable outcomes is far-fetched):

- The first of which, this exchange is legit and happened exactly as it occured between Tyler Robinson and roommate (with all the aforementioned details)
- The second of which, this exchange isn't legit and everyone involved in this operation conspired to make up this exchange (with no damning details in regards to Tyler's political motivation).

You've got to ask yourself, what is the more likely scenario using Occam's razor?

To me, if you're going to fabricate something on this scale, it's got to be worth it. It's got to have a driving purpose and this exchange lacks that, particularly when the Right have threatened civil war as avengement. There's nothing in that conversation that leads us to believe Tyler has been radicalized with some political aim that Conservatives can use to stoke their fires. There's nothing. Just a Gen Z kid who suffers from being terminally online, whose motivation was and I quote - "I had enough of his [Charlie Kirk's] hatred".

To me the exchange is a lot more believeable than believing the FBI created a story that's essentially futile. What exactly are the fruits that this story will bear? What's the point of even releasing this exchange if you're creating a narrative when nobody from either side is left with answers to their questions.

If the exchange read something like this -

Roommate: Why did you do it?
Robinson: I did it because I've had enough of liberals standing on the sidelines while Conservatives control the narrative. It's about time we hit back. I did this for LGBTQ; I did this for Black people; I did this for all the minorities. We will rise again!


You see how this actually has some political objective that would be fodder for Trump's administration? This is something that would be worth fabricating if you were going to do it. No lol'ing about the meme engravings and talking about how your grandpa's gun did the job just fine. Why risk getting exposed of making up a story that doesn't really reveal anything, politically?
 

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Again, I ask who exactly does it benefit fabricating this story?

There are two possiblities here (well, three, but the alternative to the two probable outcomes is far-fetched):

- The first of which, this exchange is legit and happened exactly as it occured between Tyler Robinson and roommate (with all the aforementioned details)
- The second of which, this exchange isn't legit and everyone involved in this operation conspired to make up this exchange (with no damning details in regards to Tyler's political motivation).

You've got to ask yourself, what is the more likely scenario using Occam's razor?

To me, if you're going to fabricate something on this scale, it's got to be worth it. It's got to have a driving purpose and this exchange lacks that, particularly when the Right have threatened civil war as avengement. There's nothing in that conversation that leads us to believe Tyler has been radicalized with some political aim that Conservatives can use to stoke their fires. There's nothing. Just a Gen Z kid who suffers from being terminally online, whose motivation was and I quote - "I had enough of his [Charlie Kirk's] hatred".

To me the exchange is a lot more believeable than believing the FBI created a story that is essentially is futile. What's the point of even releasing this exchange if you're creating a narrative when nobody from either side is left with answers to their questions.

If the exchange read something like this -

Roommate: Why did you do it?
Robinson: I did it because I've had enough of liberals standing on the sidelines while Conservatives control the narrative. It's about time we hit back. I did this for LGBTQ; I did this for Black people; I did this for all the minorities. We will rise again!


You see how this actually has some political objective that would be fodder for Trump's administration? This is something that would be worth fabricating if you were going to do it. No lol'ing about the meme engravings and talking about how your grandpa's gun did the job just fine. Why risk getting exposed of making up a story that doesn't really reveal anything, politically?
The mistake I think you’re making is the assumption that the FBI is being ran by rational actors and/or they are operating independently of the irrational actors in the White House. The truth is there is a decent chance it’s made up because these people are all morons.
 

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I think MAGA go full Joker 2 court scene and overtake the police and hang this guy in broad daylight when he's on the way to one of his court cases.

That's why the government releasing so much information about this case to dog whistle the MAGAs that he deserves it
 
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The mistake I think you’re making is the assumption that the FBI is being ran by rational actors and/or they are operating independently of the irrational actors in the White House. The truth is there is a decent chance it’s made up because these people are all morons.
As moronic as they are, they'd still make up a story that benefited them. This story doesn't do that; it leaves us with more questions than answers. We know through their usage of AI and their perpetual pathological lying, that they're willing to make up shyt at the drop of a dime if they can weaponize it. They never let an opportunity go by without doing so.

This would be entirely out of character to make up something for no gain, especially over something of this magnitude. MAGA were praying the release of these messages would be what they'd need to crash out (they were practically speaking it into existence), but there's nothing in this exchange for them to sink their political teeth into.

The main reason we are all skeptical of this being legitimate is because of the language used and details revealed. Nobody is skeptical because it sounds like some Right-wing propoganda.

There is, however, another alternative, and that is the exchange was made up and planted by Tyler, himself, used to distract law enforcement from his actual objective, but I'd say that is a bit too implausible.
 
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Another thing too that I mentioned a few posts ago - he refers to his roommate as 'his love'. Why would they falsify a story only to have Tyler refer to his roommate as his love? All these people came together to create a story and the term of endearment they came up with for a 22-year-old to use in this exchange was "love".

It's my theory he refers to Roommate as his love purely because of the irony of it. Regardless of them being in an actual relationship or not, it's a joke.

Just like all the memes he transcribed all over the bullets. It's all ironic humor. He's an unserious person. He's treated this unseriously every single step of the way.
 

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The mistake I think you’re making is the assumption that the FBI is being ran by rational actors and/or they are operating independently of the irrational actors in the White House. The truth is there is a decent chance it’s made up because these people are all morons.

Exactly. The idiots being propped up by daddy Trump are scared shytless of being kicked out the cult if they fumble this so they're scrambling to appease him. If it means Chat GPTing a "Hello Fellow Youth..." defacto confession-with-all-pertinent-info-included text exchange to close this shyt quick as possible, they'll do so.

And it's completely independent of the guy doing it or the 8,374 other conspiracies the internets made up since lunch, it's just people who are bad at what they do continuing to be completely awful at what they do.

"I know Kash said they had the shooter twice before and I'll specifically cite each instance, but it was really 100% only me the whole entire time! No reasonable doubt to be had there potential jur- I mean roommate!"

"Remember all those nights you saw me engrave bullets and thought nothing of it? I was putting really high-larious meme jokes from the interwebs on there! Here's one from their press rele- I mean, wouldn't it be the bees knees if they quoted this on the news?"

Another thing too that I mentioned a few posts ago - he refers to his roommate as 'his love'. Why would they falsify a story only to have Tyler refer to his roommate as his love? All these people came together to create a story and the term of endearment they came up with for a 22-year-old to use in this exchange was "love".

Most likely because they thought using any kind of term of endearment that could be interpreted in any way gendered would be a red flag b/c they wouldn't know if they were misusing it so they went generic as possible.

But no one really knows enough to try and piece together why anyone'd make these texts that read fake as hell- shyt just reads fake as hell and the fact that people who disagree on everything right now are agreeing on that is hilarious.
 
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Most likely because they thought using any kind of term of endearment that could be interpreted in any way gendered would be a red flag b/c they wouldn't know if they were misusing it so they went generic as possible.
I mean, that is entirely plausible, but they could've easily changed it to "I love you" with different phrasing which would make it sound more legitimate than "my love". I wouldn't even say it's generic - it's old fashioned. I have a hard time believing however many people it took to conspire on this thought "my love" was the best way to go about this. This would've been vetted by numerous people to get it right and somehow they all thought "my love" sufficed.

It's certainly plausible they wanted to find something to use that was gender-appropriate, but not plausible they landed on "my love".

It doesn't add up with the rest of the verbiage used, particularly over the memes.
 
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Let’s also not forget this moronic maga FBI won’t be forever. If and when another administration comes along and gets to finding out shyt was made up…People would go to prison. Either way, it’s still and will always be fukk Charlie Kirk.
 

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The government / Trump administration called the HBCU threats a hoax.

According to the Trump administration is discriminatory to fund HBCU’s.

Every institution and person who doesn’t bow down to Charlie Kirk, is being defunded.

And he has cut off fundings from several Universities and Colleges.


This is starting to shape into fascism.




ChatGPT, prompt History of the Gestapo free speech:

“The Gestapo and free speech were fundamentally incompatible. From its founding in 1933, the Gestapo’s primary function was to suppress any form of political dissent or criticism of the Nazi regime.

Here’s how it related to free expression:
  • No legal protection: In Weimar Germany, before Hitler, free speech was constitutionally guaranteed. Under the Nazis, these rights were stripped almost immediately. The Gestapo could arrest anyone for statements considered hostile to the state—whether spoken, written, or even rumored.
  • Censorship and surveillance: Newspapers, books, films, theater, and radio were tightly controlled. Writers, journalists, and artists who spoke out risked arrest or exile. The Gestapo worked alongside Joseph Goebbels’ Ministry of Propaganda to enforce conformity.
  • Denunciations: Ordinary citizens often reported neighbors or coworkers for “defeatist talk,” jokes about Hitler, or critical comments. The Gestapo relied heavily on this system, which created a culture of fear and self-censorship.
  • Criminalizing dissent: Even small acts—listening to foreign radio, telling anti-Nazi jokes, distributing banned leaflets—could lead to imprisonment or being sent to a concentration camp.
  • Total control of speech: The only “freedom” of speech permitted was loyal praise of Hitler and the Nazi state. Any alternative opinion was treated as subversive.
⚖️ After 1945, the Gestapo became a key historical example of what happens when a state eliminates free speech protections: surveillance, fear, and repression replace open discussion and criticism.”
 
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